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Old 13th November 2017, 20:40   #14461  |  Link
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regarding eac3to capability of listing the playlists, is there a chance that it misses some of the extras on a standard BD or UHD?

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Old 15th November 2017, 12:49   #14462  |  Link
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Glad to hear that! I suppose you could also remux/demux with mkvtoolnix, so I'm not sure how useful the functionality in eac3to really is. But eac3to can change HEVC bitstream framerate on the fly (e.g. 23.976 <-> 24.000), not sure if other tools can do that.
Your demux function is more than important!!!!

Its the only way to get proper streams from seamless branching Blurays, and for Audios to remove the "dialnorm".
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Old 15th November 2017, 14:10   #14463  |  Link
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regarding eac3to capability of listing the playlists, is there a chance that it misses some of the extras on a standard BD or UHD?
IIRC, there's currently a limit set at 15 minutes. Any playlists shorter than 15 minutes are not shown.

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Your demux function is more than important!!!!

Its the only way to get proper streams from seamless branching Blurays, and for Audios to remove the "dialnorm".
Yes, of course. I was just wondering how useful the demuxing of HEVC video streams was. But it shouldn't harm (when working correctly), in any case, and maybe the framerate rewriting capability could be useful.
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Old 15th November 2017, 14:44   #14464  |  Link
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I was just wondering how useful the demuxing of HEVC video streams was. But it shouldn't harm (when working correctly), in any case, and maybe the framerate rewriting capability could be useful.
For the moment I have not seen a seamless branching UHD-Bluray, but it will be come and then we need the HEVC-demux function.
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Old 15th November 2017, 19:54   #14465  |  Link
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Using libdcadec decoder in place of Arsoft

Hi all. So just to make sure I'm getting all my information straight, if I use eac3to version 3.31 or 3.32 and convert a DTS HD-Master Audio file with dcadec I may or may not get the "XXL output not lossless" message but the same extensions in the master audio file will still properly get decoded to wav just like with Arcsoft?

I used to use Arcsoft decoder exclusively, but upon a new system build I'm having a bizarre error where 24-bit files are being decoded as a bit longer than the original resulting in a slow, muddled sounding file out of sync with the original. Am hoping dcadec can be my fix for this issue but definitely don't want to lose the lossless parts of the files, if possible.
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Old 16th November 2017, 10:16   #14466  |  Link
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Anyway, I'll probably wait until next weekend, to give others a chance to double check the test build, too, then I'll release a new official build.
Thanks madshi.
The .h265 files extracted with the new eac3to version seems play fine now.

But I don't know the h265 format to confirm than is bug free.
About the size of extracted streams:

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Samples/Size  eac3to3.32   eac3to3.33B  mkvextract   greater
-------       -----------  -----------  -----------  --------
Sample1       157.722.039  177.704.162  177.693.906  1,000058
Sample2       223.059.063  247.715.510  247.705.342  1,000041
Now the filesizes are a little greater than extracted by mkvextract but I don't know if it can be a problem.
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Old 16th November 2017, 10:21   #14467  |  Link
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Old 16th November 2017, 10:31   #14468  |  Link
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Thanks madshi.
The .h265 files extracted with the new eac3to version seems play fine now.

But I don't know the h265 format to confirm than is bug free.
About the size of extracted streams:

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Samples/Size  eac3to3.32   eac3to3.33B  mkvextract   greater
-------       -----------  -----------  -----------  --------
Sample1       157.722.039  177.704.162  177.693.906  1,000058
Sample2       223.059.063  247.715.510  247.705.342  1,000041
Now the filesizes are a little greater than extracted by mkvextract but I don't know if it can be a problem.
eac3to's h264/h265 bitstream parser requires there to be AUDs (access unit delimiters) between each frame. (UHD) Blu-Rays do have AUDs in the video bitstream. However, mkvtoolnix removes the AUDs when muxing the bitstream. When demuxing again, mkvextract doesn't add them back in. eac3to adds AUDs when demuxing MKVs, which is why eac3to's demux size is slightly bigger. That's nothing to worry about. It goes as far as eac3to not being able to parse the video bitstream extracted by mkvextract at all because the AUDs are missing, which makes the video unparsable to eac3to, because without AUDs eac3to doesn't know where one video frame starts and ends exactly. eac3to can parse the bitstream within MKV files without AUDs because the MKV container information defines where one video frame starts and ends.

A small size change could also come from rewriting the fps value. One sample I saw had 480000/20020 stored which eac3to replaces with 24000/1001. Such a replacement can in theory change the size of the video bitstream because the numbers are stored in a weird bitstream format.
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Old 16th November 2017, 13:42   #14469  |  Link
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Are you talking about decrypted or non crypted UHD discs ?

@ tebasuna51 : you often write than instead of that and nearly always forget the word it before is, no offense
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Are you talking about decrypted or non crypted UHD discs ?
What is the difference?
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If the original disc is not crypted, you don't have to decrypt it.
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Old 16th November 2017, 14:52   #14472  |  Link
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Ok, but what does that have to do with eac3to? eac3to does not decrypt.
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Old 16th November 2017, 15:08   #14473  |  Link
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I'm simply astonished that you talk about UHD demuxing, I didn't know that these discs could be copied.
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Old 16th November 2017, 15:18   #14474  |  Link
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You may want to google "DeUHD".
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Old 16th November 2017, 15:57   #14475  |  Link
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Thanks, this tool doesn't seem evoked in the decrypting part of the forum ;
https://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay...c&daysprune=75
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Old 18th November 2017, 04:11   #14476  |  Link
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IIRC, there's currently a limit set at 15 minutes. Any playlists shorter than 15 minutes are not shown.
Please, is it possible to allow us to set that value?! A lot of extras are actually less than 15 minutes.
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Old 18th November 2017, 10:22   #14477  |  Link
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Please, is it possible to allow us to set that value?! A lot of extras are actually less than 15 minutes.
This limitation is useful!

You can load each mpls separate with eac3to or
you can use my chapterEditor BD2mkv which shown more/all mpls(depend on the settings).
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Old 18th November 2017, 10:43   #14478  |  Link
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And also tsMuxer.
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Old 18th November 2017, 10:44   #14479  |  Link
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This limitation is useful!

You can load each mpls separate with eac3to or
you can use my chapterEditor BD2mkv which shown more/all mpls(depend on the settings).
Can I ask you why you think this limitation is useful?

Loading mpls is not a good idea since most of the time we are talking about multiple files w/o knowing where to start from. Just scanning for titles like 1 minute long titles will help us to demux those tracks also...

Regarding your tools, I appreciate what you do, I don't know much about them and how reliable they are compared to eac3to and MakeMKV, but I think using one app -i.e. eac3to- to do everything that I want for UHD BD/BD is much more convenient...

That should not stop me from wishing you all the best for your hard work, it is really good to see what you are doing...
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Old 18th November 2017, 10:48   #14480  |  Link
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And also tsMuxer.
Sorry was this a suggestion for the extra playlists?

If that's the case, does it support UHD? Is it still active? It looks dead to me...
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