Is there a 64bit version of SubtitleEx?

[JackBrody]

I have installed Avisynth+ 3.4 along with ffms2.dll (for FFmpegSource2 - I work with AVC MP4 files), VirtualDub and MPC-HC, everything in 64bit on my Windows 7 SP1 x64. All this works smooth.

I'd like to use external filter SubtitleEx but I can only find 32bit library.

Is there a 64bit version available somewhere?

Or am I supposed to get back to 32bit Avisynth and everything?



PS: the same with KenBurnsEffect, only 32bit library available as well...

[StainlessS]

Most known x64 plugs here on wiki:- http://avisynth.nl/index.php/AviSynth%2B_x64_plugins
Zoom (req for KenBurns thingy) is last in list.

There are a few more x64 archives just below zoom at end of page.

[johnmeyer]

AVISynth 64-bit can't run 32-bit plugins? I never bothered to change to 64-bit (I hesitate to even call it an "upgrade") because I saw zero likelihood of any improvement. However, I'm not in any way berating the OP's decision to do so, and am only wondering if it is really true that when you go to the 64-bit version that you are totally cut off from using any 32-bit plugins.

I assume you can still use Groucho's AVISynth switcher to go back and forth (from 32- to 64-bit) if you can't get 32-bit plugins to work any other way.

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by johnmeyer

AVISynth 64-bit can't run 32-bit plugins?

No, it can't.

[johnmeyer]

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

No, it can't.

Thanks for that clarification.

[qyot27]

Originally Posted by johnmeyer

I assume you can still use Groucho's AVISynth switcher to go back and forth (from 32- to 64-bit) if you can't get 32-bit plugins to work any other way.

32-bit and 64-bit DLLs are installed at the same time (32-bit in SysWow64, 64-bit in System32), there's no need for any switching. Load up the regular 32-bit VirtualDub.exe, it sees the 32-bit version. Load VirtualDub64.exe, it sees the 64-bit.

It's not just a limitation of 64-bit AviSynth+ that it can't load 32-bit stuff.

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by JackBrody

I'd like to use external filter SubtitleEx but I can only find 32bit library.

Is there a 64bit version available somewhere?

My search returned nothing. Also, even with the wayback machine, no source to be found (even though the author made it available back in the day).

[Reel.Deel]

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

My search returned nothing. Also, even with the wayback machine, no source to be found (even though the author made it available back in the day).

I was also looking for a 64-bit version of this plugin some months ago. The source code for the original SubtitleEX is missing, however, there is source code for the updated SubtitleEx: http://hosiken.jp/dev/win/subtitleex.html

I hope someone can compile a 64-bit version

**Edit**
The author of SubtitleEx (kai) also had similar issues with the source code:
"Based on "SubTitleEx" created by Basilik Tournadski, which was released on a currently closed site called "mVideo Utilities", Japanese characters are garbled. In addition, a function to set the presence / absence of line breaks and line spacing has been added.

The source code of "SubTitleEx" has been released in the past, but it is not available now, and for some reason it is not left in the Internet Archive. Therefore, we created a plug-in with the same function as SubTitleEx based on DVTimeStampEx, a plug-in created by the same author that had the source code left in the Internet Archive, which happened to have the SubTitleEx character display engine."

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by Reel.Deel

I was also looking for a 64-bit version of this plugin some months ago. The source code for the original SubtitleEX is missing, however, there is source code for the updated SubtitleEx: http://hosiken.jp/dev/win/subtitleex.html

I hope someone can compile a 64-bit version

Good find. Here's a 64 bit test version. It seems to work fine but maybe someone else can give it a whirl.

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

Here's a 64 bit test version. It seems to work fine but maybe someone else can give it a whirl.

No feedback from the OP so I guess it's working?

[JackBrody]

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

No feedback from the OP so I guess it's working?

Sorry for not responding, I am finally here.

I gave it a try now. I only see troubles with negative values of x or y (positions on screen). According to the documentation they are supposed to align right, resp. to the bottom.

Try:

BlankClip().SubtitleEx("First line|Second line|Third line", x = -100, y = -100)

Half of the third line is under the bottom margin of the screen.

[Reel.Deel]

Originally Posted by Groucho2004

Good find. Here's a 64 bit test version. It seems to work fine but maybe someone else can give it a whirl.

Thanks, I'll give it a try in the coming days.

[wonkey_monkey]

Presumably someone could, in theory, write some kind of inter-process-communicating gizmo that could feed clips between 64-bit and 32-bit instances of Avisynth? Doesn't something similar already exist for feeding 64-bit applications from 32-bit Avisynth?

[Stereodude]

Originally Posted by wonkey_monkey

Presumably someone could, in theory, write some kind of inter-process-communicating gizmo that could feed clips between 64-bit and 32-bit instances of Avisynth? Doesn't something similar already exist for feeding 64-bit applications from 32-bit Avisynth?

It already exists. MP_Pipeline: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=163281

[StainlessS]

Originally Posted by Stereodude

It already exists. MP_Pipeline: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=163281

Yep, thanx, thats what I mean below

Also, cant remember what its called, but I think you can run eg 32 bit script from x64 Avs+ using AvsPipeMod [or named something like that, I've never tried it].

EDIT: The binary in MP_Pipeline link is dead, click source link and then Releases for Binary.

Binary link message

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[StainlessS]

As Qyot27 said.
Is no prob to have side by side x86 / x64 Avs+, just call the required version of eg VDub2.
PS-Pad [EDIT: A text/script editor], is 32 bit, but can have set up to start 32 bit MPC-HC, or eg 64 bit PotPlayer, it only starts the process with supplied avs filename
and so works with either 32 or 64 bit players.

I had also found SubtitleEx mod with source yesterday but had to go out, I was gonna have a go at compile, but groucho beat me, thanx Grouchy.

Also, cant remember what its called, but I think you can run eg 32 bit script from x64 Avs+ using AvsPipeMod [or named something like that, I've never tried it].

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by StainlessS

I had also found SubtitleEx mod with source yesterday but had to go out, I was gonna have a go at compile

There was some inline ASM in the source which I had to modify for x64. This works fine if you have a Intel C/C++ compiler but MSVC does not support inline ASM in x64. So, without the Intel compiler one would have to re-write that code to plain C/C++ or Intrinsics.

[StainlessS]

Ok, glad I did not have to attempt it, thanx.
TWriteAVI v2.0 has some assembler which I cannot convert to ASM/Intrinsics, I bet you could though [EDIT: Not that much really, think is in about 3 places, one place only a half dozen instructions]

EDIT: Not sure, I think Dogway recently wanted WAV output from Avs [think wanted from avs+ x64, x64 ver$ of TWriteAVI/TWriteWAV would have been able to do this].
SoundOut can output audio from Avs, but WAV file not available till some time later, TWriteWAV can be set to return on completion, so WAV available and usable on function return.

EDIT: TWriteAVI v2.0, https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...ight=TWriteAVI

EDIT: The problem ASSY stuff here:- https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...47#post1847647

[Groucho2004]

Originally Posted by StainlessS

TWriteAVI v2.0 has some assembler which I cannot convert to ASM/Intrinsics, I bet you could though

I'll have a look when I have a bit more time.

[StainlessS]

Mucho grouchyass