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But to get even fair quality for a 22 minute episode you have to set the size to 100 MB I don't think most people would put more than 4 22 minute episodes on a CD, so that would work out to 175 MB or so, depending on the resolution. So what resolution are you using, and what kind of compression percentages is AutoGK giving you? And animation is much more difficult to compress than one might think. One of the problems is the dark lines that outline everything. And you'll often see all kinds of artifacts around them. And another problem is the solid masses of color which can often show as a bunch of blocks of similar colors. One way to improve them is to give them a higher bitrate (i.e., a larger file size). |
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Am I right to assume: - if burnt in subs selected they always burnt in (given that you dealing with first PGC) - if external subs are selected then sometimes winrar is not found - in those cases when switching to internal subs causes no subs at all to be displayed I might now what can be wrong in third case (have to check that). @All I'm gonna start using naming convention from DVDDecrypter for Angle & PGC selection, so all those related problems should be gone at some point. (Also looks like DVDDecrypter 3.1.8 changed structure in stream info file for subs, so you might get weird results with that)
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Hi len0x,
Before anything, congratulations for GKIF4U (now AutoGK) !! I've found a issue with hybrid sources (x-files episodes for example, in this log, season 1 - episode 2), the final avi "skip some frames", take a look in the logs (btw, I'm no video expert, so forgive me if I'm completly wrong about this subject) : [28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 37,25 [28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 80,24 [28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 10,94 [28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 8,82 [28/12/2003 05:06:01] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM). Why don't add a option in the adveced menu, like "What to do if it's Hybrid: ()Auto ()IVTC ()Normal. By normal I mean don't use IVTC and leave the output avi at 29.97fps. The auto option would be safe for begginers. I know that, as you state clearly in the logs, it's mostly FILM, but the progressive pattern won't look any good in the resulting AVI and I'd rather have a non optinal compression using 29.97, than have this effect of skiping frames. Yes, I know that I can use GordianKnot (and I do), and that you don't wanna make AutoGK as complex as the original GK, but I think it would make AutoGK even better, and able to generate perfect AVIs, even when using hybrid sources. What do you think about it ? |
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Since I had a hand in recommending what to do about hybrid sources, I feel partly responsible for what you're seeing. As you know, hybrids are real hard to make look good in .avi. If it were MPEG2, then you could go ahead and encode it as interlaced for playback on a TV, but with .avis, you can't. Neither of the choices you have are that good. According to that log, you've got about 91% progressive, IVTCable material, and you IVTC that and it looks good. The remaining 9% or so is interlaced, and Decomb's Mode=3 will make it look better than a straight IVTC (not quite as jerky), but the blending it does to make it play more smoothly is far from perfect, and will leave those video portions still slightly jerky, like it's missing frames. But there are 2 alternatives left if you want to make the whole thing 29.97. One is to use Decomb's Mode=1 (as AutoGK would do if the result were hybrid (mostly VIDEO)). That deinterlaces the video portions, and they'll play reasonably smoothly. But with that remaining 91%, it IVTC's and then adds back another frame by blending together 2 adjacent frames. The result there is that the whole thing is 29.97fps, but 91% of that plays blurry because of the blended frames, and it will also stutter very slightly, because of the added blended frame in every 4 frames. In addition, you take a real quality hit when encoding for the same file size, because you now have 25% more frames than before. And the other alternative is to deinterlace the whole thing, as you can do in GKnot. For me anyway, that's a really lousy choice, because not only are you deinterlacing the 9% video, but also the other 91% progressive frames. And the end result is not so good, in my opinion. I guess that's what you're doing when you use GKnot for the X-Files, or other hybrid material. It's a tough call. Personally, I'd rather get 23.976fps, have a higher quality for the same file size, and put up with the slight jerkiness during the video portions. I understand your point of view that you really don't like the "skipping frames". But none of the solutions are really any good. But I can't speak for len0x, and maybe he'll have something to say about it. I think it would make AutoGK even better, and able to generate perfect AVIs Better men than you or I have attempted to solve this problem, and I don't think anyone has yet generated perfect .avis. If you search up in the AviSynth forum on this subject, you should find quite a few threads about this subject. Also, the Decomb Help file has more information about Decimate's Mode=1 and Mode=3 |
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A bit too much cropping?
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I just finished T3 with 640 width. Output was 640x256. Seems to me that 7 lines were cropped from the source, originally anamorphic 720x357 (black bars cropped). Is this guess of mine (cropping of 7 lines) correct? if it is, don't you think it may be a little too much? (about 2%) It certainly gives you the most perfect AR, and precludes some rounding limitations of certain filters, but maybe that idea of encoding little back bars to keep the whole height may be revisited. What do you think?
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And it's difficult to keep black bars, coz crop is done automatically via autocrop plugin, so i really don't have much freedom in this process (I supply just AR I want to keep and that's it). And if I'm not mistaken autocrop will never leave black bars, but only can keep certain AR... P.S. any news on those subs problems of yours ?
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Just curious if you have any ideas about the two issues I have run into.
1) forced subtitles issue. Being the nooby that I have not been able to determine whether this is the same issue that R6D2 is asking about. It looks like it is, but I can't tell for sure. If so what additional testing could I do to help sort out the problem? Here's a link to my description of the forced subtitle issue: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...&pagenumber=26 Issue #1 Resolved Just had to figure out that the Subtitles identified as Spanish (third set of Spanish subtitles no less) were the right ones for forced subtitles even though they weren't identified as such. 2) file not found error with DVD2AVI via AutoGK, but DVD2AVI works fine standalone on PII 450Mhz dual processor system. I have since installed it on an additional system that is single processor with W2K SP4 and it works there as well. I have another PII 450Mhz dual processor system. So I will test it on it as well to see what the scoop is. Do you think it could have anything to do with the RAID 5 subsystem? all of the single proc systems are all running on IDE drives. If any one has any ideas please let me know and I will do what ever testing any one suggests for either of these two issues. Thanks! AZEncoder Last edited by AZEncoder; 5th January 2004 at 19:06. |
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(1) There is a small bug in AutoCrop docs. The order of parameters is wrong. A fixed doc version is included with FACAR. But if that does not work as expected, you may try just use log mode, read the AutoCrop.log file (get top and height), and use regular crop afterwards and AddBorders to pad the bottom (or evenly spread the black bars among top and bottom) to have Mod 16 height (I do that in FACAR to support "As Seen on TV" mode). Quote:
If I check external subs I get a not detected message and the check button unchecks itself. The .params file is empty and no index file gets created, even though DVD2SVCD finds correctly the subs reading the same VOBs. Tried forced subs only with no luck either. I thought it might have something to do with preview mode, so I started doing preview always. But the result is the same. Perhaps it is related to the third case you mention. If you want me to do specific tests please don't hesitate to ask.
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I've found a workaround for the bug that prevents AutoGK from finding Winrar for the external subtitles.
The problem is that the Registry key that AutoGK detects is not the path to Winrar but the path to the start-up folder. Upon installation of Winrar the two are the same , but since Winrar remembers the last used folder and sets it to be the startup folder then this key will quickly change. The workaround is simple .. open Winrar and browse to the Winrar folder and then close winrar. Now the startup folder contains the winrar .exe and AutoGK will find Winrar. You can also make this startup folder setting permanent by editing Winrar's setting , while we wait for Len0x to fix AutoGK and make it detect the correct registry key. |
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hiho, using DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 i recognized, that i no more got the "Stream Information.txt", now it has the vob name in front of it, like "VTS_01 - Stream Information.txt". So the think is, that AutoGK doesn't recognize the folder as a dvd decrypter ripped one. don't know, if ther's a dvddecrypter option to change...
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Hi len0x,
first, thanks for this awesome tool. One Problem I am having. I tried to encode HERO DVD to XviD with different quality settings (max, 3cd, 70%), but on my stand alone device Centrum Gemini 330 I get a lot of white ripple effects in the picture. For example when there is white text running from bottom to top it looks like the letters are dragged through milk. I don't know how to better explain it. When I do the same encode in DivX it works. So far I haven't had any problems with XviD and the only thing I can conclude from the change log is that you turned on Chroma Optimization by default. I never used that before. On the PC everything looks fine. I would much rather be using XviD especially after reading doom9's new comparison this morning. The Problem with the DivX clip is that I can not forward or rewind it on my player. Also the first time that happened. I am very much looking forward to donate for the 1.0 version. Thanks for sharing such a great app with us. |
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Happy new year ! Quick question. A weeks ago there was a question mark over the future of the 'target quality' encode option. ie 1 pass. I understood that it was going to be dropped from the xvid codec. I currently use this option for alot of my encode and go for about 67% quality+ac3 sound. I probably should start using 2 pass if it's on the way out. wertert |
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe\Path While you should be reading : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe\@ I exported the section from my registry and it looks like this : [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\WinRAR.exe] @="C:\\Program Files\\WinRAR\\WinRAR.exe" "Path"="C:\\Program Files\\WinRAR\\" Previously "Path" pointed to a different path and it wouldn't work but I'm using the workaround now and so "Path" points to the folder that contains Winrar.exe Now I have no problems encoding external subtitles .. other than that I'm currently unable to encode the subtitles from one of my DVD rips but I guess that is because I used DVDdecryptor 3.1.8.0 to rip it and as you say it has a slightly different format. I'll wait until you release a version soon that is compatible with this new format. External subtitles rocks btw .. Unlike subtitles that are encoded into the movie I can place theese under the moviepicture as God had intended it This way they don't disturb the picture and the feature scales down gracefully as standalones simply leave them be. I don't care about standalones anyway - I don't own one and neither do anyone I know. In fact I have never seen one and they are only sold in few places. All the people I know watch Xvid/DivX movies on PC's , either using monitors or TVout. Though you are going to encode the subtitles into the movie, could it be encoded like DirectVobSub renders it with the Poloygonize option turned ON ? It looks much better this way , and I believe that this is the way that most subtitles look on the original DVD. BTW Happy Newyears to all ! Cheers ! - CeeJay |
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I have just finished a 2 CD encode of "Ciderhouse" with danish subtitles and about 1h 20m into the movie the subtitles disappears. Up to the end at 2h 00m there are no subtitles. This flaw is present both in a 1 CD encode I did first and in the unsplit 2 CD encode and the split version. Shall I post some files to help diagnose the problem ? If so .. which ? |
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Hi there.
First of all, congratulations for your work len0x I have a problem though, I'm ripping the episodes of Buffy, The Vampire Slayer (seasons 1,2,3) which are interlaced. I tried to rip those episodes with GordianKnot 0.28.5 with TransMoComp filter, and everything worked out just fine. But with AutoGKNOT what happens is that the AVI created (and with gordian knot 0.28.8 transmocomp's filter this also happens) has some frame like this: I have GordianKnot 0.28.5 and this isn't happening, which is weird because I think TransMoComp filter is the same in both GordianKnot versions. With AUTOGKNOT I don't have any tought. If somebody could help me, I would apreciate. PS: I'm Portuguese, sorry for my bad English. |
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Feature Request: Avi input
I recently purchased a standalone player that of course doesn't accept features such as qpel and gmc. I know it isn't recommended to reencode but for a newbie like myself this seems to be the only way to achieve compatibility of some of my backups, in which case it would be nice if AutoGK would accept avi input. Since AutoGK is already tuned for standalone compatibility this would help people like myself salvage those backups. Time would not be of much concern. I don't know if there is a simplier and/or quicker way to do this but AutoGK has great for me on my DVD backups. Thx for your efforts, |
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Forced Sub's
First let me say that I am stoked. I mentioned in an earlier message that AutoGK had inspired me to learn more about the tools and get to the point where I could learn to capitalize on regular "GK". That point in time came today wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!! What a great way to close out the year. Encoded a movie today with GK, it looks great and sounds great. I know that I have a long way to go to learn all of the "deep dive" details, but it feels great to understand the basic usage of the different tools and be able to take off the training wheels of AutoGK. I plan on using AutoGK for a very long time considering it works superbly in 99% of the circumstances.
I have some additional clues in my effort to figure out what is going on with the forced subtitles in "Die Another Day". First I had to figure out what I was doing wrong with VobSub. Here is what I discovered. If others have enlightenment please comment. manono gave me some tips (thx manono) on how to use VobSub to find forced sub's, well none of the forced sub's showed up in VobSub with the forced sub indicator, instead there was an additional sub that contained nothing but a gray block right before a cell where all of the sub's should be forced. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Is this an additional standard way of doing forced sub's? I will be experimenting with VobSub in order to figure out how to get it encoded correctly. Thanks for all of the hard work by len0x and all of the other "Tool Wizards" I hope everyone's 2004 is a rewarding and fun year!!! AZEncoder |
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I want to applaud your efforts in making a FoolProof tool for encoding Divx and Xvid videos, I have been trying to learn how to do this regular GK. AutoGK will help me to understand what I am doing with regular GK. @AZEncoder I have been working with the Die another Day DVD and I am seeing what you have seen with it. In AutoGK in the subtitle drop-down list I have found that the correct (English Forced Subs) subtitles to use are the third or fourth Spanish subtitles in the list. Now when I do a preview of the video in AutoGK it looks fine and plays the video and Subs fine and in sync. When I run the encode, the resulting video is great and the first few instances where the subs should be are fine. When you get about the middle of the movie the subs are out of sync. Now that I have found the right track anyone know why the subs would be out of sync with AutoGK? I am using AutoGK version 0.8 on a 1.5 GHz AMD 512 DDR, 100gb drive with WinXP Pro. |
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You are correct that it is the third set of Spanish subtitles that are really the English forced subtitles. Thanks for pointing that out. I missed that one (major brain cramp). I re-did the encode with AutoGK using the third set of "spanish" subtitles a.k.a. English forced subtitles and it turned out just the way it was supposed to. Now as far as your suggestion that I might help you figure out how to get the subtitles for the rest of the movie back in synch. I am experimenting but, because of my relative inexperience and newness to the details and intricacies of VobSub and it's re-sync capabilities I don't have an answer yet. Perhaps someone else has enough knowledge that they could shorten both of our learning curves. I will continue to fiddle with it, but it may take a while to figure out. Quote:
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I just ripped The Matrix as test because I get a post on the Dutch forum that there were no subtitles and that is right! I ripped with DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0. AutoGk(0.8) says no subtitles. I think the problem was known, but I just tell it again to be sure! Hope you kan fix it. Greetz, Zerocoolnl
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I know splitting is not that difficult but if you are aiming at newbies I believe it would be handy to include it as an option for both the Custom Size and Target Quality selections. Perhaps it could be an intelligent selection. As I understand it, custom sizes of 700 MB, 1400 MB & 2100 MB will split automatically. So if these values are selected the Split option is grayed out. Say I can overburn to 713 MB and select 1426 MB or 1420 MB (to allow for keyframe vageries) as a custom size to do a 2 CD job. Then the Split option would be available, defaulting to 700 MB as the initial CD capacity value.
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quote "IF you are converting something from mpeg1, 2, any divx codec or variant thereof, and anything other than uncompressed rgb or huffyuv in rgb mode, and not doing any filtering in vitualdub, you should use FAST RE COMPRESS mode."
unquote Does autoGK use fast recompress or full processing mode ...as fast recompress is supposed to be much faster??
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anyway for my situation i need more options for the audio i'm doing my first encode with autogk as we speak, and i set the audio to 64kbps i'm assuming its stereo the content i'm encoding only needs mono audio... hope its not too much to ask , lower bitrates, audio output channel selection. thanks for the amazing (and free) program Last edited by manono; 3rd January 2004 at 08:04. |
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