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Old 18th March 2007, 00:35   #101  |  Link
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No, you need to do this in IfoEdit. If you make a mistake, Cancel or don't save and start again, referencing the cell somewhere else first.

I believe it's a real feature and time saver to skip over the deleted cells.

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Old 18th March 2007, 01:20   #102  |  Link
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thanks.

wouldn't it be nice though to have a checkbox somewhere to set wether or not i want to pick deleted cells?
@r0lZ would you consider create something like this?

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Old 18th March 2007, 11:02   #103  |  Link
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Well, currently, PgcEdit uses the information in the IFOs only to build the list of available sells. This means that you cannot pick a cell that has been deleted, unless it is referenced elsewhere.

If you want to keep track of all cells, use "New 'Play All' Title" to create a new PGC referencing all cells. Then, work on the other PGCs, and finally, delete the Play All PGC.

It should be possible, of course, to scan the VOBs to find all unreferenced cells, but that's slow, and furthermore, it's currently incompatible with the way I have programmed the PGC editor and the V/CID remapping function. Sorry.
Maybe I'll write a plugin to build a Play All title with all VOB cells (instead of all cells already referenced in the IFO.) After having used this plugin, you should be able to use any cell of the VOB. But don't expect that soon...
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Old 18th March 2007, 22:56   #104  |  Link
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i'm not in a hurry
thanks, anyway
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Old 19th March 2007, 07:39   #105  |  Link
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...Maybe I'll write a plugin to build a Play All title...
Thank's ahead, r0lZ.
Seems, it will be a useful plugin. Sometimes it needed.
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Old 19th March 2007, 14:40   #106  |  Link
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Thanks for the confirmations, Sir and linx! I suppose I don't need further info, but continue to be cautious when you use that function, and verify the time maps with the plugin, although I'm almost sure everything is fine now.
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Unfortunately, the beta version is still doing the same thing for me: an infinite loop of rebulding time maps, and then fixing the length. No change in behavior.
Unfortunately this is happening to me again. This time a PAL DVD: THE_GIRL_NEXT_DOOR_UNRATED R4 ripped with RipIt4Me 1.7.0.99 BETA. Using the plugin PgcEdit (8.1 BETA 2, Feb 3) found three timecode errors but only managed to fix two. The last one was stubborn. I performed a Rebuild all timemaps of DVD but that did not work. The last timecode error simply would not disappear.

I ran the DVD through VobBlanker (2.1.3.0 BETA 8) with VOB internal pointers enabled (both) and it seemed to reset the timecode problems back to three errors. So I don't know what happened there.

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Time Map tables
DVD-TEXT General Name: ""
Provider ID: ""
Number of VTS: 6


-------------------- VTS 1 --------------------
13 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 13 PGCs.

VTST 1 , 1   TTN 1  (1:45:00)  Title 1  (sequential title)
1574 x 4 seconds =   1:44:56

VTST 1 , 2   TTN 2  (0:01)  Title 2  (sequential title)
********** WARNING: Empty Time Map!

VTST 1 , 3   TTN 3  (8:14)  Title 3  (sequential title)
493 x 1 seconds =    8:13

VTST 1 , 4   TTN 4  (2:32)  Title 4  (sequential title)
151 x 1 seconds =    2:31

VTST 1 , 5   TTN 5  (1:48)  Title 5  (sequential title)
107 x 1 seconds =    1:47

VTST 1 , 6   TTN 6  (1:27)  Title 6  (sequential title)
86 x 1 seconds =     1:26

VTST 1 , 7   TTN 7  (2:29)  Title 7  (sequential title)
148 x 1 seconds =    2:28

VTST 1 , 8   TTN 8  (12:07)  Title 8  (sequential title)
726 x 1 seconds =    12:06

VTST 1 , 9   TTN 9  (1:58)  Title 9  (sequential title)
117 x 1 seconds =    1:57

VTST 1 , 10   TTN 10  (2:32)  Title 10  (sequential title)
151 x 1 seconds =    2:31

VTST 1 , 11   TTN 11  (2:11)  Title 11  (sequential title)
130 x 1 seconds =    2:10

VTST 1 , 12   TTN 12  (2:21)  Title 12  (sequential title)
140 x 1 seconds =    2:20

VTST 1 , 13   TTN 13  (3:07)  Title 13  (sequential title)
186 x 1 seconds =    3:06


-------------------- VTS 2 --------------------
1 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 1 PGCs.

VTST 2 , 1   TTN 1  (0:01)  Title 14  (sequential title)
1 x 1 seconds =      0:01


-------------------- VTS 3 --------------------
1 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 1 PGCs.

VTST 3 , 1   TTN 1  (0:01)  Title 15  (sequential title)
1 x 1 seconds =      0:01


-------------------- VTS 4 --------------------
5 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 5 PGCs.

VTST 4 , 1   TTN 1  (7:57)  Title 16  (sequential title)
476 x 1 seconds =    7:56

VTST 4 , 2   TTN 2  (10:00)  Title 17  (sequential title)
599 x 1 seconds =    9:59

VTST 4 , 3   TTN 3  (2:40)  Title 18  (sequential title)
159 x 1 seconds =    2:39

VTST 4 , 4   TTN 4  (2:18)  Title 19  (sequential title)
137 x 1 seconds =    2:17

VTST 4 , 5   TTN 5  (9:32)  Title 20  (sequential title)
571 x 1 seconds =    9:31


-------------------- VTS 5 --------------------
2 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 2 PGCs.

VTST 5 , 1   TTN 1  (0:00)  1b.  Title 21  (non-sequential title)
Empty Time Map.

VTST 5 , 2   TTN 1  (0:20)  (non-sequential title)
19 x 1 seconds =     0:19


-------------------- VTS 6 --------------------
17 VTS_TMAP tables defined in VTS_TMAPTI for 17 PGCs.

VTST 6 , 1   TTN 1  (0:27)  Title 22  (sequential title)
26 x 1 seconds =     0:26

VTST 6 , 2   TTN 2  (0:45)  Title 23  (sequential title)
44 x 1 seconds =     0:44

VTST 6 , 3   TTN 3  (0:36)  Title 24  (sequential title)
35 x 1 seconds =     0:35

VTST 6 , 4   TTN 4  (0:17)  Title 25  (sequential title)
16 x 1 seconds =     0:16

VTST 6 , 5   TTN 5  (0:33)  Title 26  (sequential title)
32 x 1 seconds =     0:32

VTST 6 , 6   TTN 6  (0:29)  Title 27  (sequential title)
28 x 1 seconds =     0:28

VTST 6 , 7   TTN 7  (1:19)  Title 28  (sequential title)
78 x 1 seconds =     1:18

VTST 6 , 8   TTN 8  (0:31)  Title 29  (sequential title)
30 x 1 seconds =     0:30

VTST 6 , 9   TTN 9  (0:21)  Title 30  (sequential title)
20 x 1 seconds =     0:20

VTST 6 , 10   TTN 10  (1:13)  Title 31  (sequential title)
72 x 1 seconds =     1:12

VTST 6 , 11   TTN 11  (0:17)  Title 32  (sequential title)
16 x 1 seconds =     0:16

VTST 6 , 12   TTN 12  (1:27)  Title 33  (sequential title)
86 x 1 seconds =     1:26

VTST 6 , 13   TTN 13  (1:08)  Title 34  (sequential title)
67 x 1 seconds =     1:07

VTST 6 , 14   TTN 14  (0:18)  Title 35  (sequential title)
17 x 1 seconds =     0:17

VTST 6 , 15   TTN 15  (0:16)  Title 36  (sequential title)
15 x 1 seconds =     0:15

VTST 6 , 16   TTN 16  (0:29)  Title 37  (sequential title)
28 x 1 seconds =     0:28

VTST 6 , 17   TTN 17  (10:14)  Title 38  (sequential title)
613 x 1 seconds =    10:13


------------------- Summary -------------------
VTST 1 , 2   TTN 2  (0:01)  Title 2: Empty TMAP!

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Old 20th March 2007, 03:01   #107  |  Link
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An empty time map for a 1 second title is nothing to worry about linx05.

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Old 20th March 2007, 07:59   #108  |  Link
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I know but I thought I would report it since for one reason or another PgcEdit will not fix it.
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Old 20th March 2007, 11:19   #109  |  Link
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I remember I've added a check in one of the functions (but probably not in the other one.) If the last cell is a tiny black short cell, and its LBA should be in the time map, I consider that it is useless to add that entry, as the tiny cell is not really a part of the movie/PGC. Maybe it's the cause of the problem.

I'll have a look as soon as possible, but I can't do it now. If I forgot it, please remind me in a couple of weeks...
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Old 22nd March 2007, 12:36   #110  |  Link
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Time Map plugin v1.3

OK, linx05, I've found two possible causes of the problem.

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VTST 1 , 2   TTN 2  (0:01)  Title 2  (sequential title)
********** WARNING: Empty Time Map!
When PgcEdit rebuilds the time map, it adds entries in the time map while the last entry is less than the total time of the PGC. Since, in this case, the total time of the PGC is exactly 1 second, the first entry is not added, as its time is equal to the total PGC time.
I have not changed that, as it is totally useless to seek to the end of the PGC. Anyway, that's also the behaviour of VobBlanker.

The second problem is in the Verify Time Map function of the plugin.
Since here, the total duration of the PGC is greater than 0 (and the title is sequential), the plugin assumes that a time map is needed, and complains. I have also changed that. Now, it won't complain any more when the duration is less than 1.01 seconds.

Note that the plugin complains also when no VTS_TMAPTI table exists at all, even if there are only not-one_sequential titles in the VTS. However, PgcEdit won't complain if the table exists, but the time maps of non-sequential_titles are empty, since this is perfectly legal.
PgcEdit and VobBlanker rebuild the time maps of those titles anyway, since the presence of the map doesn't hurt, and can even be useful with some players.

You can download v1.3 of the Time Map plugin here.
Please let me know if all problems are fixed. Thanks.
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Old 23rd March 2007, 06:41   #111  |  Link
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Good morning r0lZ,

first of all congratulations for your awesome tool!!!

Are there any plans to implement a function to save a "project" ? This would be very usefull for beginners like me (and others) to have the chance loading a PCGEdit-profile for a certain DVD (should be possible to identify a DVD-Video so that the project is the right one for this DVD) to use and learn.

Ore is this already possible?
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Old 23rd March 2007, 06:53   #112  |  Link
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No, sorry.
PgcEdit is not an authoring tool. It can only modify an existing DVD. Therefore, the "project" is the original DVD.

What do you want to save and re-use? You can already import and export a lot of things, but it is not possible to automate that, as every DVD is different.
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Old 23rd March 2007, 07:02   #113  |  Link
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Hello r0lZ,

what a quick answer?´;-) Thanks.

I mean a kind of things to do with PGCEdit for a special Video-DVD. As an example I want to remove some Trailers and menus from the DVD Terminator and want to give this "settings" for doing the job to a friend (or internet-/board-user) to just load these settings and use it on his/her Terminator-DVD (which should be exactly the same version) in PCGEdit.

I didn't mean a general Plugin/Tool for removing/changing things for every DVD but saving/loading settings for a special DVD.
This would help a lot in the different HowTo's and guides (no screenshots needed).
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Old 23rd March 2007, 09:48   #114  |  Link
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I understand, but it's a huge work to implement that! PgcEdit is not designed to be controlled by scripts or project files, and implementing that would require a complete rewrite of the program!

You can probably send your IFOs to your friend, but you must be sure that NO VOB files are modified! You cannot blank a PGC, and you cannot use a function that changes the content of the VOB files! However, you can blank totally a whole domain if you send the resulting tiny VOB file (10KB) as well.
If you need to edit the menu buttons, you can export the modified menus and send the exported files as well. Your friend will have to import them one at a time. (BTW, the next version of PgcEdit will have a function to import/export all buttons in a single operation.)

Sorry, I can't do much more...
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Hello again r0lZ,

is there any hope that you maybe implement scripts or project files in a future version of PGCEdit ?

Thanks a lot.
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Old 23rd March 2007, 13:53   #117  |  Link
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QUEENFAN - you could try automate PgcEdit with AutoIt, it may work. I have done that with other GUI-only programs and it worked fine.
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I use AutoHotKey (free and powerful) for this kind of job, but I haven't tried with PgcEdit yet.
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AutoIt is also free & powerful:

http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/
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bug?

hi i just found something interesting, i don't really know wether it is VobBlanker, PgcEdit, or me, but PgcEdit gave me the error message, so i post it here.

i used VobBlanker to create final chapter points in all 3 episodes on an episodic disc, at the last sector possible (the end positon of the slider) to create a tiny cell at the end, to be able to jumpt to the end of the episode.
it all worked fine in PgcEdit until i used Trace mode. stepping through the title was still ok, but when i used the 'Next Chapter' button when playing the last tiny cell i got the following error message:

Fatal error!
PgcEdit is trying to read data after the end of table. This means that a Length Of Table value is probably wrong (See log.)
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so i opened the log, and found this inside:

ERROR! get_int: Attempt to read 1 bytes at offset 6 (0x6) after end of table!
Variable: :gcs(1,1,programmap), length of table: 6

before splitting, it worked ok, also no error when i use the '-> Step' button at the same position.
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