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Old 19th August 2009, 09:13   #4681  |  Link
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I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make with this long post????

Yes it is normal for the output to be converted from "i" to "p" -- if you look at the AVS file you'll see the conversion.

Yes it is normal for the first pass to output to NUL -- it saves time, and all that is really need for pass two is the stats info.

Just as a test, try opening VID_00172.AVS with the media player and see what is displayed. It may be that the AVISYNTH filters aren't working correctly.
1. I'm trying to understand why only running 64-bit seems to fail. In doing so I'm noting the differences between BD-RB builds, the commands it's submitting to x264 and the differences in the the video content being processed.


2. K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS is < 1kb in size and WMP12 does not recognize the file and is unable to play it.

Directory of K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES

8/18/2009 05:47 PM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 266 AUD_00172.meta
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 258,048 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree.temp
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 4,096 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.temp


3. The original video content VID_00074 is 1080p and BD-RB v0.28.03 processes just fine where VID_00172 is 1080i and fails. I was wondering if there was any special way the "interlaced" content is required to be processed using a 64-bit platform. Noted in my previous post I've tested setting both VC-1 (disabled and wmv9) but the results are the same. The same exact job running XP SP3 32-bit works perfectly with ffdshow's default settings.

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Old 19th August 2009, 13:48   #4682  |  Link
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1. I'm trying to understand why only running 64-bit seems to fail. In doing so I'm noting the differences between BD-RB builds, the commands it's submitting to x264 and the differences in the the video content being processed.


2. K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES\VID_00172.AVS is < 1kb in size and WMP12 does not recognize the file and is unable to play it.

Directory of K:\Bd25 4\Valkyrie (2008)\BD-RBV02803_64\WORKFILES

8/18/2009 05:47 PM 15,349,376 00172.track_4352.ac3
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 266 AUD_00172.meta
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 262 AUD_00172_4352.AVS
8/18/2009 05:47 PM 309 VID_00172.AVS
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 258,048 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.mbtree.temp
8/18/2009 06:33 PM 4,096 VID_00172.AVS.MKV.stats.temp


3. The original video content VID_00074 is 1080p and BD-RB v0.28.03 processes just fine where VID_00172 is 1080i and fails. I was wondering if there was any special way the "interlaced" content is required to be processed using a 64-bit platform. Noted in my previous post I've tested setting both VC-1 (disabled and wmv9) but the results are the same. The same exact job running XP SP3 32-bit works perfectly with ffdshow's default settings.
64 bit version of Windows 7 shouldn't cause a problem. I use it with no problems at all.

Looks just like a codec issue to me. You do realise that getting ffdshow or any "seperate" codec to work where Windows 7 already has one is a pain in the backside?

Look back in my post history, about 4-8 posts ago I linked to a post containing a guide someone had made to get BDRB to use ffdshow codecs and TMT2 codec for VC1 (since this is one of the only ways to decode 1080i hybrid video)

There is no "free" software that can decode those hybrid interlaced VC1 material to my knowledge.

EDIT - Just seen that the VC1 decoding isn't the problem...but the first part of my post is relevent still as it will allow you to use ffdshow decorder as maybe Windows 7 decoder can't handle that interlaced stream.

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Old 19th August 2009, 15:48   #4683  |  Link
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64 bit version of Windows 7 shouldn't cause a problem. I use it with no problems at all.

Looks just like a codec issue to me. You do realise that getting ffdshow or any "seperate" codec to work where Windows 7 already has one is a pain in the backside?

Look back in my post history, about 4-8 posts ago I linked to a post containing a guide someone had made to get BDRB to use ffdshow codecs and TMT2 codec for VC1 (since this is one of the only ways to decode 1080i hybrid video)

There is no "free" software that can decode those hybrid interlaced VC1 material to my knowledge.

EDIT - Just seen that the VC1 decoding isn't the problem...but the first part of my post is relevent still as it will allow you to use ffdshow decorder as maybe Windows 7 decoder can't handle that interlaced stream.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions...

To my recollection the TMT2 workaround supports 32-bit only, but I could be mistaken.

If BD-RB v0.27.01 or later fails on a Windows 64-bit architecture using Encode Settings: HIGHEST or HIGH QUALITY, the easy solution to:
A) Use BD-RB v0.26.03
B) Use BD-RB v0.28.03 or later on a 32-bit machine if one has access.

Note in general (not directed toward you):
I think it would be a good idea to start a Known Problems & Solutions document that is released with BD-RB noting potential issues and/or suggested solutions one my try as well as which OS and bit depth they are for. I find there is quite a bit of information captured in this forum but it would be nice to see it captured in one document. I know this might entail additional work for someone, or some volunteers but the benefit should out weigh the work then can easily be maintained going forward.

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Old 19th August 2009, 15:59   #4684  |  Link
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Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit ships with WMP12, I'm not yet been able to find out which decoder it uses. I'm unclear if one must install WMP9 or WMP11 when attempting to use ffdshow or it has its own codec for wmv9 contained within it's installation.

The odd part is that ffdshow "ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe" referenced on page one of this forum hasn't changed. BD-RB v0.26.03 and prior releases complete successfully Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit. It's only the releases after that that fail. I'm unable to determine, since I'm unable to capture the commands BD-RB submits to 3rd party software, if the problem lies in a newer 3rd party software packaged with BD-RB or the new command syntax or extracted files on the BD-RB side that may cause the 3rd party software to fail for some reason. If there was a way to capture BD-RB's commands submitted to 3rd party software I could test this independently to definitively know where the problem is.

I wish there was a debug mode/option that would output and retain all information, this would be very useful.

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Old 19th August 2009, 18:20   #4685  |  Link
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Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit ships with WMP12, I'm not yet been able to find out which decoder it uses. I'm unclear if one must install WMP9 or WMP11 when attempting to use ffdshow or it has its own codec for wmv9 contained within it's installation.

The odd part is that ffdshow "ffdshow_rev2661_20090207_clsid.exe" referenced on page one of this forum hasn't changed. BD-RB v0.26.03 and prior releases complete successfully Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit. It's only the releases after that that fail. I'm unable to determine, since I'm unable to capture the commands BD-RB submits to 3rd party software, if the problem lies in a newer 3rd party software packaged with BD-RB or the new command syntax or extracted files on the BD-RB side that may cause the 3rd party software to fail for some reason. If there was a way to capture BD-RB's commands submitted to 3rd party software I could test this independently to definitively know where the problem is.

I wish there was a debug mode/option that would output and retain all information, this would be very useful.
Windows 7 x64 works just fine with the TMT2 decoding dll files that are needed for decoding via directshow as BDRB does. It's just the actual TMT2 player that doesn't work
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Old 19th August 2009, 18:44   #4686  |  Link
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Actually BD rebuilder already manages to convert VC-1 1080i as I've used it to convert all my Torchwood and Dr Who which uses field based 1080i VC-1, it just has a problem on Dual Xeoon i7 with hyperthreading turned on, works fine with hyper threading off or on a standard single i7 system
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Old 19th August 2009, 21:16   #4687  |  Link
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I can also confirm BD-RBV02803 had no trouble with field based VC-1 interlaced files, as a full movie backup to BD-25 of the movie 300 worked perfectly. There were six **.m2ts files on this disc, all processed with no trouble on my I7 920, XP Pro, 32bit.
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Old 20th August 2009, 00:39   #4688  |  Link
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I can also confirm BD-RBV02803 had no trouble with field based VC-1 interlaced files, as a full movie backup to BD-25 of the movie 300 worked perfectly. There were six **.m2ts files on this disc, all processed with no trouble on my I7 920, XP Pro, 32bit.
i had no problems doing 300 several weeks ago with previous betas
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Old 20th August 2009, 05:21   #4689  |  Link
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Um, I just downloaded the newest beta, 28.0.3. I extracted it and went to run it and i get the message "this beta has expired". I made sure that I was running the correct exe version, in fact when I drag the message out of the way, it says 28.0.3. What could be causing this?

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sorry - I mean v0.28.03

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Old 20th August 2009, 05:43   #4690  |  Link
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The one on the first page doesn't expire for over a a month from now... and it's running right now on my system. I think you're mistaken. Are you sure you're pointing to that version?

If the file has been modified/hacked in any way it might also cause that message. I'd suggest you do a virus scan on your system and then download again.
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His shortcut is probably aimed at an older version. I've done that several times.
Here's a couple suggestions, just a few pages back.
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Here's a couple suggestions, just a few pages back.
Thanks, I am doing a full scan but I do not believe this is the case - I had JUST downloaded it, extracted it and used it. And I did not create a shortcut, I am trying to open the exe file by double clicking on it and it definitely says v0.28.03.

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ok, this is solved - and anyone that has problems with this, you need to check your system dates. I found out my girlfriend was checking out future dates on calendar and had hit apply - effectively making the date 2 months into the future. I didn't even think to check that, but that's what it was. Category 5 had the same issue. Sorry this even came up.

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Old 20th August 2009, 20:17   #4693  |  Link
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Um, I just downloaded the newest beta, 28.0.3. I extracted it and went to run it and i get the message "this beta has expired". I made sure that I was running the correct exe version, in fact when I drag the message out of the way, it says 28.0.3. What could be causing this?

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sorry - I mean v0.28.03
The only thing that can cause it is for the date on your system to be wrong -- or if the EXE has been changed in any way.

[Edit] Whoops. I see you'd already corrected it a few posts down.
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Old 21st August 2009, 00:20   #4694  |  Link
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So I tried something different and started again. I reripped the Disc (again using ANYDVD) but this time I upgraded my computer to the official release version of Windows 7. It still didn't work, but the results were different. This is what I got:
[Options]
RESIZE=0
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23450
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
COLOR_BOOST=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
CRF_ENCODING=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\12_MONKEYS\12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO\
WORKING_PATH=E:\WORK\
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[18:35:14] BD Rebuilder v0.28.03 (beta)
- Source: 12_MONKEYS_G51_GLO
- Input BD size: 39.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:37:09.816]
- Target BD size: 22.90 GB
[18:35:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:35:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
- [18:52:02] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 2)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Error in attempt to multiplex: MUX_00009.meta
- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851
[18:52:03] - Failed to build structure, aborted
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I've never gotten this error before. Could you tell me what it means?
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So after installing Acrsoft TotalMedia Theater 2 and updating it to v2.1.6.130 how does one set it as the decoder for BD-RB?

I've attempted to follow the other instructions posted but Arcsoft is not listed under 64-bit using Win7DSFilterTweaker v1.4. Some of the other links are dead.

I don't see anything in BD-RB's *.ini file either.

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Old 21st August 2009, 02:19   #4696  |  Link
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Now I can't get any copy to work! With every project I get this:

- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851

Please help!
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Old 21st August 2009, 02:32   #4697  |  Link
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I just read that you're not supporting Windows 7. While I am disappointed, I have been grateful how bieng able to use the program this long. Windows 7 aside, Is there anyway to get around this particular error?

Thank you very much for your time.
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I'll have to support it eventually... but not until it is officially released and all the bugs/incompatibilities are worked out. There's a price to pay for jumping on a bandwagon too soon.
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Old 21st August 2009, 05:30   #4699  |  Link
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I'll have to support it eventually... but not until it is officially released and all the bugs/incompatibilities are worked out. There's a price to pay for jumping on a bandwagon too soon.
Well, as I've said I've enjoyed using the program so far and I look forward to when you do support it. Thank you for your obviously hard work.

Is there anyway around this?

"- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851"

Perhaps it's not a Windows 7 problem. Any ideas?
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Well, as I've said I've enjoyed using the program so far and I look forward to when you do support it. Thank you for your obviously hard work.

Is there anyway around this?

"- This is not an EBML file (id=0/440786851"

Perhaps it's not a Windows 7 problem. Any ideas?
No, It is not problem of windows 7 it also happen in windows vista. Also i use Win 7 without any problems for about a week.
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