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Old 24th November 2016, 02:41   #40681  |  Link
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I've confirmed this on my 960 as well with it falling back to Jinc, it only happens when using 32 bit playback. Nice one Scyna.
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Old 24th November 2016, 03:38   #40682  |  Link
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Someone please sticky this!!!!!

DO NOT install SVP on Pascal GPUs based setups!!!!!!!

I made the ugly mistake of trying to use SVP on an 1080, madVR + mpcHC setup. That thing broke my drivers, I alost had to reinstall windows. After uninstalling it, madVR and MPC HC kept crashing, even reinstalling them, erasing all registry entries did not fix it.

Keep in mind, SVP breaks the Nvidia driver entirely!

On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...
try use NGU-low no coil whine on my cheap GTX 970 modded with 2 Noctua NF-F12 PWM.
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Old 24th November 2016, 03:46   #40683  |  Link
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I finally had a chance to watch some crappy streaming content on Kodi. Can't say enough good things about NGU. SD looks HD. Who cares if it's pirated content.
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Old 24th November 2016, 03:47   #40684  |  Link
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On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...
It's not something that can be fixed, it's related to the stress placed on the components and the vibration they create as a result of it, it's not overloading anything it's just not ideal design.
As a result you either give your card possibly more performance headroom (overclock) and see if that changes anything or just use another option that generates less stress. As advised above try the low setting.

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Old 24th November 2016, 04:59   #40685  |  Link
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I remember my old HD 5850 fan would make noise and I would take it apart and put wd40 and it would stay fine for a couple of months. I'm not sure if coil whine is the same problem I had though.
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Old 24th November 2016, 07:30   #40686  |  Link
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On NGU, I don't use it until the coil whine will maybe get a fix. I'm scared of why no game and nothing else causes coil whine, but madVR w/ NGU does, so I'll just use it after this gets solved...

do you have dx11 enabled with v-sync?
how high are your queues?
Also try software decoding

On Sapphire 390 Nitro I actually see lower temps and twice as lower loads than NNDI3 even at 16. Also coil whine is usually brand disease Asus messes up every second generation, Gigabyte, EVGA on lower end models has it almost every time they cheap out on inductors(EVGA cheaped out on vrm several cards blew up).
It won't get solved, it is your videocard problem you probably do not play many demanding games to notice.
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Old 24th November 2016, 07:47   #40687  |  Link
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An issue like coil whine must be why I'm not compelled to buy expensive GPUs, that and unnecessarily loud cooling systems. I can only assume people are protective of their investment to blame MadVR on coil whine.

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Old 24th November 2016, 09:33   #40688  |  Link
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Hi from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

These are my statistics with the new version of madvr. I hope they are of help.

2k to 4k upscaling

(hardware info: Core i7 6820HK, 32GB DDR4-3000Mhz, SSD 960 Pro, GIGABYTE NVIDIA GTX 1080 GAMING G1 OC GPU 2150Mhz/Mem 5622Mhz)

Guardians.of.the.Galaxy.2014.1080p.BluRay.REMUX.DTS-HD.MA.7.1.mkv (uncompressed)

File size: 31.2 GiB
Duration: 2 h 0 min
Overall bit rate mode: Variable
Overall bit rate: 37.0 Mb/s
Width: 1 920 pixels
Height: 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio: 16:9
Frame rate mode: Constant
Frame rate: 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space: YUV
Chroma subsampling: 4:2:0

chroma upscaling NGU High
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU High
image upscaling Jinc
Average 31,27 ms
Max 32,73 ms

chroma upscaling NGU Med
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU Med
image upscaling Jinc
Average 14,10 ms
Max 15,17 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 29,51 ms
Max 33,49 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 64
image upscaling Jinc
Average 20,16 ms
Max 23,76 ms

chroma upscaling NNEDI3 64
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NGU high
image upscaling Jinc
Average 28,20 ms
Max 30,26 ms

chroma upscaling NGU high
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 32,57 ms
Max 34,43 ms

chroma upscaling NGU med
SuperRes Filter strength x 1
image doubling - double luma NNEDI3 128
image upscaling Jinc
Average 26,64 ms
Max 29,80 ms

all whitout any upscaling refinement...

Does anyone recommend me best settings for 2k to 4k upscaling of REMUX mkv files?

Thks!

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Old 24th November 2016, 09:59   #40689  |  Link
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Maybe you are only one but I had no problems with my 1060 +svp+mdvr+mpc-hc. I could not find anything on the internet indicating that there is a problem with pascal gpus
Dig deeper, SVP team advises clearly to NOT install SVP with recent Nvidia drivers, they break the drivers, performance goes a lot down for the entire card.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671

It's something that I found on an easy search after I had a few black screens, but it gets worse, it can cause GPU to disconnect and eventually break down - this is known by SVP team and has been for a while, but they did NOT fix it yet.

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what?
See above, SVP is not to be used with Nvidia drivers.

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It's not something that can be fixed, it's related to the stress placed on the components and the vibration they create as a result of it, it's not overloading anything it's just not ideal design.
As a result you either give your card possibly more performance headroom (overclock) and see if that changes anything or just use another option that generates less stress. As advised above try the low setting.



Actually, this is one of the problems, I can play most games at super ultra mega resolutions and fps and quality settings, and there is no coil whine. I can play videos at NNEDI 256 and there is no coil whine. NGU causes coil whine even at low for me, and I've no idea why... I'm just scared of coil whine to be honest.

I'm going to be fair, NGU does not stress the GPU too much, it's only the coil whine that scares me. The algorithm is quite efficient actually.

I noticed a similar effect when applying very heavy FX on very large images (>8000x8000 pixels) in photoshop...

Will keep testing.

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do you have dx11 enabled with v-sync?
how high are your queues?
Also try software decoding

On Sapphire 390 Nitro I actually see lower temps and twice as lower loads than NNDI3 even at 16. Also coil whine is usually brand disease Asus messes up every second generation, Gigabyte, EVGA on lower end models has it almost every time they cheap out on inductors(EVGA cheaped out on vrm several cards blew up).
It won't get solved, it is your videocard problem you probably do not play many demanding games to notice.

Let's see, I will try playing with vSync and GSync - I usually have both turned off since they're a pain to see, maybe fast Vsync could fix the problem....

Queues are max possible, I think I have not tried software decoding yet, just to keep presenting times as low as possible.

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An issue like coil whine must be why I'm not compelled to buy expensive GPUs, that and unnecessarily loud cooling systems. I can only assume people are protective of their investment to blame MadVR on coil whine.
It's only NGU and some really specific tasks that cause coil whine... A GPU is a tool made to be used to achieve something, if it fails achieveing it's purpose, it's not worth the bother. But at this rate, I don't want destroy-ing the GPU if I can avoid it. If only a specific task stresses the GPU in the way necessary to create coil whine, maybe that specific task is best to be avoided. Something like I fear it can break just a tiny piece on the GPU while it does not stress the GPU very bad...
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Old 24th November 2016, 10:15   #40690  |  Link
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same behavior. NNEDI is ignored and it only uses the normal image upscaler.
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Old 24th November 2016, 10:19   #40691  |  Link
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Georgel lower queues to default 8, this might be why GPU is over spinning. It doesn't do anything performance wise anyway.

Coil whine is not dangerous, it's just annoying. Simply what happens is vibration of inductor it doesn't increase the temperature or lowers GPU life.
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same behavior. NNEDI is ignored and it only uses the normal image upscaler.
Switch from CUVID to DXVA2 CB In LAV.
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Old 24th November 2016, 10:34   #40693  |  Link
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Dig deeper, SVP team advises clearly to NOT install SVP with recent Nvidia drivers, they break the drivers, performance goes a lot down for the entire card.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2671
There is literally nothing like what youre talking about in that old thread. You are clearly the only one having this problem. Probably because u f**ked up some settings again....
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Old 24th November 2016, 10:40   #40694  |  Link
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There is literally nothing like what youre talking about in that old thread. You are clearly the only one having this problem. Probably because u f**ked up some settings again....
1st question: What do you mean by again?

2nd question: What's up with the aggressiveness?
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Georgel lower queues to default 8, this might be why GPU is over spinning. It doesn't do anything performance wise anyway.

Coil whine is not dangerous, it's just annoying. Simply what happens is vibration of inductor it doesn't increase the temperature or lowers GPU life.
I will try to see what happens!

When I read that the coil whine is caused by the physical vibrations of a certain component, I feared that it might mean the component would degrade faster..
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1st question: What do you mean by again?
From what ive seen you always use some weird settings that make no sense at all.

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2nd question: What's up with the aggressiveness?
What triggered you? Im not aggressive.
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From what ive seen you always use some weird settings that make no sense at all.


What triggered you? Im not aggressive.
I just posted a friendly advice that should be posted everywhere.

SVP will break Nvidia drivers and only fresh reinstall of drivers will fix it. This is what happened to me and could happen to anyone. It is a friendly advice, no need to attack me, if it works for you and you're 100% sure it does, good, but it might break some people's setup and it's hard to fix.
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SVP will break Nvidia drivers and only fresh reinstall of drivers will fix it. .
Thats like... your opinion. You act like its a fact while there is nothing on the internet to support your claim. If someone disagrees with you it doesnt mean that they're attacking you, lul. Friendly advice: dont change setting you're not sure/know nothing about. Use DDU in safe mode to delete your old video driver if you want to reinstall or update it.
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I will try to see what happens!

When I read that the coil whine is caused by the physical vibrations of a certain component, I feared that it might mean the component would degrade faster..
How long do you plan to keep it?
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Thats like... your opinion. You act like its a fact while there is nothing on the internet to support your claim. If someone disagrees with you it doesnt mean that they're attacking you, lul. Friendly advice: dont change setting you're not sure/know nothing about. Use DDU in safe mode to delete your old video driver if you want to reinstall or update it.
Thanks, but yes, I know how to use DDU, and I;m not exactly an un experienced user...

At the same time, I know for a fact that SVP broke my Nvidia drivers a few times, tried configuring it, still happens.

What happens is a video plays, but it crashes at random times. IT keeps on crashing even after uninstalling SVP.

This is a known problem over at SVP, whether you can find it or not is a matter of what you searched for. This happened to me on multiple configurations with multiple settings even on default settings(GTX 960M, GTX 1080), with or without any OC.

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How long do you plan to keep it?
The card?

As long as possible, it does it's job just fine. 2-3 years would be great, maybe 4 if I won't need to push it more..

I'm not even close as enthused about Skylake 6700K tho..
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