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2nd August 2006, 09:14 | #1 | Link |
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x264 problems.Newbie questions and Huge Story, so far ;)
So, SUBj is too trivial but be patient, cause i'm having this problem.. for like 3 weeks and it IS Bad.
Here is my story: I'm ripping DVDs with XviD since it got 1.0.. and i kinda like it. but the time goes by and H264 is already useable. so i'm new to it. i've read KAA wiki and this forum and decided to RiP MUSHiSHi DVDs (i have 5) to x264+AAC(Nero)=MKV (there are some chapters and No GOOD Subz). Vell. Mushishi is Anime, Very Detailed, Extremely SlowMotion, and DVDs are allmos all 7Gb. My decision was: MeGUI, SharkTooth's x264 CLI and his Presets(for MeGUI). I'm not limited is Size of Files and want to make something like eXtream Quality. i Grabbed "HQ-Insane" Preset and cahnged BitRate from 1000 to 1800(No Size Limit). ithink thats All.. and!!! Here we Go: 1st Pass: 15-17fps..good, nice, and perfect. and then.. oops 2nd Pass - 0,56fps(this is not the problem) BUT.. after somethink like 25!! Hours it HANGs AND EXiTS. it's like 70% of Encode. with earlier builds(53x) my PC simply Restarted. with build by b0bor i'm getting an Error and CLI shuts down. i've already tried: changing revisions, removing ColorMatrix from Script, i've user VFW in VDubMod. probably something else, but i can't remember now. oh, yeah, i even stripped 1h10min (for 3Eps) into 3 different d2v's .. each one hangs on 70% of 2nd pass. today's try will be: reducing bitrate to 1300. and here is some info: i've encoded DVD3 already but in inproper Resolution (sucsessfully). and made a RiP with non mod16 Res( i've got some crappy images. rip was in VfW). and RiPped Bonuses in some different Preset(cen't remember.. AE-Standert maybe).. any Help? and Some Explainations from Sharctoosh about AE, HQ.. names of Presets. Onegai ^__^ Here is My script (Source is too good and i've decided to remove Deen) Code:
# PLUGINS LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\ColorMatrix.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Decomb.dll") #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Deen.dll") mpeg2source("D:\DVD-RiP\MUSHiSHi\DVD2\OUT\04\04.d2v", idct=0, info=3) ColorMatrix(hints=true,interlaced=true) Telecide(order=1,post=2) crop(0,4,720,472) #Deen("a3d",1,5,5,3) LanczosResize(720,400) |
2nd August 2006, 09:48 | #2 | Link | |
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A couple of people have already reported such behavior (x264 quitting or crashing after so many hours).
Maybe your hardware is unstable. Have you overclocked your CPU and/or GPU ? If not, maybe you have dead cheap RAM or something like that. Using search you might find other suggestions since this has been dealt with already. However, since 1st pass runs fine and that you're not limited by the filesize, I suggest you use the 1-pass constant quality mode (a.k.a CRF) with nominal quantizer set to something around 18 to 22. If it crashes again I would suspect you have some defective HDD sectors and that your HDD is near-full Quote:
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"near-full" is like 2,5Gb.. from 120 .. lots of crap and "usefull" stuff. Quote:
and i'm typing Fast, and... and i Really don' like to ReRead what i'm posting.. i'm kinda that guy sorry, SharkTooth my mistake * was it good(correct) this time? ??? |
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2nd August 2006, 12:44 | #4 | Link |
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encoding with x264 can overheat the CPU and other hardware for many many hours.
even a small and insignificant hw problem could render your system completely unstable. i suggest you to check the temperatures at some point (after some hours of encoding) and run some burn-in tests.
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2nd August 2006, 13:05 | #5 | Link |
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well, i thought about it.... it seems like it IS the problem.. but for shure it didn't happened before.. x264 not like that.
ok. we've targeted the problem. Now. is it possible to.. well.. LIMIT CPU Usage of x264? (XviD-MultiThread uses about 80%CPU). and.. few more questions: what are the meanings of "??-standart" "??-Insane" in MeGUIs Presets? |
2nd August 2006, 13:10 | #6 | Link |
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oh Yeah.. and Why .. now i Understant why PC Hanged. BUT Why x264 Closes nd PC still works?
and as i mentioned: at First it was 1h10mins Length. then i devided it into 3 parts. and each part(well 2of3) had only ~9mins of 23. and on the 2nd part it seems like it went Reboot. and is there any options to get debug info or something like crash report for x264? |
2nd August 2006, 14:20 | #7 | Link |
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There are a lot of different types of crashes. When avisynth crashes on XP SP2 it sometimes just causes whatever was using it to disappear. Sometimes the application crashes, and sometimes the system itself will bluescreen or become unstable if hardware is bad.
Oh, and check your error logs (eventvwr.msc) or turn reboot on bugcheck off, so at least you can see the bluescreen message. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it's a red herring. See the hardware forum for a sticky on how to diagnose harware trouble. Can't hurt to update all your drivers too. |
2nd August 2006, 16:37 | #8 | Link |
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foxyshadis, thanks.. but a)Drivers ARE UpToDate b)some New Info below
About Sharktooth's "overheat the CPU" i think this IS the Problem (mine p4 goes to 55C DoublePass and (Just tested) SiglePass 52C ) as DarkZell666 Suggested I've Made 1Pass Encode.. And... IT WENT ALL-GOOD!!!! 52C on CPU .. but it didn't crash. But.. this morning i've started HQ-Insane 2nd Pass(with Old .stats file) .. and.. on About 70% I went BlueScreen. so i guess for this night i'll enque 2 other Eps with "CQ-ASP_Q2_eq(crf)".. Any other suggestions. 'cuse i'm new to x264 (well.. tested some of 11x builds ) .. and something ABOUT Presets!!!... Any Info. I'm not limited in Space, and i need eXtremeQuality BackUP. |
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3rd August 2006, 04:57 | #13 | Link |
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CPU and RAM do get older..
I could perfectly well rip on my (now dead) Thunderbird for a long time, and at some point exactly that kind of stuff started to happen. As for why it only closes the app, it might be adress range protection if the app produced a memory adress outside of the apps allocated adress space (ie because the hardware is now "a little bit" faulty) Windows probably will not like it if the app tries to access that adress and closes it. Well that's just how i explained to myself the crashes i had back then. It started to happen a few months before the CPU serously started to degrade quickly. At this point it did not really seriously heat up yet (that came only later).
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i think i'll do some to make some explainations... few mins of playing with output in MPC... well.. this might be just my imagination.. or.. i'll need to add some blur on output, 'cause DVDs seem to be Very nice, indeed. with no such things. |
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25th August 2006, 09:18 | #18 | Link |
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Well... i'm back .. Again ...
if someOne interested in How i overcomed problems.. here Are Some Photos of my Current WorkSpace http://www.ljplus.ru/img/s/p/spawn_g..._resize-01.JPG http://www.ljplus.ru/img/s/p/spawn_g..._resize-02.JPG and this one is.. about DVDs Quality: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?i...vs61270ls1.png |
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