VSS H.264 VS Hdot264

Herculezz · 12th May 2003, 18:15

Anyone know the differences are they the same thing? Same Technology different people or what I have yet to have seen the quality and what not of hdot264 but I did test VSS's H.264 And It Seemed Very Promising?

Selur · 12th May 2003, 18:55

Same technology, different people, different ways of implementation,...

Probably it'll become some thing like DivX&Xvid, if we get lucky

Cu Selur

Ps.: In their slowest settings both implementations should give nearly give the same quality,..

Herculezz · 12th May 2003, 19:04

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Originally posted by Selur
Same technology, different people, different ways of implementation,...

Now I Saw Some Posts Somewhere Saying Hdot264 Was Dead? Is This True?

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Originally posted by Selur

Ps.: In their slowest settings both implementations should give nearly give the same quality,..

When You Saw Slow You REALLY Mean IT

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Originally posted by Selur

Probably it'll become some thing like DivX&Xvid, if we get lucky

Meaning Say VSS=Divx=NON Open Source And Hdot264=Xvid=Open Source?

Selur · 12th May 2003, 20:52

"Is This True? "
Don't know for sure, but hopefully not.

"Meaning Say VSS=Divx=NON Open Source And Hdot264=Xvid=Open Source?"
We'll see in the future,..

Cu Selur

Sirber · 12th May 2003, 22:40

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Originally posted by Herculezz
Meaning Say VSS=Divx=NON Open Source And Hdot264=Xvid=Open Source?

IMO, VSS != DIVX, as a compagny. It's a feeling, nothing to argue

And closed-sourced may be better than open-one, and the opposite is true too.

Right now VSS is faster then H.264, and also easyer to use.

Herculezz · 12th May 2003, 22:57

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Originally posted by Sirber

Right now VSS is faster then H.264, and also easyer to use.

When Saying VSS You Mean VSS's H.264 Codec, And When Saying H.264 You Mean Open Source Hdot264 Right?

BTW With my 1.5 GHZ Athlon I Get 1 FPS Encoding. And Playback is Extrememly Slow!! Thats With the VSS H.264 Codec. I have yet to use hdot264!!

Sirber · 12th May 2003, 23:27

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Originally posted by Herculezz
When Saying VSS You Mean VSS's H.264 Codec, And When Saying H.264 You Mean Open Source Hdot264 Right?

BTW With my 1.5 GHZ Athlon I Get 1 FPS Encoding. And Playback is Extrememly Slow!! Thats With the VSS H.264 Codec. I have yet to use hdot264!!

I mean VSS H264. It's slow, 0-2 FPS on mu 2000+, and playback isn't fullspeed. hdot264i sharder to use, and the dshow doesn't work.

Selur · 13th May 2003, 07:00

"and the dshow doesn't work."
and vss dshow filter is also to slow atm,...

(hoping for Beta3 ..)

Cu Selur

Sirber · 13th May 2003, 12:57

IMHO, at least it's working

The Belgain · 14th May 2003, 00:37

What kind of processor would you need to be looking at to get full speed playback of a DVD-res VSS h.264 clip with the current implementation? Would anything on the market at the moment do it?

Sirber · 14th May 2003, 00:47

They say a P4 3.x GHz. They mainly optimize their codec for P4...

I have a AMD

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	Same technology, different people, different ways of implementation,... Probably it'll become some thing like DivX&Xvid, if we get lucky Cu Selur Ps.: In their slowest settings both implementations should give nearly give the same quality,..

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	"Is This True? " Don't know for sure, but hopefully not. "Meaning Say VSS=Divx=NON Open Source And Hdot264=Xvid=Open Source?" We'll see in the future,.. Cu Selur

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Selur Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 7,277	"and the dshow doesn't work." and vss dshow filter is also to slow atm,... (hoping for Beta3 ..) Cu Selur

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The Belgain Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 335	What kind of processor would you need to be looking at to get full speed playback of a DVD-res VSS h.264 clip with the current implementation? Would anything on the market at the moment do it?