WMV Muxer/Encoder Version 1.0 - Final Release (28-Jul-2007)

[tchaikovsky]

Hi, Olivier

Sorry for WMEA did not work for you. I posted my test note about evo files encoding on WMEA's blog after replyed your mail. I wrote a little test note(I'm not sure which word it better) and linked a longer WMVHD clip (longer than the mail that replayed to you) in that post.

I have no Vista to do the test for you, so, I think it might help...

[olivierdb]

Hi Moz,

You posted 2 methods on the WMEA blog:

First is more complex, WinDVD8, EVODemux, GraphEdit, Avisynth2.57 and WMEA is needed.
1. Demux EVO to mpv & mpa
2. Using GraphEdit make two filter graphs, write 2 Avisynth script.
3. Make sure WMP can play your 2 avs files, then load separate video & audio avs to WMEA, start encoding job.

Second is easier, WinDVD8, EVODemux, Elecard MPEG-2 Decode Pack 3.0, AC3filter1.11 and WMEA is needed.
1. Demux EVO to mpv & mpa
2. Make sure your mpv & mpa can be played by WMP correctly, then load mpv & mpa to WMEA, start encoding job.

However, neither of them work at present! ... at least, not under Vista!

In the first case, there is an issue with WMEA accepting seperate video and audio AVS and WMEA ends up "Not Responding".

In the second case, (where I don't see why you would need WinDVD8) only the audio is converted. The video is totally neglected! I also tried playing back a VC-1 file in WMP 11 after having installed the Elecard MPEG-2 Video Decoder, but it doesn't play! I even tried the Elecard AVC plug-in for WMP, but that didn't work either!

I've also been wondering, do all HD-DVD EVO files contain all 3 following formats or just ONE of the 3: MPEG-2 HD, VC-1, and H.264/AVC ?

[tchaikovsky]

I know your EVO is VC1/DTS, that test note is a demo for EVO encoding, not a guide, so, I think it might help, but... It seems totally useless for you. Throw it away...

I'd like to do some tests if you give me a link that can download your EVO clip

[olivierdb]

Moz, The clip is >8GB total! I have extracted the first few minutes into a clip of 250MB. Please find here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/thsg41

P.S. I recommend you start downloading just before going out for lunch or something!

[DarkNite]

Originally Posted by olivierdb

I've also been wondering, do all HD-DVD EVO files contain all 3 following formats or just ONE of the 3: MPEG-2 HD, VC-1, and H.264/AVC ?

One. Including all 3 would take ~3 times the space, and would be completely unnecessary.

[tchaikovsky]

Originally Posted by olivierdb

Moz, The clip is >8GB total! I have extracted the first few minutes into a clip of 250MB. Please find here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/thsg41

P.S. I recommend you start downloading just before going out for lunch or something!

...I can't access that server directly, It will be very slow if I access that server via a proxy, would you please upload that clip to mydatabus? Thanks in advance !

[jubilex]

Originally Posted by olivierdb

I used the following script:
cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Windows Media Components\Encoder\wmcmd.vbs" -input "C:\Path to my AVS file\sourcefilename.avs" -output "C:\test.wmv" -v_codec WMV9 -v_mode 2 -v_bitrate 6000000 -v_keydist 30 -v_buffer 10000 -v_quality 100 -v_preproc 1

I don't know about the errors, but v_mode 2 is constant quality one-pass, so the bitrate parameter would be ignored -- the v_quality is used instead, and since you have that set as 100, the file will be huge (but nice looking!). For HD CQ, I use quality of 95 or 96. You only use the bitrate parameter if you are doing cbr or vbr (v_modes 0, 3, and 4).

[jubilex]

By the way, my typical parameters for a 5.1 sound CQ encode are:

-v_bframedist 1 -v_bdeltaqp 1 -v_mslevel 1 -v_codec wvc1 -v_keydist 3 -v_mode 2 -v_quality 96 -v_mmatch 0 -v_msrange 0 -v_performance 20 -v_loopfilter 1 -a_codec wmapro -a_setting 384_48_6_24

[olivierdb]

@DarkNite: Thank you for your answer. I guess VC-1 is the prefered format.

@jubilex: Thanks for your feedback. I'll make some tests with your parameters.

@tchaikovsky: Here is the link. I don't think it's any faster than sendspace because it took me another 2 hours to upload!
part0001.evo

[olivierdb]

@jubilex: A big thank you: your parameters produced awesome results! I just had to change the audio settings to: -a_setting 192_44_2_24 because I got an error!

Maybe I didn't have to change the bit rate, but I think InterVideo Audio Decoder only produces 2 channels output?

[olivierdb]

When encoding to WMA Pro using WMCmd.vbs, does any one know which version of WMA Pro is being used? Is it version 9 or v10?

Thanks.

[buzzqw]

runnign cscript wmcmd.vbs -a_formats and wmcmd.vbs -a_codecs you will have the answer

anyway...

Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Versione 5.6
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1996-2001. Tutti i diritti riservati.


Audio Codecs: 
CBR Audio Mode :
	[0] WMASTD : Windows Media Audio 9.1
	[1] WMSP : Windows Media Audio 9 Voice
	[2] WMAPRO : Windows Media Audio 9.1 Professional
	[3] PCM : Nessuno (PCM)


Peak Bit Rate-Based VBR Audio Mode :
	[0] WMASTD : Windows Media Audio 9.1
	[1] WMAPRO : Windows Media Audio 9.1 Professional


Quality-Based VBR Audio Mode :
	[0] WMASTD : Windows Media Audio 9.1
	[1] WMAPRO : Windows Media Audio 9.1 Professional
	[2] WMALSL : Windows Media Audio 9.1 Lossless


Bit Rate-Based VBR Audio Mode :
	[0] WMASTD : Windows Media Audio 9.1
	[1] WMAPRO : Windows Media Audio 9.1 Professional

BHH

[olivierdb]

Grazie mille, buzzqw.

Just FYI - you don't have the latest version (v5.7 supports WMA Pro 10).

[zambelli]

Originally Posted by olivierdb

Grazie mille, buzzqw.
Just FYI - you don't have the latest version (v5.7 supports WMA Pro 10).

5.7 is the version of Windows Script Host.

Buzzqw has WMF SDK 9.5 (WMP10) installed, while you are probably running Vista. That's where the codec difference comes from.

Wmcmd.vbs is version-agnostic as far as WMA Standard and Pro are concerned. It'll use whatever is on the system.

[buzzqw]

yep... i am now working on win2003 server so no wmp11... iirc...

BHH

[zambelli]

Originally Posted by buzzqw

yep... i am now working on win2003 server so no wmp11... iirc...

I'm not endorsing it, but a few people have figured out ways to install WMP11 on W2K3:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...st&p=588446611
The post I linked sounds the easiest and without unnecessary .INF editing and whatnot.

I haven't tested it myself... So if you decide to try it, proceed cautiously.

[olivierdb]

Good morning Zambelli!

I've got people getting errors with wmcmd.vbs and I don't understand the meaning of the errors they are getting!

Would you be able to help. The post is here.

Thank you. You're the expert!

[zambelli]

Originally Posted by zambelli

I'm not endorsing it, but a few people have figured out ways to install WMP11 on W2K3:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...st&p=588446611
The post I linked sounds the easiest and without unnecessary .INF editing and whatnot.

I haven't tested it myself... So if you decide to try it, proceed cautiously.

I tried this today and I can confirm that it works. Once again - I want to stress that this is completely unsupported by Microsoft - but if you really need to get v11 codecs on a Server 2003 system, here's how you can do it:

1. Install Service Pack 2 for Server 2003. If that's not an option, change the registry value HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Windows\CSDVersion from 100 to 200, then follow the remaining instructions, and after install change back to 100.

2. Copy wmfdist11.exe to a local drive. You can extract it from a WMP installer (wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe) with WinZip/WinRAR, get it from the full WM Format 11 SDK, or just search the Internet for a download location.

3. Right click on wmfdist11.exe, pull up its properties. Under the “Compatibility” tab, select “Run this program in compatibility mode for” and set it to “Windows XP”.

4. Run wmfdist11.exe. WM Format 11 runtime installs.

5. Change "CSDVersion" back to 100 if you changed it in the first step.

That's all. If you want WMP too, follow the same steps for wmp11.exe, though it's not necessary to install the player if you just want the codecs.

[shaolin95]

OK guys, for a noob here. :-)
I got an avi file encoded from a vc-1 using VirtualDub and want to mux it (combine it) with a wma audio from the same movie.
I thought it was a matter of loading both in this app but somehow I started to get two separte files istead of a combined one.

Any help appreciated. :-)

[shaolin95]

Originally Posted by crypto

You should put video and audio into one avs and use the audiodub (video, audio) command.

You can also encode video and audio seperately and mux wmv and wma using the Windows Media Stream Editor from the WME9 package.

BTW, I tried the media editor and it told me it can only do one type of file....