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Old 7th February 2007, 03:46   #21  |  Link
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So there's two different .SUP formats? Sounds a bit confusing...
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Old 7th February 2007, 09:47   #22  |  Link
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So there's two different .SUP formats? Sounds a bit confusing...
I don't know anything about the .sup format, but the subpicture streams are different. HD DVD sub has new commands, 8 bit RLE encoded bitmaps, etc.

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Old 8th February 2007, 00:49   #23  |  Link
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I've decoded the HD DVD subpicture stream:
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Old 8th February 2007, 01:48   #24  |  Link
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Yay! Good work Pelican9! Your genius is always inspiring, never tiring.

Now all that's left is to get it into a format that SubRip can OCR, then we'll be cooking with gas!
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Old 8th February 2007, 22:50   #25  |  Link
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@Pelican9

I would like to know a bit more about the HD-DVD subtitles spec so that we can improve SubtitleCreator and that it can eventually open (for viewing) HD sup files and also for generating new ones from srt files like it does for SD.

Could you please give some links and/or details about the HD-DVD subtitles'specification (new commands, 8 bit RLE encoded bitmaps, etc.)?

Thanks in advance
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Old 9th February 2007, 00:22   #26  |  Link
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Old 10th February 2007, 20:57   #27  |  Link
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SUPread v0.1 released

I've finished my HD SUP reader v0.1.
Download: SUPread

It can show the subpictures but works only with .sup/.pts files demuxed by EVO demux

Edit:
SUPread v0.11
- Custom background image (you can download this nice seal portrait)
- Options page
- Autosave all settings

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SUPread 0.2

Changes:

- Read 'traditional' format .sup files, .pts file not needed anymore
- Read both SD and HD subtitles
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don't work for me ...
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don't work for me ...
What do you mean?
Use the latest EVOdemux to create .sup file.
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What do you mean?
Use the latest EVOdemux to create .sup file.
yes ... PEVOB_1.Subpicture.00.sup (from batman begin HDDVD).
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yes ... PEVOB_1.Subpicture.00.sup (from batman begin HDDVD).
Could you give me a more specific error report?
What happens?
Any error message?
Smoke?
Fire?
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Could you give me a more specific error report?
What happens?
Any error message?
Smoke?
Fire?
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No work with the really last EVOdemux now ... sorry
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Oh, no!
I've checked the program and realized that I've made a big mistake: turn off the subpicture display function... :-(
Sorry!
I'll correct it tonight.
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SUPread v0.21

I've turned on the subpicture displaying...
SUPread v0.21

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Is there a chance we could use SubRip OCR engine ?

SubRip can take image sequence as Input. Image Sequence comes from DVDSupDecode.
So maybe you could export each image to BMP and create output text file just as DVDSupDecode does ?

Output text file starts with :
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;PEVOB_1.Subpicture.02.sup
FrameRate=23.976
Alpha=FFF0
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Result is text file in format
{frame_from}{frame_to}{VTS_01_0.20_000001.bmp}
If you want me to test anything, just ask ...
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I agree with Deckard2019; there's no reason to try re-doing an OCR engine when an already well-developed one exists: SubRip. The most efficient plan would be to output files which can be read by Subrip.
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Can SubRip handle bmps of any size?
Is it enough to save only the subpicture part or does SubRip need the full size picture (1920x1080)?
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Take a look at DVDSupEncode cli options.
Frame size seems to be full (720x576, 720x480, 352x240), defined in DVDSupEncode.ini.
Don't know if 1920x1080 bitmap res will then be a valid input for SubRip.

Maybe try to export @1920x1080 and feed SubRip with these bitmaps ?
If SubRip does not accept, try a PAL or NTSC resize ?
But I don't what the bitmap will look like after a resize ...
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If not, a basic bilinear resize to 720x480 should do nicely. Avisynth provides the function, can be done separately or internally.
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