BeLight 0.22 beta 8 released - Page 25

ron spencer · 29th June 2005, 16:23

ok...thanks!!!!

mazzo · 30th June 2005, 21:13

If you choose bitrate 96, it will encode in 320.

Kurtnoise · 1st July 2005, 06:51

Can't reproduce this bug...All works fine here.

Which version did you use ?

And btw,

mazzo · 1st July 2005, 06:58

Kurtnoise:

I use Beta 4. Win 2000.

I encode in 96 mono resample 48000. The Besweet command line gives me
-m m -b 320 -resample 48

Kurtnoise · 1st July 2005, 17:23

ok I see...It was in CBR mode.

3rd July 2005, 08:54

hey kurt, i've got a small question, i noticed there are some boost modes, like those of dspguru, ligh,etc. in belight, so should they be used in ac3 to mp3 or aac or vorbis transcoding, and pls can u tell me which one should be used for ac3 to aac and ac3 to vorbis and ac3 to mp3 conversion!thanks in advance!

Kurtnoise · 3rd July 2005, 09:51

The boost modes must be use only with wav input files.

LigH · 3rd July 2005, 10:12

@ neo_anderson:

I guess I'm the right person to tell you about the booster...

Booster is a per-sample "dynamic compressor". It works like a saturating amplifier, and each mode uses a different saturating function:

- LigH: tangens hyperbolicus
- DSPguru: arcus tangens
- Tera: division to a sum with an abs value

The first mode (LigH) is quite linear for the quieter parts, and saturating a bit more suddenly. I'd recommend this with a factor around 3.0 for dynamic compression when the amount of channels is kept (no downmix).

The second mode (DSPguru) starts to saturate earlier. I would recomment this mode with a factor around 4.0 for dynamic compression on sources which get downmixed (e.g. AC3 5.1 to 2.0 for MP3).

The third mode (Tera) saturates even earlier. In general, I cannot recommend this mode - except maybe, if you really need to boost your material into the orbit to understand anything.

If you want to use the booster instead of Azid's DRC (and I mean "instead of", don't forget about this!), is your choice of taste. Try it. Play around. Decide for yourself.

The waveform will get distorted, but from my experience, this doesn't harm surround effects remarkably. In my opinion, its advantage is less "pumping", especially if you need the dynamic compressed well to avoid your neighbors knocking on walls. But the waveform distorsion is a downside an audiophile cannot ignore.
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@ Kurtnoise13:

Only on WAV? What makes you assume that? BeSweet supports the booster internally as well, during the conversion of any supported format pair.

Kurtnoise · 3rd July 2005, 12:32

yes I know...but I had several issues (too many distorsions...and I dont like this) when I applied a boost with some lossy files.

Kurtnoise · 4th July 2005, 21:26

Heya,

What's wrong with Polish and Russian language file ???

I've this when I read the files :

Quote:

DynComp=Kompresja Dynamiczna :
DynComp_Hint=Ta opcja w³¹cza ogóln¹ kompresjê dynamiczn¹ w dekoderze
SSRC=Wyjœciowa Czêstotliwoœæ Próbkowania :
SSRC_Hint=Ta opcja ustawia czêstotliwoœæ wyjœciow¹ pliku wynikowego
BoostMode=Opcja G³oœnoœci :
Boost_Hint=Ustawienia ró¿nych profili do wzmocnienia g³oœnoœci
OTAMode=Mode :
OTAMode_Hint_part1=To kontroluje ró¿ne metody regulacji g³oœnoœci i normalizacji dŸwiêku
OTAMode_Hint_part2=Operuje na pliku wejœciowym. Hybrid Mode jest polecany dla mp2, mp3,
OTAMode_Hint_part3=albo dla pliku vorbis. Dla aac/mp4, u¿yj PreGain.
OTADelay=OpóŸnienie :
OTADelay_Hint_part1=Nadaj opóŸnienie (w milisekundach). Jeœli twój plik wejœciowy okreœla
OTADelay_Hint_part2=wartoœæ opóŸnienia, BeLight wykryje automatycznie t¹ wartoœæ.

There are some ³ and ¹ sometimes...

And for Russian

Quote:

[MAIN]
MenuFile1=&Ôàéë
MenuOpen1=Îòêðûòü...
MenuSave1=Ñîõðàíèòü...
MenuCreateLSTFile=Ñîçäàòü .lst ôàéë
MenuCreateMUXFile=Ñîçäàòü .mux ôàéë
MenuQuit1=Âûõîä
MenuEdit=&Ðåäàêòèðîâàòü
MenuBSCL=Ðåäàêòîð êîìàíäíîé ñòðîêè BeSweet
MenuSplitFiles=Ðàçäåëèòü ôàéëû ñ ïîìîùüþ BeSplit

LigH · 4th July 2005, 22:30

They use a different codepage, not Windows-1252 (ANSI/Latin1) or Latin-Western (ISO-8859-1). Special chars (above ASCII code 127) are substituted.

1250 = Central/Eastern European (probably useful for polish)
1251 = Cyrillic (useful for russian)
1252 = Western European (usual for basic latin chars)
...

Kurtnoise · 5th July 2005, 06:30

Does it mean I need to change my CharSet or add a CharSet option in BeLight ??

LigH · 5th July 2005, 14:32

I'm not sure; I would expect that Windows has a different default codepage in such localized installations, so you probably don't have to handle anything inside your program

Backflip · 6th July 2005, 06:57

Hi, I've read through the thread. I also get the Transcoding aborted error with music video audio:

- I'm using BeLight 0.22 b4.
- Audio is - 4mn 5s 244 kbps 2CH @ 6.55MB. Tested at

Dynamic compression - Normal
Output - Stereo
Normal/HE/High (2.59MB)
4mn 5s

Just thought I'd report the error. Audio appears to be fine though (Is it fine?)

Thanks

Vlad74 · 7th July 2005, 18:56

Hi Kurt!

I am using Win XP Pro SP2, and when I tried to use BeLight 0.22b4 I have on my screen the truncated window of the program that cannot be completely opened anyway:

Can it be solved?
Everything is OK when I use 0.21...

Kurtnoise · 7th July 2005, 19:50

huh...very strange. What resolution do you use ? btw, you can resize manually the window.

@Blackflip...yes, it's fixed.

video_magic · 8th July 2005, 01:27

Belight 0220 beta 4
PCM WAVE 48000 16bit stereo, encoding to AC3 160kb 2 channel.

Media Player Classic details identifies encoded ac3 file as 6 channels. Gspot identifies it as 2 channel.

I'm just wandering if the file has been accurately encoded as stereo (2 channels), or if this is a bug in Belight encoding - or a bug in MPCs analysis identification of the ac3 file?.

Kurtnoise · 8th July 2005, 06:27

I can't see the picture coz it needs to be approval but I'm sure about one thing : BeSweet can't transcode directly a stereo to a multichannel stream. So....

Vlad74 · 8th July 2005, 15:33

2 Kurt: I can do nothing with this window manually! The resolution is 1280x1024. I agree - It is strange, I never had same problem and I do not know what to think about it. An older version (0.22b1) had normal window size and worked well but coursed 3 times before each start that it had some problems for lack of something. Now I have it rewritten with the newest version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurtnoise13

huh...very strange. What resolution do you use ? btw, you can resize manually the window.
.

video_magic · 8th July 2005, 18:39

Aha, yes you are right Kurtnoise! I just tested some differently encoded 2 channel AC3s and it is definitely MPC identification problem which identifies 6 channels instead of 2.

No problems with the Belight encoded AC3s then, thanks a lot

30th June 2005, 21:13	#482 \| Link
mazzo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 154	BUG in MP3-encoding If you choose bitrate 96, it will encode in 320.

3rd July 2005, 08:54	#486 \| Link
neo_anderson Guest Posts: n/a	help dude! hey kurt, i've got a small question, i noticed there are some boost modes, like those of dspguru, ligh,etc. in belight, so should they be used in ac3 to mp3 or aac or vorbis transcoding, and pls can u tell me which one should be used for ac3 to aac and ac3 to vorbis and ac3 to mp3 conversion!thanks in advance!

3rd July 2005, 10:12	#488 \| Link
LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,779	@ neo_anderson: I guess I'm the right person to tell you about the booster... Booster is a per-sample "dynamic compressor". It works like a saturating amplifier, and each mode uses a different saturating function: - LigH: tangens hyperbolicus - DSPguru: arcus tangens - Tera: division to a sum with an abs value The first mode (LigH) is quite linear for the quieter parts, and saturating a bit more suddenly. I'd recommend this with a factor around 3.0 for dynamic compression when the amount of channels is kept (no downmix). The second mode (DSPguru) starts to saturate earlier. I would recomment this mode with a factor around 4.0 for dynamic compression on sources which get downmixed (e.g. AC3 5.1 to 2.0 for MP3). The third mode (Tera) saturates even earlier. In general, I cannot recommend this mode - except maybe, if you really need to boost your material into the orbit to understand anything. If you want to use the booster instead of Azid's DRC (and I mean "instead of", don't forget about this!), is your choice of taste. Try it. Play around. Decide for yourself. The waveform will get distorted, but from my experience, this doesn't harm surround effects remarkably. In my opinion, its advantage is less "pumping", especially if you need the dynamic compressed well to avoid your neighbors knocking on walls. But the waveform distorsion is a downside an audiophile cannot ignore. __ @ Kurtnoise13: Only on WAV? What makes you assume that? BeSweet supports the booster internally as well, during the conversion of any supported format pair. Last edited by LigH; 3rd July 2005 at 10:15.

4th July 2005, 22:30	#491 \| Link
LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,779	They use a different codepage, not Windows-1252 (ANSI/Latin1) or Latin-Western (ISO-8859-1). Special chars (above ASCII code 127) are substituted. 1250 = Central/Eastern European (probably useful for polish) 1251 = Cyrillic (useful for russian) 1252 = Western European (usual for basic latin chars) ... Last edited by LigH; 4th July 2005 at 22:35.

7th July 2005, 18:56	#495 \| Link
Vlad74 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 5	Trunkated window - can it be solved? Hi Kurt! I am using Win XP Pro SP2, and when I tried to use BeLight 0.22b4 I have on my screen the truncated window of the program that cannot be completely opened anyway: Can it be solved? Everything is OK when I use 0.21... Last edited by Vlad74; 7th July 2005 at 18:58.

29th June 2005, 16:23	#481 \| Link
ron spencer DVD Magistrate Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sodor Posts: 991	ok...thanks!!!!

1st July 2005, 06:51	#483 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	Can't reproduce this bug...All works fine here. Which version did you use ? And btw,

1st July 2005, 06:58	#484 \| Link
mazzo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 154	Kurtnoise: I use Beta 4. Win 2000. I encode in 96 mono resample 48000. The Besweet command line gives me -m m -b 320 -resample 48

1st July 2005, 17:23	#485 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	ok I see...It was in CBR mode.

3rd July 2005, 09:51	#487 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	The boost modes must be use only with wav input files.

3rd July 2005, 12:32	#489 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	yes I know...but I had several issues (too many distorsions...and I dont like this) when I applied a boost with some lossy files.

5th July 2005, 06:30	#492 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	Does it mean I need to change my CharSet or add a CharSet option in BeLight ??

5th July 2005, 14:32	#493 \| Link
LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,779	I'm not sure; I would expect that Windows has a different default codepage in such localized installations, so you probably don't have to handle anything inside your program

6th July 2005, 06:57	#494 \| Link
Backflip Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 157	Hi, I've read through the thread. I also get the Transcoding aborted error with music video audio: - I'm using BeLight 0.22 b4. - Audio is - 4mn 5s 244 kbps 2CH @ 6.55MB. Tested at Dynamic compression - Normal Output - Stereo Normal/HE/High (2.59MB) 4mn 5s Just thought I'd report the error. Audio appears to be fine though (Is it fine?) Thanks

7th July 2005, 19:50	#496 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	huh...very strange. What resolution do you use ? btw, you can resize manually the window. @Blackflip...yes, it's fixed.

8th July 2005, 01:27	#497 \| Link
video_magic Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 368	Belight 0220 beta 4 PCM WAVE 48000 16bit stereo, encoding to AC3 160kb 2 channel. Media Player Classic details identifies encoded ac3 file as 6 channels. Gspot identifies it as 2 channel. I'm just wandering if the file has been accurately encoded as stereo (2 channels), or if this is a bug in Belight encoding - or a bug in MPCs analysis identification of the ac3 file?. Attached Images

8th July 2005, 06:27	#498 \| Link
Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	I can't see the picture coz it needs to be approval but I'm sure about one thing : BeSweet can't transcode directly a stereo to a multichannel stream. So....

8th July 2005, 18:39	#500 \| Link
video_magic Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 368	Aha, yes you are right Kurtnoise! I just tested some differently encoded 2 channel AC3s and it is definitely MPC identification problem which identifies 6 channels instead of 2. No problems with the Belight encoded AC3s then, thanks a lot __________________ Thankyou!, I am grateful for any help

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