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Old 24th June 2005, 22:04   #21  |  Link
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Hi! Great to hear that the comparison is coming back for 2nd round! Here is my suggestion, how about include the codecs's compressibility and performance (speed) in the comparison?
Coz in the last comparison, only the codecs's quality is tested. In my opinion, the compressibility and performance also is an important part of the codec (also the part we interested, besides quality).
Absolutely. Previous time codecs realy was not enough ready. Now situation was changed.

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In the last comparison, you guys said is too early to test the codecs's compatibility, so how about this time? In last comparison, Ateme MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 beat all the codecs who took part, let see what will happens this time when x264 kick in!
Maybe. In MP3 audio codecs area we see such situation with Lame codec.
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That's a pretty good job you've done with the list!

Just FYI: Thomson ViBE is a modular hardware series of encoders (not a software!)

You may also add some more hardware encoders:

SkyStream Mediaplex & iPlex platforms contain the AVC Encoder Submodule now

StreamTel E42-H264

Darim MV401EXP-H264 Encoder and MV410EXP Decoder

Mayah I [io] 8000 series - right now Mayah supports only MPEG-4 ASP but showed the H.264/AVC prototype at the NAB 2005, and plans to announce the AVC availability in Q3 '05.

Thales ARGOS MPEG-4 Encoder - was said to be available for sale with AVC feature in July.

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Ateme H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Codec (Ateme)
No download on original site:
http://www.ateme.com/products/h264.php
See Nero Recode from ftp://ftp.nero.com/
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the moonlight/elecard encoder is the same (defacto these two companies are only one company)
Not any more. Elecard team has been taken over by MainConcept. See here.
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There's 30 day free trial download of Nero Digital available:
http://www.nerodigital.com/eng/index.html
Does this meant that Nero Recode will separate from the NeroVision Express series? And NeroVision Express will not longer available? Or Nero Recode will included in both Nero Digital CE & Nero 6 Reloaded?

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Does this meant that Nero Recode will separate from the NeroVision Express series? And NeroVision Express will not longer available? Or Nero Recode will included in both Nero Digital CE & Nero 6 Reloaded?
Recode will be included in both packages.
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Old 28th June 2005, 17:21   #27  |  Link
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That's a pretty good job you've done with the list!
Just FYI: Thomson ViBE is a modular hardware series of encoders (not a software!)
You may also add some more hardware encoders: ...
Big thanks! I update list.
It's looks like number of companies on this market grows faster than I think!

http://www.compression-links.info/MPEG-4_AVC_H264 also updated
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New software solution added:

Compression Master 3 (Popwire/Teleca AB) NEW!!!
H264 encoder is all a part of Popwire's Compression Master. Demo soft available (encoding is limited to 20 seconds).
http://www.popwire.com/product_info....&products_id=2
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Old 29th June 2005, 10:01   #29  |  Link
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thx for the info ! sg really promising !

some questions :
- do i need showtime for playback or does recode install playback support available for othar players ?
- how's this recode relate to that just under beta testing ? would that be also available as a separate pack ?
- i found some strange on the trailer page. 'portable' defines as 352x288/512kbps/2.51Mb. instead sg of 5.2Mb size downloads and neither the resolution nor the bitrate meets the info. and the file generates runtime error about 95%.

thx again
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thx for the info ! sg really promising !

some questions :
- do i need showtime for playback or does recode install playback support available for othar players ?
- how's this recode relate to that just under beta testing ? would that be also available as a separate pack ?
- i found some strange on the trailer page. 'portable' defines as 352x288/512kbps/2.51Mb. instead sg of 5.2Mb size downloads and neither the resolution nor the bitrate meets the info. and the file generates runtime error about 95%.

thx again
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Well I'd need to verify what filters exactly the new Recode CE package installs, but I'd be surprised if you don't need to install Showtime for playback filters. I'll check this soon.
But in principle you don't need Showtime at all, if you install the latest ffdshow (and enable h.264 and aac decoding in ffdshow) and Haali Media Splitter (MatroskaSplitter). FFdshow shows ND subtitles somewhat strangely, but if you install the latest VSFilter, subtitles look ok. Hopefully ffdshow subtitle rendering will become better so you don't need even VSFilter anymore. That way you can have a free decoder and support for Nero Digital chapters,subtitles and multiple audio streams with any Dshow player.

Ateme provides the video coder for Nero Digital. The updated Ateme coder under beta testing will be included in Recode.
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Old 30th June 2005, 09:35   #31  |  Link
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thx for the answers ! i used the filters u suggested for playing back the trailers and everything worked fine.
maybe u know the very last ffdshow build from celtic_druid supports cqm and the deblocking part of h264 is also improved.
yep ... the subtitle part is a bit ... fuky ... in ffdshow but vsfilter is ok.

would u also take care of that broken trailer. what's linked as 'portable' is a broken version of the 'standard', my 1 bit.

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Intel IPP added. Good quality promised in future 5.0 version
Last year samples for July 2004 (we try to compile them - in early stage now) available from:
http://www.intel.com/cd/software/pro...ipp/220043.htm
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Added:
Sentivision H.264/AVC Decoder (Sentivision, Japan)
Chip with 264 HD decoding
http://www.sentivision.com/products/h264/h264-en.html
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Chip with 264 HD decoding
Well, this one is optimized only for TI TMS320C64x family, and still, this is only the decoder.
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Well, this one is optimized only for TI TMS320C64x family, and still, this is only the decoder.
Sure, I note this point in list more clearly now.
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Well, I kinda said it's "optimized only for TI TMS320C64x" and not "exists only for TI TMS320C64x". You can still run in under Windows/Linux/whatever with reasonable speeds (and full set of MP features)
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Well, I kinda said it's "optimized only for TI TMS320C64x" and not "exists only for TI TMS320C64x". You can still run in under Windows/Linux/whatever with reasonable speeds (and full set of MP features)
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Ok! I wrote - "Optmized for TI DSP's" As I see they have another TI chip optimization. Also IMHO there Windows version will have no big advantages (they did not declare such optimization).
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List update:
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direct link: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...420#post673420

49 list items now.

Enjoy!
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wow really a fucking great list! thx again!

btw "(Einige Fakten)" next to the free avc decoder means "some facts", you might want to remove this from the implementations name
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wow really a fucking great list! thx again!
btw "(Einige Fakten)" next to the free avc decoder means "some facts", you might want to remove this from the implementations name
))) Change to "by Martin Fiedler"
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