French Doom9 - Page 6

Scipio · 1st October 2002, 19:27

perhaps you could try another browser? Opera or Mozilla?
or update to IE6 SP1 (although I don't believe SP1 will solve the problem)

DonHora · 1st October 2002, 21:53

I've tried to browse the site sending HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 requests (can cause several problems with IE), via a proxy and direct connection and it worked flawlessly.
As Scipio said, try Mozilla or another browser. I'm using NetCaptor, IE 6 SP1 and Mozilla and they all work.

Perhaps there's another explaination : sometimes our provider doesn't send some files when you browse the site. Often I can't see the mini flags and I must reload all the stuff several times. Maybe our provider doesn't send you a whole HTML file like right.html

Try with another browser and tell us.

cu
DonHora

inoteb · 1st October 2002, 23:38

I don't think it's a bug from FrenchDoom9 : I got the same yesterday when connecting to "original" doom9.org on a crap PC at work (ADSL line but only 16MB RAM and old Netscape!). I reloaded 2 or 3 times and that was OK, except that the menu (left.htm) couldn't load (but I never saw it loaded corectly on this shit-computer

)

Regards
inoteb ;-]

epere4 · 2nd October 2002, 04:30

I have never gotten that error, neither...
I use IE6.

CU

goof · 2nd October 2002, 10:28

same with mozilla 1.1
i type in the adresse bar : http://french.doom9.org/
it redirect to the same adress as in IE 6:
http://reno.dess.free.fr/index.htm?/
if i delete the ?/ at the end it wirk correctly
i put a screnshot for mozilla 1.1

DonHora · 2nd October 2002, 10:34

YES !!!

I've managed to have the same bug with Mozilla 1.1 but I can't have it with IE. Now I can track this bug down. I'll post information about this ASAP.

cu

DonHora · 2nd October 2002, 12:35

OK,

I think it's not a bug.
When you want to display a page on doom9's site, the page tests if the frameset is loaded. If it's not loaded then it loads the frameset, and the page you want is loaded in the '_right' frame.
The string after the '?' in the URL is the page you really want to see and it's the page that will be loaded in the '_right' frame. In your URL, after the '?' there id a '/' sign, so you want to display the root of the site in the '_right' frame. That's why you see some recursive display of this page.
This happens also on original's doom9 page because I use the same script.
Try this : www.doom9.org/index.html?/

I knew for a while how one can get this sort of 'recursive' display when browsing this site, but what I don't understand is why your browser points to this URL. You really need to tell us everything you do when tou browse this site because I don't have enough information to help you.
I gave you this 'technical' explaination and though I admit that it's not very clear, I hope it can help you to tell me more about how to reproduce this correctly.

cu

Scipio · 2nd October 2002, 15:32

Strange enough that http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/ works normally in my IE6 SP1, but Mozilla 1.1 does it in the recursive way.

Just for you to know: This is not a script problem as DonHora already pointed out. I've worked out this script for Doom9 and I've tested it thoroughly before he took it into his documents.

So, if you've got suggestions for improvement, I'm the one to talk to. It's not meant for bugging you, but to prevent others from stealing content in the first place.

Look at this site statistics of spanish.doom9.org and you know why this is a good thing (epere4 implemented it on the site around September 7th, the "crash" after that happened because the server was down during that weekend).
Here's a picture, since in the months statistics it won't be so clear in a few days.
The impact on Doom9.de was rather small (~400 visitors more), Doom9 reported some noticable gains as well (I think it was about 50% more). That shows that other sites often link directly to his sites and people don't really see the menus and what else the page has to offer. They often simply leave after having read the guide. That's why I did it.

The picture shows the stats of Spanish.doom9.org from 2002/09/26.

Frenchy_Alex · 4th October 2002, 17:45

SHiSo, as-tu eut mon message?

goof · 4th October 2002, 18:03

try this :
http://reno.dess.free.fr/index.html?/?/?/?/?/?/
very smart recursive display

inoteb · 4th October 2002, 19:25

Quote:

Originally posted by goof
try this :
http://reno.dess.free.fr/index.html?/?/?/?/?/?/
very smart recursive display

Mouhahaha

Smart, I don't think so... but recursive & funny : for sure!

nesskiel · 4th October 2002, 22:44

Klona est toujours vivant?
j'ai envoye mes traduction y'a une semaine et pas de reponses..

En plus sur le fichiers .xls les infos sont fausses sur pas mal de points.. moi je me tourne les pouces en ce moment..

allez un t'chi effort et on me dit les guides à traduire?

inoteb · 5th October 2002, 01:07

AFAIK, Klona's still alive

I sent him translations 2 days ago and they're already on line (and xls file has been updated).
But I think the guy is quite busy these days...

klona · 5th October 2002, 08:09

Yes, still alive ! But quite busy this week.
Guides done are on their way to be online, but it always need an heavy work to check and also to modify html file when it's not doom9 L&F compliant.

nesskiel · 5th October 2002, 11:29

just have to say it

1st October 2002, 19:27	#101 \| Link
Scipio translation mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: http://german.doom9.org/ Posts: 284	perhaps you could try another browser? Opera or Mozilla? or update to IE6 SP1 (although I don't believe SP1 will solve the problem) __________________ [Translation Guidelines] - [Overview of Doom9 translation mirrors] - - - [German Doom9] When arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same.

1st October 2002, 23:38	#103 \| Link
inoteb OggMedia addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: Palladia Tolosa (France) Posts: 86	I don't think it's a bug from FrenchDoom9 : I got the same yesterday when connecting to "original" doom9.org on a crap PC at work (ADSL line but only 16MB RAM and old Netscape!). I reloaded 2 or 3 times and that was OK, except that the menu (left.htm) couldn't load (but I never saw it loaded corectly on this shit-computer ) Regards inoteb ;-] __________________ Black dogs are barking at the door ;-] --- TCMP ! TCMP ! TCMP !

2nd October 2002, 04:30	#104 \| Link
epere4 Doom9 in Spanish Team Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Trenque Lauquen - Bs As - Argentina Posts: 244	I have never gotten that error, neither... I use IE6. CU __________________ epere4 Doom9 in Spanish [Site] - [Forum] Get DVobSub 2.23 and VobSub 2.23 in Spanish

2nd October 2002, 15:32	#108 \| Link
Scipio translation mod Join Date: May 2002 Location: http://german.doom9.org/ Posts: 284	Strange enough that http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/ works normally in my IE6 SP1, but Mozilla 1.1 does it in the recursive way. Just for you to know: This is not a script problem as DonHora already pointed out. I've worked out this script for Doom9 and I've tested it thoroughly before he took it into his documents. So, if you've got suggestions for improvement, I'm the one to talk to. It's not meant for bugging you, but to prevent others from stealing content in the first place. Look at this site statistics of spanish.doom9.org and you know why this is a good thing (epere4 implemented it on the site around September 7th, the "crash" after that happened because the server was down during that weekend). Here's a picture, since in the months statistics it won't be so clear in a few days. The impact on Doom9.de was rather small (~400 visitors more), Doom9 reported some noticable gains as well (I think it was about 50% more). That shows that other sites often link directly to his sites and people don't really see the menus and what else the page has to offer. They often simply leave after having read the guide. That's why I did it. The picture shows the stats of Spanish.doom9.org from 2002/09/26. __________________ [Translation Guidelines] - [Overview of Doom9 translation mirrors] - - - [German Doom9] When arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same. Last edited by Scipio; 2nd October 2002 at 15:35.

4th October 2002, 17:45	#109 \| Link
Frenchy_Alex Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 2	SHiSo, as-tu eut mon message? __________________ There's too much blood in my cafeine system.

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DonHora Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: France - Lyon Posts: 51	I've tried to browse the site sending HTTP 1.0 and 1.1 requests (can cause several problems with IE), via a proxy and direct connection and it worked flawlessly. As Scipio said, try Mozilla or another browser. I'm using NetCaptor, IE 6 SP1 and Mozilla and they all work. Perhaps there's another explaination : sometimes our provider doesn't send some files when you browse the site. Often I can't see the mini flags and I must reload all the stuff several times. Maybe our provider doesn't send you a whole HTML file like right.html Try with another browser and tell us. cu DonHora

2nd October 2002, 10:28	#105 \| Link
goof Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 13	same with mozilla 1.1 i type in the adresse bar : http://french.doom9.org/ it redirect to the same adress as in IE 6: http://reno.dess.free.fr/index.htm?/ if i delete the ?/ at the end it wirk correctly i put a screnshot for mozilla 1.1

2nd October 2002, 10:34	#106 \| Link
DonHora Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: France - Lyon Posts: 51	YES !!! I've managed to have the same bug with Mozilla 1.1 but I can't have it with IE. Now I can track this bug down. I'll post information about this ASAP. cu

2nd October 2002, 12:35	#107 \| Link
DonHora Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: France - Lyon Posts: 51	OK, I think it's not a bug. When you want to display a page on doom9's site, the page tests if the frameset is loaded. If it's not loaded then it loads the frameset, and the page you want is loaded in the '_right' frame. The string after the '?' in the URL is the page you really want to see and it's the page that will be loaded in the '_right' frame. In your URL, after the '?' there id a '/' sign, so you want to display the root of the site in the '_right' frame. That's why you see some recursive display of this page. This happens also on original's doom9 page because I use the same script. Try this : www.doom9.org/index.html?/ I knew for a while how one can get this sort of 'recursive' display when browsing this site, but what I don't understand is why your browser points to this URL. You really need to tell us everything you do when tou browse this site because I don't have enough information to help you. I gave you this 'technical' explaination and though I admit that it's not very clear, I hope it can help you to tell me more about how to reproduce this correctly. cu

4th October 2002, 18:03	#110 \| Link
goof Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 13	try this : http://reno.dess.free.fr/index.html?/?/?/?/?/?/ very smart recursive display

4th October 2002, 22:44	#112 \| Link
nesskiel Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27	Klona est toujours vivant? j'ai envoye mes traduction y'a une semaine et pas de reponses.. En plus sur le fichiers .xls les infos sont fausses sur pas mal de points.. moi je me tourne les pouces en ce moment.. allez un t'chi effort et on me dit les guides à traduire?

5th October 2002, 01:07	#113 \| Link
inoteb OggMedia addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: Palladia Tolosa (France) Posts: 86	AFAIK, Klona's still alive I sent him translations 2 days ago and they're already on line (and xls file has been updated). But I think the guy is quite busy these days... __________________ Black dogs are barking at the door ;-] --- TCMP ! TCMP ! TCMP !

5th October 2002, 08:09	#114 \| Link
klona Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Frogland Posts: 520	Yes, still alive ! But quite busy this week. Guides done are on their way to be online, but it always need an heavy work to check and also to modify html file when it's not doom9 L&F compliant.

5th October 2002, 11:29	#115 \| Link
nesskiel Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27	just have to say it