MeGUI development - Page 132

Sharktooth · 9th November 2006, 04:33

@berrinam: what's left to do to complete the refactor?
there are a couple of thing that arent working like the avisynth script creator...

Mutant_Fruit · 18th November 2006, 03:07

Heya,

I just thought this might be interesting for making MeGUI support multi-machine encoding.

http://www.monoboss.com/details.html

It's basically a fully fledged framework for adding/removing/tracking nodes with fail detection and recovery. It could more than likely be used to pass pieces of a file out to different computers for encoding etc.

Doom9 · 18th November 2006, 11:33

Well.. I can't shut up any longer: multi machine / clustered encoding goes WAAAAAAYYY beyond the 80/20 rule. It goes so far you can't even see the line anymore.

Romario · 18th November 2006, 18:47

What's 80/20 rule, Doom9?

foxyshadis · 19th November 2006, 13:27

Indeed, the only way megui should support clustering should be by calling a program that mimics x264 and passes its arguments on to the real clustering tools, like ELDER and x264farm. Or, at best, a new "codec" that just creates a slightly different command line customized for one of the clustering engines, the way sharktooth wants to add ELDER support.

Romario: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

Sharktooth · 19th November 2006, 14:46

Indeed. I already asked tobias if he wants to implement ELDER in megui.
x264farm is also good though, but only for x264.

check · 20th November 2006, 14:13

May I chime in with a reminder about berriman's old proposal to separate the megui job control from the rest of the logic? Something like this would give a completely extensible interface upon which people could build their own frontends for whatever they want. I have something like this written in python currently brewing on my hard drive, but I'd switch to the megui job control backend in a flash, it's far more capable than my efforts.

dimzon · 20th November 2006, 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romario

What's 80/20 rule, Doom9?

The misnamed Pareto principle (also known as the 20-80 rule, the law of the vital few and the principle of factor sparsity) states that for many phenomena 80% of consequences stem from 20% of the causes.

Some Sample 80/20 Rule Applications

80% of process defects arise from 20% of the process issues.
20% of your sales force produces 80% of your company revenues.
80% of delays in schedule arise from 20% of the possible causes of the delays.
80% of customer complaints arise from 20% of your products or services. (MeGUI applicable)

As explained example - 80% of MS Word users use only 20% of it's functionality

How can we put the 80-20 principle to good use? The key to 80-20 is not time-management. Don't try to do more. Just do more of the right things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_rule
http://www.gassner.co.il/pareto/
http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=988291
http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com...eto-principle/

Sharktooth · 20th November 2006, 14:44

Eh... if italians weren't so good...

bob0r · 21st November 2006, 10:26

We wouldn't have an Enzo Ferrari.

JarrettH · 26th November 2006, 22:42

Suggestion!

So I'm trying to encode an xvid using meGUI and one of the xvid profiles. The 1st pass errors out instantaneously. I figured it out quite easily the quant matrices (EQM) for xvid are missing from the autoupdater. The path on the hard drive it points to is extras/eqm_v3hr.xcm. Even if you have xvid installed it doesn't come with the EQM matrices.

Sharktooth · 27th November 2006, 05:19

laksman91 · 27th November 2006, 05:35

i have problem with megui. When i put something to encode (.avs) with x264 and i tried with XVID codecs, for over 24hours i got 0/xxxx Frames analyzed and i dont recieve an FPS i just get "FPS" and Estimated time is N/A

The avs works flawlessly in VDub, i'm leaning towards maybe an error w/ my MeGUI config. ?

Sharktooth · 28th November 2006, 19:35

this is not the bugreport thread.

Adub · 2nd December 2006, 08:01

Man, and I got all excited because I thought there was an upswing in development.

People, Read the guides, Use Search, and for Good sake, Post in the right forum!
If you have a problem with Megui, post it elsewhere.

Thank you.

miztadux · 12th December 2006, 16:55

Hello,

Thanks for all the work you did with this great app....I got a question for people with knowledge of MeGui source code...

I tried to "port" x264 MeGUi profiles by Sharktooth to my transcoding app (a lame homebrewed perl script).
To do so i looked at the MeGui source and tried to extract the bits that translate the profile/settings to a x264 commandline.
I found most of the code was in "CommandLineGenerator.cs", in particular the two methods "x264TriStateAdjustment", "generateX264CLICommandline"...

So basically I ported the "x264Settings" class and the two aforementioned methods in my script, and had the script do:
- load the MeGUI profile in a x264Settings "object" (no more an object in my sloppy code...)
- set "BitrateQuantizer" and "Logfile" to some correct values depending on the source/settings.
- for each pass:
* use a copy of the loaded settings
* set "EncodingMode" to an appropriate value (//comments in generateX264CLICommandline)
* run "x264TriStateAdjustment" on those settings
* run "generateX264CLICommandline" on those settings to get the cmdline
* run the pass...

I'd like to ask if I've missed something that MeGUI does with the profile/settings before feeding them to the "generateVideoCommandline" method, perhaps setting the value of some parameters based on some properties of the source ? (i'm no .net expert and did a sloppy job, i'm pretty sure i did something wrong

)

In particular, I didn't have much time to test my code, but i saw that x264 displayed a warning like "--vbv-maxbitrate specified but no value for --vbv-buffersize" using the "HQ-Slow" profile...and actually i didn't find where, in the code ,"VBVBufferSize" value would have been changed (except manually in the control panel)...
(VBVBufferSize is "-1" in the profile, so it won't be in the command line as "if (xs.VBVBufferSize > 0)..." )

Sorry for my English (i did the best i could

) or if this post doesn't belong here.
Thanks for any help....

PS: For now, I completely skipped the "AVCLevels" class, as I though it was only used if "Level" is different from "15" in the profile, but is it used somewhere else in the process ??

nightrhyme · 15th December 2006, 01:06

Any word on when the updates on the server will be fixed ?

This is as far as the update procedure goes. have let it hang for an hour.

Do we still need NEROAACenc ? because it can't update that either ?

Tried running a job. But it just sits there. No progress.

Sharktooth · 15th December 2006, 01:32

There should be an hidden window... try moving around the autoupdate and the megui window...
you should find an import profiles window...
select the profiles you wanna import and go on.
neroaacenc should be update manually. you can turn of the error message by clicking with the rigth mouse button over neroaacentry in the autoupdate...

nightrhyme · 15th December 2006, 01:52

Thanx for reply.

Ok I almost got it.
Regarding manual update of neroaacenc:
So I just take the neroaacenc dll from nero directory ? and put where ?

Sharktooth · 15th December 2006, 02:17

no.. you need the nero digital aac encoder binary (exe). it's available at nero website for free: http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Audio.html
place it in the C:\Program Files\megui\tools\neroaacenc folder (or wherever you installed megui)

9th November 2006, 04:33	#2621 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	@berrinam: what's left to do to complete the refactor? there are a couple of thing that arent working like the avisynth script creator... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

18th November 2006, 03:07	#2622 \| Link
Mutant_Fruit Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 287	Heya, I just thought this might be interesting for making MeGUI support multi-machine encoding. http://www.monoboss.com/details.html It's basically a fully fledged framework for adding/removing/tracking nodes with fail detection and recovery. It could more than likely be used to pass pieces of a file out to different computers for encoding etc. __________________ Nothing to see here...

18th November 2006, 11:33	#2623 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	Well.. I can't shut up any longer: multi machine / clustered encoding goes WAAAAAAYYY beyond the 80/20 rule. It goes so far you can't even see the line anymore. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

18th November 2006, 18:47	#2624 \| Link
Romario Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Qetchua mountains in Peru, and Klingon battlecruiser D'Mar Posts: 393	What's 80/20 rule, Doom9? __________________ Live long and prosperLive long and prosperLive long and prosper

19th November 2006, 14:46	#2626 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Indeed. I already asked tobias if he wants to implement ELDER in megui. x264farm is also good though, but only for x264. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

19th November 2006, 13:27	#2625 \| Link
foxyshadis Angel of Night Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tangled in the silks Posts: 9,559	Indeed, the only way megui should support clustering should be by calling a program that mimics x264 and passes its arguments on to the real clustering tools, like ELDER and x264farm. Or, at best, a new "codec" that just creates a slightly different command line customized for one of the clustering engines, the way sharktooth wants to add ELDER support. Romario: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

20th November 2006, 14:13	#2627 \| Link
check phjbdpcrjlj2sb3h Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,691	May I chime in with a reminder about berriman's old proposal to separate the megui job control from the rest of the logic? Something like this would give a completely extensible interface upon which people could build their own frontends for whatever they want. I have something like this written in python currently brewing on my hard drive, but I'd switch to the megui job control backend in a flash, it's far more capable than my efforts. __________________ CCCP \| MeWiki \| techouse's x264 builds \| Kovensky's mplayer builds

20th November 2006, 14:44	#2629 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	Eh... if italians weren't so good... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

21st November 2006, 10:26	#2630 \| Link
bob0r Pain and suffering Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,337	We wouldn't have an Enzo Ferrari.

26th November 2006, 22:42	#2631 \| Link
JarrettH Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 860	Suggestion! So I'm trying to encode an xvid using meGUI and one of the xvid profiles. The 1st pass errors out instantaneously. I figured it out quite easily the quant matrices (EQM) for xvid are missing from the autoupdater. The path on the hard drive it points to is extras/eqm_v3hr.xcm. Even if you have xvid installed it doesn't come with the EQM matrices. Last edited by JarrettH; 26th November 2006 at 22:44.

27th November 2006, 05:19	#2632 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	__________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

27th November 2006, 05:35	#2633 \| Link
laksman91 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1	i have problem with megui. When i put something to encode (.avs) with x264 and i tried with XVID codecs, for over 24hours i got 0/xxxx Frames analyzed and i dont recieve an FPS i just get "FPS" and Estimated time is N/A The avs works flawlessly in VDub, i'm leaning towards maybe an error w/ my MeGUI config. ?

28th November 2006, 19:35	#2634 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	this is not the bugreport thread. __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

2nd December 2006, 08:01	#2635 \| Link
Adub Fighting spam with a fish Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,699	Man, and I got all excited because I thought there was an upswing in development. People, Read the guides, Use Search, and for Good sake, Post in the right forum! If you have a problem with Megui, post it elsewhere. Thank you. __________________ FAQs:Bond's AVC/H.264 FAQ Site:Adubvideo

12th December 2006, 16:55	#2636 \| Link
miztadux Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 44	Hello, Thanks for all the work you did with this great app....I got a question for people with knowledge of MeGui source code... I tried to "port" x264 MeGUi profiles by Sharktooth to my transcoding app (a lame homebrewed perl script). To do so i looked at the MeGui source and tried to extract the bits that translate the profile/settings to a x264 commandline. I found most of the code was in "CommandLineGenerator.cs", in particular the two methods "x264TriStateAdjustment", "generateX264CLICommandline"... So basically I ported the "x264Settings" class and the two aforementioned methods in my script, and had the script do: - load the MeGUI profile in a x264Settings "object" (no more an object in my sloppy code...) - set "BitrateQuantizer" and "Logfile" to some correct values depending on the source/settings. - for each pass: * use a copy of the loaded settings * set "EncodingMode" to an appropriate value (//comments in generateX264CLICommandline) * run "x264TriStateAdjustment" on those settings * run "generateX264CLICommandline" on those settings to get the cmdline * run the pass... I'd like to ask if I've missed something that MeGUI does with the profile/settings before feeding them to the "generateVideoCommandline" method, perhaps setting the value of some parameters based on some properties of the source ? (i'm no .net expert and did a sloppy job, i'm pretty sure i did something wrong ) In particular, I didn't have much time to test my code, but i saw that x264 displayed a warning like "--vbv-maxbitrate specified but no value for --vbv-buffersize" using the "HQ-Slow" profile...and actually i didn't find where, in the code ,"VBVBufferSize" value would have been changed (except manually in the control panel)... (VBVBufferSize is "-1" in the profile, so it won't be in the command line as "if (xs.VBVBufferSize > 0)..." ) Sorry for my English (i did the best i could) or if this post doesn't belong here. Thanks for any help.... PS: For now, I completely skipped the "AVCLevels" class, as I though it was only used if "Level" is different from "15" in the profile, but is it used somewhere else in the process ??

15th December 2006, 01:06	#2637 \| Link
nightrhyme º¿º XviD N00B º¿º Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 231	Any word on when the updates on the server will be fixed ? This is as far as the update procedure goes. have let it hang for an hour. Do we still need NEROAACenc ? because it can't update that either ? Tried running a job. But it just sits there. No progress. __________________ "We are all Newbies at something" -- NightRhyme

15th December 2006, 01:32	#2638 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	There should be an hidden window... try moving around the autoupdate and the megui window... you should find an import profiles window... select the profiles you wanna import and go on. neroaacenc should be update manually. you can turn of the error message by clicking with the rigth mouse button over neroaacentry in the autoupdate... __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!!

15th December 2006, 01:52	#2639 \| Link
nightrhyme º¿º XviD N00B º¿º Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 231	Thanx for reply. Ok I almost got it. Regarding manual update of neroaacenc: So I just take the neroaacenc dll from nero directory ? and put where ? __________________ "We are all Newbies at something" -- NightRhyme

15th December 2006, 02:17	#2640 \| Link
Sharktooth Mr. Sandman Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Haddonfield, IL Posts: 11,768	no.. you need the nero digital aac encoder binary (exe). it's available at nero website for free: http://www.nero.com/nerodigital/eng/Audio.html place it in the C:\Program Files\megui\tools\neroaacenc folder (or wherever you installed megui) __________________ MPEG-4 ASP Custom Matrices: EQM V1(old), EQM AutoGK Sharpmatrix (aka EQM V2), EQM V3HR (updated 01/10/2004), EQM V3LR, EQM V3ULR (updated 04/02/2005), EQM V3UHR (updated 17/12/2004) and EQM V3EHR (updated 05/10/2004) Info about my ASP matrices. MPEG-4 AVC Custom Matrices: EQM AVC-HR Info about my AVC matrices My x264 builds. Mooo!!! Last edited by Sharktooth; 15th December 2006 at 02:20.