satsuki decoder pack 1.0.4.8 (dual-lang)

Shinobu · 25th April 2004, 19:26

the satsuki decoder pack is a filter based A/V decoding pack.
it can decode :

+Most of mpeg4 based video (ffdshow)
+All real media (included real 10 elesyan & real AAC/AAC+ & HFE2)
+Windows media 7/8/9 (audio & video) & asf
+Mpeg2 / DVD
+On2 vp3
+On2 vp6
+All subtitles
+Mp1 / mp2 / mp3
+AC3
+ape
+ofr
+flac
+AAC/MP4
+OGG/OGM
+MPC (musepack)
+MKV
+XCD
+XVD (new format witch new a dedicated player or my pack and any player ^^)

this pack contain the last media player classic

it is 100% free and is realy very stable and don't make a mess in your codecs like ACE or NIMO codec.
my pack is filter based, it doesn't contain any encoding codec (that's au decoder pack).

this pack as a long history but a haven't any time to make a dual-language install.

this pack installer is made with NSIS 2.0.

this pack chach my website at the install to check if a newer version is online (it's not a spyware or so).

you can of course install only one of the filter if you like.

my website is in frensch only but it will probably change when i'll had some time.

http://satsuki.yatoshi.free.fr/

sorry for the long post and my very poor english.
all suggestions are welcome.

ps: the filter is only 5.5mo weight please test it ^^

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Shinobu · 26th April 2004, 06:15

No sugestion nor report ?

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Koepi · 26th April 2004, 06:21

One suggestion which you'll find on every FAQ around here:

Don't use codec packs.

jk888 · 26th April 2004, 06:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Koepi
One suggestion which you'll find on every FAQ around here:

Don't use codec packs.

I totally disagree, without codec packs average end users won't be able to playback new A/V encodes. That's why even the great Matroska team created a codec pack, so newbies who simply just want to watch a mkv can do it easily. In fact without the codec pack, newbies won't even know how to install the matroska splitter separately, it's just to complicated for them.

kilg0r3 · 26th April 2004, 07:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Shinobu
+All real media (included real 10 elesyan & real AAC/AAC+)

Which leads me to the question, is it leagal?

Sirber · 26th April 2004, 12:48

There was no complain from Real Networks yet

Shinobu · 26th April 2004, 15:14

@Koepi
i'm totaly agree with you, codec pack sux, that's why a made this DECODER pack witch only use filter and no codec, it don't mess up you codec configuration.
it also unreg copy & reg the filter it use, so it is no double reg bug possible.

it as no bug nor confict reported yet (for this version and the 1.0.3.1 at least).

i hate ace codec pack & cie because when you have installed it, you probably need to reinstall windows too ^^, my pack is not like this.

@jk888
I agree, not everyone is a video expert.
+ if you burn a cd of tests or clip made with a lot of différents codecs, put my pack on it, it take only 5.3mo and it can be use by any nooby.

@kilg0r3
after apple mail me to remove the quicktime support of my pack, i've mailed real several times (4 or 5 i thinks) and never had any answer.
so i'm waiting ...

i also think thats alernative decoding pack for real media help then to extend ther codec popularity.

the real media is FOR ME the best actual codec for anime, but i would never used it if i had to use realmediaplayer or realone.

@all
1)download my pack
2)test it
3)say here "it sux because ...." or "it is wonderfull because..." or "it will be good if you made ..."
4)del it from you hard drive or use it ^^

i make this pack with the hope to help but if you don't whant to use it, just don't use it, but at leat, test it before (you can't say a think is or or not without have tested it ^^)

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kilg0r3 · 27th April 2004, 08:04

Hi,

I think it might be great help for some users, if it is being properly mainained in the future, are you planning to do so?

r0cket · 27th April 2004, 12:59

Shinobu, if you follow this link you'll see that this site is not the place for any packs (except official as i can see). God, 4 posts by me one after the other!

DAvenger · 27th April 2004, 14:00

I wonder when you guys making all those codec packs are going to start asking for permission? While I support anyone who wants to include one of our filters in his pack I would really like to know who, when and where ( your pack includes several illegal codecs which might be a liabilty for us)

Anyway, being polite is no longer cool?

P.S Codec packs are evil, but RadLight solves all codecs problems by it's fully customizable graph building engine.

Shinobu · 27th April 2004, 15:11

@DAvenger
"...i've mailed real several times (4 or 5 i thinks) and never had any answer."
if they mail me to remove it, i'll remove it
i think i'm polite but my english is very approximative, soo if i'm not, i appolyse for it.
ps: my pack is made for the easyest use with the most stability, when you know exactly witch filter to use and how to configure it, you don't need decoder pack (my pack is NOT a codec pack , but a decoder pack, i hate codec pack). but no everyone know how to do it.
media player classic can also decode a lot of file by imself (because of a lot of build in filter) and i like it a lot more that your player (never use it) but that's MY opinion, everyone must be free to choose is player, that's why i include in my decoder pack the filters that mpc as already built in, so everyone can play his favorite vidéo with his favorite player.
if you are here to tel me "you pack is useless, just see and use my soft" i'll ansew you "i want to be free to chose my player !"

@kilg0r3
of course i'm planing to update it as often as possible (it'a already 1.0.3.2 and i've started with version 1.0.0.0)
but for some of the filter (ffdshow for exemple) i may use a older version because of stability.

@rocket
Yes i know.
the main problem is that most of the "video boss" have tester only one or 2 codecs pack, and it probably was ACE or nimo or other like them. (and to MY mind these pack are not very stable and make a mess in your pc).
so now when you tell them "decoder pack" they think "mino" or "ace" and say, "it's useless" or "it's not legal" and i can understand them.
but i'm always testing the softs before make my opinion, it's a pity that not everyone do the same .....

@all
thanks for replying, but if you can test my pack before say it's "evil", "useless", or other free affirmation it will be cooler ^^

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DAvenger · 27th April 2004, 15:20

Yeah, but you never mailed me

As far as I know, codec is an abbreviation for coder/decoder.

Shinobu · 27th April 2004, 15:24

My pack as only decoder, no coder that's why it a decoder pack
i don't think i use any of your filter but i may be wrong (sorry if i do).
witch filter ?

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DAvenger · 27th April 2004, 15:51

RadLight MPC DirectShow filter

Quote:

and i like it a lot more that your player (never use it)

Quote:

everyone must be free to choose is player, that's why i include in my decoder pack

Shinobu · 27th April 2004, 16:02

damn.
i'm totaly appologising.
that's the last filter i add

.
i got it for a japanese site (total hazard) and have no doc at all with it, just a sentence witch say it free and decode mpc ^^'.
it you don't want i use it in my pack , i'll remove it in the next version.

i'm happy you agreed with me that "everyone must be free to choose is player".

sorry for my roughtness (it's that word ?) but because of my bad english i thought you where agressiv .....

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DAvenger · 27th April 2004, 16:07

No problem, you can use it. Thanks for asking

P.S I'd recommend you to include a license from the original RLMPC installer which also credits the MusePack creators.

Shinobu · 27th April 2004, 16:37

yes that a thing i'm planing for some.
i'll include a txt file with all licences.
i'll do this in the next version if i can.

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iwod · 27th April 2004, 22:30

Sorry... what is new in this recent version?

Mise en ligne de la version 1.0.3.2 du satsuki decoder pack (partie download):
+Remplacement de MPC fr par MPC (bugs de save image, properties et chapitrage sur la version fr) merci hachann pour ce bug ^^
+Le decoder pack est maintenant dual-lang français/anglais (cela ne change rien à la taille et la langue choisit est retenue sauf en cas de désinstallation du pack)
+Mise en place d'une vérification de mise à jour dans l'intalleur (à l'install une connexion au site vérifie si une version plus récente est disponible (ce ne sera utile qu'a partir de la prochaine version ^^)

And will including Divx decoder be illegal?
( I may have to research if Divx is better than FDDshow )

Sirber · 27th April 2004, 23:08

* Replaced MPC (FR) by MPC (probably english)
* Dual language
* Update verifier in the installer

Shinobu · 28th April 2004, 06:25

Yes , i've replaced le MPC fr by MPC english because (i don't kown why) the "save image" and "properties" are not usable in frensch version.
i've also added english language ^^.
i've added a version checker (when you install it, it connect to my website (silently) and if a newer version is detected it ask you if you want to go to my site to download it)

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25th April 2004, 19:26	#1 \| Link
Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	satsuki decoder pack 1.0.4.8 (dual-lang) the satsuki decoder pack is a filter based A/V decoding pack. it can decode : +Most of mpeg4 based video (ffdshow) +All real media (included real 10 elesyan & real AAC/AAC+ & HFE2) +Windows media 7/8/9 (audio & video) & asf +Mpeg2 / DVD +On2 vp3 +On2 vp6 +All subtitles +Mp1 / mp2 / mp3 +AC3 +ape +ofr +flac +AAC/MP4 +OGG/OGM +MPC (musepack) +MKV +XCD +XVD (new format witch new a dedicated player or my pack and any player ^^) this pack contain the last media player classic it is 100% free and is realy very stable and don't make a mess in your codecs like ACE or NIMO codec. my pack is filter based, it doesn't contain any encoding codec (that's au decoder pack). this pack as a long history but a haven't any time to make a dual-language install. this pack installer is made with NSIS 2.0. this pack chach my website at the install to check if a newer version is online (it's not a spyware or so). you can of course install only one of the filter if you like. my website is in frensch only but it will probably change when i'll had some time. http://satsuki.yatoshi.free.fr/ sorry for the long post and my very poor english. all suggestions are welcome. ps: the filter is only 5.5mo weight please test it ^^ ++ Last edited by Shinobu; 29th August 2004 at 18:56.

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Koepi Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 4,454	One suggestion which you'll find on every FAQ around here: Don't use codec packs. __________________ Koepi's new media development site

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Sirber retired developer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,978	There was no complain from Real Networks yet __________________ Detritus Software

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	@Koepi i'm totaly agree with you, codec pack sux, that's why a made this DECODER pack witch only use filter and no codec, it don't mess up you codec configuration. it also unreg copy & reg the filter it use, so it is no double reg bug possible. it as no bug nor confict reported yet (for this version and the 1.0.3.1 at least). i hate ace codec pack & cie because when you have installed it, you probably need to reinstall windows too ^^, my pack is not like this. @jk888 I agree, not everyone is a video expert. + if you burn a cd of tests or clip made with a lot of différents codecs, put my pack on it, it take only 5.3mo and it can be use by any nooby. @kilg0r3 after apple mail me to remove the quicktime support of my pack, i've mailed real several times (4 or 5 i thinks) and never had any answer. so i'm waiting ... i also think thats alernative decoding pack for real media help then to extend ther codec popularity. the real media is FOR ME the best actual codec for anime, but i would never used it if i had to use realmediaplayer or realone. @all 1)download my pack 2)test it 3)say here "it sux because ...." or "it is wonderfull because..." or "it will be good if you made ..." 4)del it from you hard drive or use it ^^ i make this pack with the hope to help but if you don't whant to use it, just don't use it, but at leat, test it before (you can't say a think is or or not without have tested it ^^) ++ Last edited by Shinobu; 26th April 2004 at 15:16.

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	No sugestion nor report ? ++

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r0cket Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Russia Posts: 57	Shinobu, if you follow this link you'll see that this site is not the place for any packs (except official as i can see). God, 4 posts by me one after the other!

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DAvenger hacked Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bratislava, Slovak Republic Posts: 440	I wonder when you guys making all those codec packs are going to start asking for permission? While I support anyone who wants to include one of our filters in his pack I would really like to know who, when and where ( your pack includes several illegal codecs which might be a liabilty for us) Anyway, being polite is no longer cool? P.S Codec packs are evil, but RadLight solves all codecs problems by it's fully customizable graph building engine. __________________ Pokec o sexe, láske a vzťahoch : http://www.mojvztah.sk Spyware, malware a vírusy : http://www.antispyware.sk Hudba, texty, akordy, noty, albumy, mp3 a videoklipy : http://www.musicworld.sk Last edited by DAvenger; 27th April 2004 at 14:10.

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	@DAvenger "...i've mailed real several times (4 or 5 i thinks) and never had any answer." if they mail me to remove it, i'll remove it i think i'm polite but my english is very approximative, soo if i'm not, i appolyse for it. ps: my pack is made for the easyest use with the most stability, when you know exactly witch filter to use and how to configure it, you don't need decoder pack (my pack is NOT a codec pack , but a decoder pack, i hate codec pack). but no everyone know how to do it. media player classic can also decode a lot of file by imself (because of a lot of build in filter) and i like it a lot more that your player (never use it) but that's MY opinion, everyone must be free to choose is player, that's why i include in my decoder pack the filters that mpc as already built in, so everyone can play his favorite vidéo with his favorite player. if you are here to tel me "you pack is useless, just see and use my soft" i'll ansew you "i want to be free to chose my player !" @kilg0r3 of course i'm planing to update it as often as possible (it'a already 1.0.3.2 and i've started with version 1.0.0.0) but for some of the filter (ffdshow for exemple) i may use a older version because of stability. @rocket Yes i know. the main problem is that most of the "video boss" have tester only one or 2 codecs pack, and it probably was ACE or nimo or other like them. (and to MY mind these pack are not very stable and make a mess in your pc). so now when you tell them "decoder pack" they think "mino" or "ace" and say, "it's useless" or "it's not legal" and i can understand them. but i'm always testing the softs before make my opinion, it's a pity that not everyone do the same ..... @all thanks for replying, but if you can test my pack before say it's "evil", "useless", or other free affirmation it will be cooler ^^ ++ Last edited by Shinobu; 27th April 2004 at 15:22.

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DAvenger hacked Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bratislava, Slovak Republic Posts: 440	Yeah, but you never mailed me As far as I know, codec is an abbreviation for coder/decoder. __________________ Pokec o sexe, láske a vzťahoch : http://www.mojvztah.sk Spyware, malware a vírusy : http://www.antispyware.sk Hudba, texty, akordy, noty, albumy, mp3 a videoklipy : http://www.musicworld.sk

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	My pack as only decoder, no coder that's why it a decoder pack i don't think i use any of your filter but i may be wrong (sorry if i do). witch filter ? ++ Last edited by Shinobu; 27th April 2004 at 15:37.

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	damn. i'm totaly appologising. that's the last filter i add . i got it for a japanese site (total hazard) and have no doc at all with it, just a sentence witch say it free and decode mpc ^^'. it you don't want i use it in my pack , i'll remove it in the next version. i'm happy you agreed with me that "everyone must be free to choose is player". sorry for my roughtness (it's that word ?) but because of my bad english i thought you where agressiv ..... ++

27th April 2004, 16:07	#16 \| Link
DAvenger hacked Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bratislava, Slovak Republic Posts: 440	No problem, you can use it. Thanks for asking P.S I'd recommend you to include a license from the original RLMPC installer which also credits the MusePack creators. __________________ Pokec o sexe, láske a vzťahoch : http://www.mojvztah.sk Spyware, malware a vírusy : http://www.antispyware.sk Hudba, texty, akordy, noty, albumy, mp3 a videoklipy : http://www.musicworld.sk

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	yes that a thing i'm planing for some. i'll include a txt file with all licences. i'll do this in the next version if i can. ++

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iwod Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 756	Sorry... what is new in this recent version? Mise en ligne de la version 1.0.3.2 du satsuki decoder pack (partie download): +Remplacement de MPC fr par MPC (bugs de save image, properties et chapitrage sur la version fr) merci hachann pour ce bug ^^ +Le decoder pack est maintenant dual-lang français/anglais (cela ne change rien à la taille et la langue choisit est retenue sauf en cas de désinstallation du pack) +Mise en place d'une vérification de mise à jour dans l'intalleur (à l'install une connexion au site vérifie si une version plus récente est disponible (ce ne sera utile qu'a partir de la prochaine version ^^) And will including Divx decoder be illegal? ( I may have to research if Divx is better than FDDshow )

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Sirber retired developer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,978	* Replaced MPC (FR) by MPC (probably english) * Dual language * Update verifier in the installer __________________ Detritus Software

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Shinobu Satsuki'S Softs Maker Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 189	Yes , i've replaced le MPC fr by MPC english because (i don't kown why) the "save image" and "properties" are not usable in frensch version. i've also added english language ^^. i've added a version checker (when you install it, it connect to my website (silently) and if a newer version is detected it ask you if you want to go to my site to download it) ++