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Old 7th April 2008, 13:01   #941  |  Link
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For the second option, you will need to add a new option "Create AVCHD Disk". It seems that the PS3 can only recognize the BDMV File Structure from a 'AVCHD DVD' generated by an AVCHD camcorder or Nero Vision when read from a FAT32 formatted Storage Card, USB Stick or External Hard Disk Drive. For the moment I have to stick with Nero Vision 5 when I want to do something like that.
I Have create Buray with TsMuxer and burn on DVD9 with Nero.
I have a PS3 and a Panasonic BD30.

The disc is a AVCHD for both players. The Panasonic BD30 don`t acceppt Vc1 on DVD9 ( AVCHD ) PS3 can play is corect.

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Old 7th April 2008, 13:15   #942  |  Link
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I just tried to play a Blu-ray Disk multiplexed/authored with tsMuxeR GUI 1.7.2 and burned as UDF 2.50 to a DVD5 containing 1x MPEG-2/AC3 and 2x H.264/AC3 video's, but the PS3 won't start playing it

Are mixed video formats not supported?

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Old 7th April 2008, 13:32   #943  |  Link
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You can try to split output stream by size (2Gb max). May be your problem with FAT32 in large files.
I don't think that's the problem because currently I am testing with small HDV and AVCHD samples (M2TS files are not bigger than 200MB).

However, when I look at the BDMV File Structure generated by Nero Vision 5, I see that in the \BDMV\STREAM folder there are files called 00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, ... instead of M2TS files?

The BDMV File Structure is a bit different too:

\BDMV
\BDMV\BACKUP (INDEX.BDM, MOVIEOBK.BDM)
\BDMV\BACKUP\CLIPINF (00000.CPI, 00001.CPI, ...)
\BDMV\CLIPINF\PLAYLIST (00000.MPL, 00001.MPL, ...)
\BDMV\PLAYLIST (00000.MPL, 00001.MPL, ...)
\BDMV\STREAM (00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, ...)
INDEX.BDM
MOVIEOBK.BDM

To let the PS3 recognize & play this 'AVCHD DVD' BDMV File Structure directly from a FAT32 formatted Storage Card, USB Stick or Ext HDD, you need to put the complete BDMV File Structure under a root folder called 'AVCHD':

e.g. I:\AVCHD\BDMV\...

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Old 7th April 2008, 13:38   #944  |  Link
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However, when I look at the BDMV File Structure generated by Nero Vision 5, I see that in the \BDMV\STREAM folder there are files called 00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, ... instead of M2TS files?
I believe there is a bug in Nero Vision files which truncates file names to ISO standard with 8 character file names and a 3 character extension.

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Old 7th April 2008, 13:39   #945  |  Link
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I just tried to play a Blu-ray Disk multiplexed/authored with tsMuxeR GUI 1.7.2 and burned as UDF 2.50 to a DVD5 containing 1x MPEG-2/AC3 and 2x H.264/AC3 video's, but the PS3 won't start playing it
Are mixed video formats not supported?
tsMuxer can't (I hope YET ) build multi-title blu-ray/avc-hd. So how you did it? I think this is your problem.
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Old 7th April 2008, 13:51   #946  |  Link
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@roman76r, you seem to be doing a great job here!

My personal favourite container currently is Matroska. Mainly for the following two reasons:

(1) FLAC support.
(2) The ability to give audio tracks a name.

Now I'm wondering: Do you think there's a chance to extend the TS specification somehow to allow muxing of FLAC tracks (without transcoding them to something else) and giving audio tracks a name? Is there a central place where such TS format extensions are discussed and agreed upon? Of course it would be bad if every programmer invented his own way of adding new things to the TS container...
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Old 7th April 2008, 14:07   #947  |  Link
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UDF 2.5 vs UDF 2.6

What is the standard format for BD5 and BD9 disks ?
AVCHD should be on udf 2.5 ? (or 2.6 ?)
What is the difference between the two formats ?


p.s.:
No one has issues with subtitles in blu-ray outputs ?
(I get permananent subtitle on PS3 if I add a sup file in tsmuxer. (720p project) )
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Old 7th April 2008, 14:19   #948  |  Link
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Hello Roman, I posted this earlier but didn't get a response...

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Roman, I am noticing that M2TS output is still sticking slightly when seeking (FF/REW). I and some others have found that running the raw h264 through h264info and then muxing with tsMuxeR with "Add picture timing info" and "Continually insert SPS/PPS" disabled, allows the file to play with seeking working perfectly smooth.

Any ideas what is causing this?

What options are recommended to be enabled or set to create PS3 compatible media files?
Any ideas what is causing the sticking? I am lead to believe that if I disable "Continually insert SPS/PPS" this fixes the problem. Could you explain why disabling this makes the seeking smoother?

Also, how is .srt subtitle import looking? This is a feature I am really looking forward to.
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Old 7th April 2008, 14:45   #949  |  Link
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Any ideas what is causing the sticking? I am lead to believe that if I disable "Continually insert SPS/PPS" this fixes the problem.
Very strangely. May be it is a player bug.
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Old 7th April 2008, 16:26   #950  |  Link
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When I try to process blu-ray with TrueHD audio track, I noticed some differences between the output of tsremux 0.20 and tsmuxer 1.7.3.

This caused the TrueHD audio in tsremux output can be recognized by PS3, but tsmuxer output failed.

I use hex editor to dump the PMT table of the output

Here is the PMT of tsremux


And here is the PMT of tsmuxer 1.7.3

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Old 7th April 2008, 17:10   #951  |  Link
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I have a Sony AVCHD camcorder writing on Memory Stick. I can reproduce on the PS3 the AVCHD content directly on the memory stick (ac3 included)

I would be very much interested in transforming existing bluray backups (large files) into blurays with smaller files (FAT32 compatible), like fico99 describes, in order to play them in an external FAT32 hard disk.

If it helps I can send Roman a sample of the AVCHD structure used in the memory sticks (I also noticed that it uses MTS files instead of m2ts...)

Thanks for the good work

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I don't think that's the problem because currently I am testing with small HDV and AVCHD samples (M2TS files are not bigger than 200MB).

However, when I look at the BDMV File Structure generated by Nero Vision 5, I see that in the \BDMV\STREAM folder there are files called 00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, ... instead of M2TS files?

The BDMV File Structure is a bit different too:

\BDMV
\BDMV\BACKUP (INDEX.BDM, MOVIEOBK.BDM)
\BDMV\BACKUP\CLIPINF (00000.CPI, 00001.CPI, ...)
\BDMV\CLIPINF\PLAYLIST (00000.MPL, 00001.MPL, ...)
\BDMV\PLAYLIST (00000.MPL, 00001.MPL, ...)
\BDMV\STREAM (00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, ...)
INDEX.BDM
MOVIEOBK.BDM

To let the PS3 recognize & play this 'AVCHD DVD' BDMV File Structure directly from a FAT32 formatted Storage Card, USB Stick or Ext HDD, you need to put the complete BDMV File Structure under a root folder called 'AVCHD':

e.g. I:\AVCHD\BDMV\...

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Old 7th April 2008, 17:19   #952  |  Link
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If it helps I can send Roman a sample of the AVCHD structure used in the memory sticks (I also noticed that it uses MTS files instead of m2ts...)
MTS = M2TS. It's just different extension but format is the same. Canon camcorders also use MTS extension.
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When moving the content from the memory stick to the computer hard disk it creates m2ts files (using Sony provided software). I did not check if they are identical files (binary identical). It does not move to the computer the remaining AVCHD files structure.

Apparently it is possible to move back the m2ts files to the memory stick in order to play them in the camcorder. I did not check this though.


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MTS = M2TS. It's just different extension but format is the same. Canon camcorders also use MTS extension.
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Old 7th April 2008, 18:06   #954  |  Link
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No. I do not have a plan to support HD-DVD as output format.

Ok, thanks

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Old 8th April 2008, 00:59   #955  |  Link
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What is the standard format for BD5 and BD9 disks ?
AVCHD should be on udf 2.5 ? (or 2.6 ?)
What is the difference between the two formats ?


p.s.:
No one has issues with subtitles in blu-ray outputs ?
(I get permananent subtitle on PS3 if I add a sup file in tsmuxer. (720p project) )
Did you have to create the .sup file? if so, how did you output it at 720p? SUPread can currently only output at 1080p and I've been trying to find another program to convert srt subtitles to sup at 720 res.
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Old 8th April 2008, 03:46   #956  |  Link
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@roman76r, you seem to be doing a great job here!

My personal favourite container currently is Matroska. Mainly for the following two reasons:

(1) FLAC support.
(2) The ability to give audio tracks a name.

Now I'm wondering: Do you think there's a chance to extend the TS specification somehow to allow muxing of FLAC tracks (without transcoding them to something else) and giving audio tracks a name? Is there a central place where such TS format extensions are discussed and agreed upon? Of course it would be bad if every programmer invented his own way of adding new things to the TS container...
You can always use stream_type 0x6 (ITU-T Rec. H.222.0 | ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data). However, IMHO this stream_type is already overloaded since it's used for AC3 (in Europe) and DTS.

It's much better to have a unique stream_type, so that demuxers don't have to parse the audio stream to determine what it is. This is why xport doesn't work for non Blu-ray DTS.

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You can always use stream_type 0x6 (ITU-T Rec. H.222.0 | ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data). However, IMHO this stream_type is already overloaded since it's used for AC3 (in Europe) and DTS.
Oh, stream_type 0x6 can also be used for DTS? That's good to know! I currently have it hardwired to AC3 in my tool...

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It's much better to have a unique stream_type, so that demuxers don't have to parse the audio stream to determine what it is. This is why xport doesn't work for non Blu-ray DTS.
So who decides about new stream_type values for new codecs? Is there a central place where one can request assignment of new stream_types?

Thanks!
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Old 8th April 2008, 09:22   #958  |  Link
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i have a Problem at the End at 97% remuxing off an Evo to m2ts
This Problem is on this File every Time i will remux it

here the Log from the Muxer and the Microsoft Konsole

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="tsMuxeR.exe" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tsMuxeR.exe" SIZE="178688" CHECKSUM="0x6D0F9CF2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x3667F" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="04/05/2008 13:52:42" UPTO_LINK_DATE="04/05/2008 13:52:42" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="tsMuxerGUI.exe" SIZE="269824" CHECKSUM="0xD280622" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.7.4.58" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.7.4.58" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.0" FILE_DESCRIPTION="" COMPANY_NAME="" PRODUCT_NAME="" FILE_VERSION="1.7.4.58" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="" INTERNAL_NAME="" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x51C6B" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.7.4.58" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.7.4.58" LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" VER_LANGUAGE="Russisch [0x419]" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="1063424" CHECKSUM="0xD6320085" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Client-DLL für Windows NT-Basis-API" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Betriebssystem Microsoft® Windows®" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311 (xpsp.080212-0005)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. Alle Rechte vorbehalten." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x1107BE" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.3311" LINK_DATE="02/12/2008 10:24:48" UPTO_LINK_DATE="02/12/2008 10:24:48" VER_LANGUAGE="Deutsch (Deutschland) [0x407]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.7.4(b) http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding E-AC3 (DD+) stream (track 2): Bitrate: 768Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
VC-1 muxing fps not set. Get fps from stream.
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080i Frame rate: 29.97
E-AC3 (DD+) bad frame detected. Resync stream.
Decoding E-AC3 (DD+) stream (track 2): Bitrate: 768Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MS/VFW/WVC1, "E:\HD_DVD\xxx\xxx.EVO", track=85
A_AC3, "E:\HD_DVD\xxx\xxx.EVO", timeshift=-1501ms, track=192
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tsMuxer can't (I hope YET ) build multi-title blu-ray/avc-hd. So how you did it? I think this is your problem.
OK, I was also thinking that this problem was caused by the 'user' and not by the software
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Oh, stream_type 0x6 can also be used for DTS? That's good to know! I currently have it hardwired to AC3 in my tool...


So who decides about new stream_type values for new codecs? Is there a central place where one can request assignment of new stream_types?

Thanks!
Setting the stream_type to 0x6 is not enough. You need a descriptor that indicates what type of stream actually is in this PID. For example DVB AC-3 on stream_type 0x6 uses descriptor tag 0x6A (AC-3 Audio Descriptor) for identification.

There is a list of (maybe not all) descriptors here:
http://www.coolstf.com/tsreader/descriptors.html
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