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Old 15th December 2005, 19:29   #21  |  Link
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Jean, if you have the demo DVD for DVD Demystified please try vts_14_1.vob
DVDSubEdit is crashing on this vob, which is, admittedly, a torture test. This is the demo of subpicture effects - fade, wipe, and scroll - these use a lot of commands, including 07 - CHG_COLCON (which is why I tried it). I've tried to edit the vob down to the part that causes the crash just in case you do not have a copy of the disk, but it looks like the smallest I can get it to is 11MB. Let me know if you need that part and can receive it somewhere.
mpucoder, I was waiting for someone to do just what you did!!!!
Currently DVDSubEdit does not parse the 07 command, and I'm not sure how it behaves when it finds it (poorly, apparently!!!!). I was expecting the day somebody would run into that!
I don't have that DVD, it would be great if you could send me a tiny portion of that VOB (if it's OK to do that) so I can see what exactly is causing the crash. I've only tested DVDSubEdit with "standard" vobs (from commercial DVDs) which, I'm sure, do not exercize the entire specs, far from it...
The crash could be caused by too many DCSQTs or whatever, but I'd have to take a look to find out!

Let me know if that's OK!!
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Nope, you have to register to view it.
mpucoder, any chance you might relax your policy on that front?
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mpucoder, I got your example, and indeed, the crash is related to the fact that there are a large number of DCSQTs for these subpics, and DVDSubEdit only has room for 4 currently (and does not check if there's more - bad boy jeanl!).
I'll fix that soon! Then we'll find out what happens when you have 07 commands!
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OK I put a cleaned up (temporary) version here
http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/Downloads/

which will load the right number of DCSQTs. mpucoder, you can try it on the rest of the file, but I'm sure it will complain about the 07 command!
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Looks very nice.

Would it be possible to import subs for an entire pgc for example? That would make a lot of fansubbers very happy
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Would it be possible to import subs for an entire pgc for example?
AFAIK this is not possible. You must demux the PGC and mux it back together with your new subtitle stream.

However, AFAIK it may be possible to replace a single subpic with a new one, depending on the sizes of the two subpics. Maybe that would be useful when you have custom made subtitles with spelling and translation mistakes etc. that you want to fix in a few of the existing subpic?

(in theori, this way you could replace all subpics in a stream, one by one, and this achieving your goal. However, as you cannot do much about the timings of the subpics inside the vob files, it would require your new subtitles to consist of exactly the same number of bitmap images, with the same start and end times)
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I'm not interested in replacing subs myself and if I would be I would author them in. It's just that there are always a lot of question on this subject and mostly by people that do not know the word authoring So a bit of self interest here
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Old 16th December 2005, 12:46   #28  |  Link
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@influenza and CoNS, I'm very scared of the remuxing idea, even just to change the delay. I'm thinking about doing that in DVDSubEdit, but it's a risky proposition, lots of things can go wrong if you don't remux correctly, it took me a while to get it "right" in menushrink (and I'm not sure it's that right!).
But eventually, I'll look into it.
@zacoz, thanks man!
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People, here's a new, unofficial beta (beta 0.67) of DVDSubEdit.
http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/Downloads/

The main new feature is the support for STA and FSTA changes to force subtitles or unforce them.

- The video background now shows button rectangles it there are any.
- DVDSubEdit now can change STA to FSTA and vice versa.
- The transparency was not respected when the CLUT couldn't be found. This has been fixed.
- DVDSubEdit should not crash when CHG_COLCON commands are found (it simply won't parse it and stop parsing the DCSQTs).

NOTE: BE CAREFUL! The way DVDSubEdit now works, if you apply the modifications to all subtitles, everything gets changed: the transparency is changed according to the slider, the subtitles are moved according to the slider, and all STA/FSTA commands are changed according to the selector.
Of course, this will be changed in the future. I'm still thinking about the best way to present that to the user.

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It's not "open source" per se, but I will make the source code available. Are you interested in a particular aspect of it?
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Yeah! I believe this tool can be very handy to make some karoake DVDs.
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good work!

It's been years we needed such a tool!
Very promessing for translating subpictures into movies.
Do you think it'd ever be possible to substitute a subpicture or a sequence of subpictures by another?
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Well, I'm not sure DVDSubEdit can really be useful to replace subs at this point. See the posts above. Replacing is possible if the subpic data has about the same size as the original. But if you're replacing an entire stream with another (changing the language for example) I believe demuxing remuxing is the way to go.
THe same applies for karaoke. I'm not sure how you could use DVDSubEdit for that. It can't insert subs, it only modifies the ones that are already there... And only some aspects of them...
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Transparency does not work for me
I can drag the slider - preview and values changes fine but after saving and reloading b,p,e1 and e2 have the old values
same on a player

(Ver0.67 and 0.64)
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ooops! You're right! Sorry about that, silly bug. I'll fix an post an update!
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New version beta 0.68
http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/Downloads/
Which fixes the transparency problem (promised!).

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Works as promised
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Good!
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THe same applies for karaoke. I'm not sure how you could use DVDSubEdit for that. It can't insert subs, it only modifies the ones that are already there... And only some aspects of them...
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Thats the reason why I asked for the source codes earlier. I wanted to add the Karaoke feature in this tool.
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But to add subpics, you need much much more than my source code! You need to write rle encoding, but the most challenging part is you need to do the tricky muxing...
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