Blu-ray and AACS - Page 11

K40 · 1st February 2007, 00:36

Hi mrazzido , thank you for the tip and the tool.
Will try it later ,i've got my BD-Burner just yesterday.
I noticed that a movie who is enforcing the region code does this only
together with a Softwareplayer.When the key is aviable
on the internet you can decrypt A and B enforced titels
without to change the region setting on the drive.
I did backup Terminator 2 , The Fifth Element and Lord of Wars.
BackupBluRay did need 4 hours for one movie.Is this usual
or is something wrong with my settings?

Adbear · 1st February 2007, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by K40

Hi mrazzido , thank you for the tip and the tool.
Will try it later ,i've got my BD-Burner just yesterday.
I noticed that a movie who is enforcing the region code does this only
together with a Softwareplayer.When the key is aviable
on the internet you can decrypt A and B enforced titels
without to change the region setting on the drive.
I did backup Terminator 2 , The Fifth Element and Lord of Wars.
BackupBluRay did need 4 hours for one movie.Is this usual
or is something wrong with my settings?

I've backed up some of mine too, and they can take a good few hours each

mrazzido · 1st February 2007, 14:34

i read the BD disk with DVDDECRYPTER "only read iso" to my hd (30-40mins) faster than with bblueray tool ,then mounted the CRYPTED movie with DM TOOLS , then use backupblueray with your virtual drive . backup 1200seconds for one movie.

PepsiLee2001 · 1st February 2007, 15:30

I got a problem.

there are three blu-ray titles have ths same hash code of CPSUnit00001.cci, but CPS Unit Key were different.

They are

Code:

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Terminator 2 : Judgment Day                   |00/00/00|61B0F7CCFB372F34BC729AE68575DD91

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Kingdom of the Heaven (Jap)                   |00/00/00|7154C66FC9F5FD261CDBED3663851479

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=XXX                                           |00/00/00|72B9A7683430B339DE99D37D05070A32

and another titles have the same problem

Code:

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=House of Flying Daggers                       |00/00/00|B45529FF11A2E82BC051FA9454A5B1E1

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=UltraViolet                                   |00/00/00|E3B97D702F712312F4CA28774579C087

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=S.W.A.T.                                      |00/00/00|CD2EA76C6FAC27971C937AB60E6DCD1B

mrazzido · 1st February 2007, 15:34

yeah pepsilee2001 i read this in the key thread dont know a solution for it , crazy that all files has same SHA1 :-/.

Momotte · 1st February 2007, 15:43

I guess it will require that for BD disk, that we use a different file / method to ID the disk. Taking the disk title and adding it to the sha1 might be a good idea...

2nd February 2007, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiLee2001

I got a problem.

there are three blu-ray titles have ths same hash code of CPSUnit00001.cci, but CPS Unit Key were different.

They are

Code:

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Terminator 2 : Judgment Day                   |00/00/00|61B0F7CCFB372F34BC729AE68575DD91

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Kingdom of the Heaven (Jap)                   |00/00/00|7154C66FC9F5FD261CDBED3663851479

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=XXX                                           |00/00/00|72B9A7683430B339DE99D37D05070A32

and another titles have the same problem

Code:

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=House of Flying Daggers                       |00/00/00|B45529FF11A2E82BC051FA9454A5B1E1

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=UltraViolet                                   |00/00/00|E3B97D702F712312F4CA28774579C087

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=S.W.A.T.                                      |00/00/00|CD2EA76C6FAC27971C937AB60E6DCD1B

Are the "MAC of PMSN" also the same for all discs?
It has been suggested using "MAC of PMSN" instead of SHA-1 for Blu-Ray since this would avoid any need of hash calculations in the software:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...339#post941339

And likewise for HD DVD the "TKF MAC" should be used instead of SHA-1.

HD Hell · 3rd February 2007, 01:59

Have muslix and janvitos "left the building" - I don't see much going on these days to finish BackupBluray? (scratches head).

Without Volume Unique Key, isn't this tool just a curiosity piece but will never go far?

Sorry if I sound like a grinch

I had just thought it would have been dusted now...

d121 · 3rd February 2007, 02:02

Used BackupBluray tool with installing JDK 6 java. But no luck. Everytime run backupbluray in DOS, the result is : Could not find Blu-ray source O:

O: is bluray drive.

Any suggestion?

blutach · 3rd February 2007, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Hell

Have muslix and janvitos "left the building" - I don't see much going on these days to finish BackupBluray? (scratches head).

Without Volume Unique Key, isn't this tool just a curiosity piece but will never go far?

Sorry if I sound like a grinch

I had just thought it would have been dusted now...

Almost all your posts do sound this way.

Plus, their whereabouts is not for you to enquire about. What business of yours is it? They are private people, as we all are. Learn to respect that. As well, they owe you nothing!

I truly think you need to revise the way you post here.

Regards

Adbear · 3rd February 2007, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdguru

Another news: Samsung Blu-ray player can't play BDMV on BD-R or BD-RE, so now I try on the Panasonic BD-10. This is the cause of the fault. (ps: i still have problem of 2 Gb m2ts rip, and now I try several disc)

I agree about the players, The samsung doesn't play the file structure on writable discs. But have no problems with ripping the discs

K40 · 8th February 2007, 01:56

I compared Region A + B enforced BluRay movies and
Region free movies.I watched the index.bdmv files with Winhex.
In enforced movies the 1. line is 49 4E 44 58 30 32 30 30..
In regionfree movies it's 49 4E 44 58 30 31 30 30..
When the original index.bdmv file of XMen3 is deleted and
a index.bdmv file of a codefree movie is inserted ,the message
this is a region A movie doesen't show up and some menues
and trailers start playing.Of course it's not working correctly
because the file is from another movie.
So i modified the first line of the original file to 31 but when i
tried to play the structur the message about region A , can't
play on this player appears.There is the same 31 , 32 pattern
in MovieObject.bdmv , .clpi and .mpls files.
Maybe it must be changed everywhere.
Any other ideas?

HyperHacker · 8th February 2007, 08:33

The fact that replacing that one file got it working tells us that no other files need changing. There are probably other places in that file, or possibly a checksum, that need to be adjusted as well. After changing that one byte, does it still play in whatever region it's supposed to play in?

mrazzido · 8th February 2007, 11:55

Hey!!

i think there is a checksum check or anything.

i compare some movie´s

Ice Age II Eur/Ger

Ice Age II Us

Monster House Ger/Eur

Monster and Ice age ii (eur) are region B movies.

i see that all Region B movies has 02 XX 40

and Region A has 01 XX 40

, Region free 00 XX 40

i play something with winhex and changed the bytes in the index.bdmv the movie doenst play then anymore in windvd. :-/ .

K40 · 8th February 2007, 15:23

If i change from 32 to 31 in the first line ,the movie plays
fine when the correct region is set in PWDVD 7.2 Ultra.
I don't have a BluRay drive connected to this PC,but
nevertheless i can change BluRay regions 5 times.
Then i have to uninstall/install PWDVD to have 5 changes again.
When i change the first values in the fifth line ,PWDVD also
can't play the structur anymore.
Question to mrazzido:Can you copy the index.bdmv and
MovieObject.bdmv from Ice Age2 US and paste them in the
EU version?Then something should be playable with region set
to A.

mrazzido · 8th February 2007, 16:00

when i put the us files into eur version it works , but the disc structure between us and eur is different, windvd start to play chapter "23". i need more us file to compare difference i have only the bdmv files from us ice age II here
(thx pepsilee2001) :-).

eur. MovieObject.bdmv file size ist over 100kb
us. MovieObject.bdmv file size under 20kb :-/

i have this movie in eur version , the furgitve , monster house , kingdom of the heaven , full metal jacket,ice age II.

if any one have other region of this movie´s make a rar file with all files inside the BDMV directory (without stream files) .-(. and contact me for email adress.

K40 · 8th February 2007, 16:43

Thank's for testing,i see, it doesen't matter if it's the same
movie or a different one.I tried 4 different Codefree bdmv sets
with A enforced XMen3 with region set to B.Once the trailer was playing,
with an other bdmv file only the menue loop or a alternate
scene.When i use the XMen bdmv with EU version of B forced
Kingdom of Heaven,it plays the second half of the movie when
region set to A.
So the only way would be if we find out how to modify the
bdmv file correctly.

guile · 10th February 2007, 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrazzido

i read the BD disk with DVDDECRYPTER "only read iso" to my hd (30-40mins) faster than with bblueray tool ,then mounted the CRYPTED movie with DM TOOLS , then use backupblueray with your virtual drive . backup 1200seconds for one movie.

Dvddecrypter won't work to create an iso for me. It just says "Disc not dvd". Any ideas? 3.5.4.0 Any help is MOST appreciated as this thing is CRAWLING!!

bob0r · 18th February 2007, 13:41

@guile try this:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...333#post955333

It's funny to see how HD and BD are now fully backupable, yet the size really makes this "process slow in many ways"

The studios should have pushed for 100 or more GB discs, better quality, less downloads.... i think the number of people downloading this would really have been very very low.

Spending all that AACS money on bigger discs would have been a better choise.... i think

hajj_3 · 18th February 2007, 13:49

bob0r, bigger size wont result in higher bitrates! it just means you can fit more video on a single disk e.g the office u.s s02 might be able to fit on 1 * 100GB blue-ray disc instead of several discs. the size increase would mainly be beneficial for pc use (backing up 100gb worth of data). as blue-ray and hd-dvd allow for about 3.5hrs ISH of video, films arent really over 3.5hrs.

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	i read the BD disk with DVDDECRYPTER "only read iso" to my hd (30-40mins) faster than with bblueray tool ,then mounted the CRYPTED movie with DM TOOLS , then use backupblueray with your virtual drive . backup 1200seconds for one movie. Last edited by mrazzido; 1st February 2007 at 14:36.

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HyperHacker Resident DRM Hater Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: International waters Posts: 242	The fact that replacing that one file got it working tells us that no other files need changing. There are probably other places in that file, or possibly a checksum, that need to be adjusted as well. After changing that one byte, does it still play in whatever region it's supposed to play in? __________________ Because Moogles pwn.

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1st February 2007, 00:36	#201 \| Link
K40 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 57	Hi mrazzido , thank you for the tip and the tool. Will try it later ,i've got my BD-Burner just yesterday. I noticed that a movie who is enforcing the region code does this only together with a Softwareplayer.When the key is aviable on the internet you can decrypt A and B enforced titels without to change the region setting on the drive. I did backup Terminator 2 , The Fifth Element and Lord of Wars. BackupBluRay did need 4 hours for one movie.Is this usual or is something wrong with my settings?

1st February 2007, 15:34	#205 \| Link
mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	yeah pepsilee2001 i read this in the key thread dont know a solution for it , crazy that all files has same SHA1 :-/.

1st February 2007, 15:43	#206 \| Link
Momotte Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 55	I guess it will require that for BD disk, that we use a different file / method to ID the disk. Taking the disk title and adding it to the sha1 might be a good idea...

3rd February 2007, 01:59	#208 \| Link
HD Hell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 19	Have muslix and janvitos "left the building" - I don't see much going on these days to finish BackupBluray? (scratches head). Without Volume Unique Key, isn't this tool just a curiosity piece but will never go far? Sorry if I sound like a grinch I had just thought it would have been dusted now...

3rd February 2007, 02:02	#209 \| Link
d121 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 48	Used BackupBluray tool with installing JDK 6 java. But no luck. Everytime run backupbluray in DOS, the result is : Could not find Blu-ray source O: O: is bluray drive. Any suggestion?

8th February 2007, 01:56	#212 \| Link
K40 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 57	I compared Region A + B enforced BluRay movies and Region free movies.I watched the index.bdmv files with Winhex. In enforced movies the 1. line is 49 4E 44 58 30 32 30 30.. In regionfree movies it's 49 4E 44 58 30 31 30 30.. When the original index.bdmv file of XMen3 is deleted and a index.bdmv file of a codefree movie is inserted ,the message this is a region A movie doesen't show up and some menues and trailers start playing.Of course it's not working correctly because the file is from another movie. So i modified the first line of the original file to 31 but when i tried to play the structur the message about region A , can't play on this player appears.There is the same 31 , 32 pattern in MovieObject.bdmv , .clpi and .mpls files. Maybe it must be changed everywhere. Any other ideas?

8th February 2007, 11:55	#214 \| Link
mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	Hey!! i think there is a checksum check or anything. i compare some movie´s Ice Age II Eur/Ger Ice Age II Us Monster House Ger/Eur Monster and Ice age ii (eur) are region B movies. i see that all Region B movies has 02 XX 40 and Region A has 01 XX 40 , Region free 00 XX 40 i play something with winhex and changed the bytes in the index.bdmv the movie doenst play then anymore in windvd. :-/ .

8th February 2007, 15:23	#215 \| Link
K40 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 57	If i change from 32 to 31 in the first line ,the movie plays fine when the correct region is set in PWDVD 7.2 Ultra. I don't have a BluRay drive connected to this PC,but nevertheless i can change BluRay regions 5 times. Then i have to uninstall/install PWDVD to have 5 changes again. When i change the first values in the fifth line ,PWDVD also can't play the structur anymore. Question to mrazzido:Can you copy the index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv from Ice Age2 US and paste them in the EU version?Then something should be playable with region set to A.

8th February 2007, 16:00	#216 \| Link
mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	when i put the us files into eur version it works , but the disc structure between us and eur is different, windvd start to play chapter "23". i need more us file to compare difference i have only the bdmv files from us ice age II here (thx pepsilee2001) :-). eur. MovieObject.bdmv file size ist over 100kb us. MovieObject.bdmv file size under 20kb :-/ i have this movie in eur version , the furgitve , monster house , kingdom of the heaven , full metal jacket,ice age II. if any one have other region of this movie´s make a rar file with all files inside the BDMV directory (without stream files) .-(. and contact me for email adress.

8th February 2007, 16:43	#217 \| Link
K40 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 57	Thank's for testing,i see, it doesen't matter if it's the same movie or a different one.I tried 4 different Codefree bdmv sets with A enforced XMen3 with region set to B.Once the trailer was playing, with an other bdmv file only the menue loop or a alternate scene.When i use the XMen bdmv with EU version of B forced Kingdom of Heaven,it plays the second half of the movie when region set to A. So the only way would be if we find out how to modify the bdmv file correctly.

18th February 2007, 13:41	#219 \| Link
bob0r Pain and suffering Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,337	@guile try this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...333#post955333 It's funny to see how HD and BD are now fully backupable, yet the size really makes this "process slow in many ways" The studios should have pushed for 100 or more GB discs, better quality, less downloads.... i think the number of people downloading this would really have been very very low. Spending all that AACS money on bigger discs would have been a better choise.... i think

18th February 2007, 13:49	#220 \| Link
hajj_3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,125	bob0r, bigger size wont result in higher bitrates! it just means you can fit more video on a single disk e.g the office u.s s02 might be able to fit on 1 * 100GB blue-ray disc instead of several discs. the size increase would mainly be beneficial for pc use (backing up 100gb worth of data). as blue-ray and hd-dvd allow for about 3.5hrs ISH of video, films arent really over 3.5hrs.