Backup hddvd and IME

[2bigkings]

it work's fine!!! now i can change the language in european HD-DVDs!! thank you!

Once we understand the structure it should be possible to customize the discs in any way we want. It will be good to strip those pesky FBI warnings and enforced trailers while preserving the good bits. Some script wizards should be able to write automation for this, and it's easier to understand than some of the cryptic navigation stuff in conventional DVD.

I'm working on a command-line version of this, first version should be out this weekend.

[guile]

Originally Posted by honai

I'm working on a command-line version of this, first version should be out this weekend.

Cool, I would like to play with that. Btw, are most of you guys using Power DVD 6.5? If so, on certain titles, are you seeing an occasional "tearing" type effect? I'm wondering if it is player related or due to improper decryption. Since I haven't messed with jap windvd 8, I can't really say. So far, I have noticed it on several titles. Nothing too distracting but it's there.

[noclip]

Which file are you supposed to play? Nothing works for me.

[guile]

Originally Posted by noclip

Which file are you supposed to play? Nothing works for me.

Using Powerdvd 6.5, you would select "Open HD-DVD file from hard disk" and just go to the directory of the stored backup. If you did this, and you couldn't click "OK" to play it, then most likely you did something wrong in the .xmp file.

[noclip]

That's the way I was doing it, it shows a black screen for a second and then stops playback.

What's wrong with my playlist?

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<Playlist xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
	xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist
	file:/X:/RND/current_schemas/Playlist.xsd"
	xmlns="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist" displayName="V for Vendetta HD DVD"
	minorVersion="0" majorVersion="1">
	<Configuration>
		<StreamingBuffer size="0"/>
		<Aperture size="1920x1080"/>
		<MainVideoDefaultColor color="108080"/>
	</Configuration>
	<MediaAttributeList>
		<VideoAttributeItem codec="VC-1" index="1"/>
		<VideoAttributeItem codec="MPEG-2" index="2"/>
		<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="1" channels="6"/>
		<AudioAttributeItem codec="MLP" index="2" channels="6"/>
		<AudioAttributeItem codec="DD+" index="3" channels="2"/>
		<SubpictureAttributeItem codec="8bitRLC" index="1"/>
	</MediaAttributeList>
	<TitleSet tickBase="60fps" timeBase="60fps" defaultLanguage="en">
		<Title displayName="Feature Presentation" id="feature" titleNumber="1" titleDuration="02:12:47:38" tickBaseDivisor="4" onEnd="feature">
			<PrimaryAudioVideoClip src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_1.MAP" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:08:11:40" dataSource="Disc">
				<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
				<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
				<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English TrueHD" streamNumber="2"/>
			</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
			<PrimaryAudioVideoClip src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/PEVOB_2.MAP" titleTimeBegin="01:08:11:40" titleTimeEnd="02:12:24:24" dataSource="Disc" seamless="true">
				<Video mediaAttr="1" track="1"/>
				<Audio mediaAttr="1" track="1" description="English 5.1" streamNumber="1"/>
				<Audio mediaAttr="2" track="2" description="English TrueHD" streamNumber="2"/>
			</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
			<ChapterList>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 1" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 2" titleTimeBegin="00:02:24:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 3" titleTimeBegin="00:09:07:20"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 4" titleTimeBegin="00:10:59:44"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 5" titleTimeBegin="00:16:26:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 6" titleTimeBegin="00:21:55:20"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 7" titleTimeBegin="00:25:00:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 8" titleTimeBegin="00:30:08:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 9" titleTimeBegin="00:35:35:20"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 10" titleTimeBegin="00:40:35:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 11" titleTimeBegin="00:43:11:40"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 12" titleTimeBegin="00:47:59:50"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 13" titleTimeBegin="00:49:38:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 14" titleTimeBegin="00:54:07:50"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 15" titleTimeBegin="00:56:36:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 16" titleTimeBegin="01:00:27:40"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 17" titleTimeBegin="01:04:43:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 18" titleTimeBegin="01:09:37:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 19" titleTimeBegin="01:12:03:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 20" titleTimeBegin="01:18:45:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 21" titleTimeBegin="01:21:08:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 22" titleTimeBegin="01:25:56:30"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 23" titleTimeBegin="01:29:15:20"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 24" titleTimeBegin="01:32:02:50"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 25" titleTimeBegin="01:36:15:30"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 26" titleTimeBegin="01:39:22:30"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 27" titleTimeBegin="01:44:11:20"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 28" titleTimeBegin="01:48:43:50"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 29" titleTimeBegin="01:51:57:00"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 30" titleTimeBegin="01:53:50:50"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 31" titleTimeBegin="01:57:44:30"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 32" titleTimeBegin="01:59:28:10"/>
				<Chapter displayName="Chapter 33" titleTimeBegin="02:04:31:00"/>
			</ChapterList>
			<TrackNavigationList>
				<AudioTrack track="1" langcode="en:01" description="English 5.1"/>
				<AudioTrack track="2" langcode="en:01" description="English TrueHD"/>
			</TrackNavigationList>
		</Title>
	</TitleSet>
</Playlist>

[guile]

Playlist looks ok. Did you remember to move the .vti file to the HVDVD_TS folder?

[noclip]

Originally Posted by guile

Playlist looks ok. Did you remember to move the .vti file to the HVDVD_TS folder?

Yeah. Are you supposed to edit the VTI file too?

[guile]

Originally Posted by noclip

Yeah. Are you supposed to edit the VTI file too?

No, just the xmp. Stupid question. You did also move the feature .map's to the HVDVD_TS folder? I know somebody reported they did V for Vendetta and it worked.

[noclip]

Originally Posted by guile

No, just the xmp. Stupid question. You did also move the feature .map's to the HVDVD_TS folder? I know somebody reported they did V for Vendetta and it worked.

Why is that a stupid question? The VTI file contains references to the other EVOBs.

I did everything according to the post on page 2 and double checked it. I even tried copying all the decrypted EVOBs and their MAPs to the HDDVD_TS directory and using the original playlist with AACS crap deleted.

[2themax]

The VTI is very important. Everything else could be perfect and without it nothing would work. I tested V for Vendetta and it works. One thing I think I see is that you are running PowerDVD 6.5. Correct me if I am wrong. For some reason, 6.5 never liked V for Vendetta. It definitely will work under 7 though.

[noclip]

I can play it in 7 but it stutters like mad. Scarcely 3 seconds goes by without the image going black for 1.

[ginhead]

noclip,
what playback software are you using? I'm using PDVD 7.2 and cant get King Kong to work (been trying all day) while Serenity and Training Day work perfectly. Not sure if this could be a factor, but I dont see anything wrong with your code.

Here is the file I'm using for King Kong - I'd appreciate it if anyone could let me know if there is an obvious error or post a working file for KK:

<Playlist majorVersion="1" minorVersion="0"
    xmlns="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist"
    xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
    xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist http://www.dvdforum.org/2005/HDDVDVideo/Playlist/Playlist.xsd">
   
 <Configuration>
        <StreamingBuffer size="0"/>
        <Aperture size="1920x1080"/>
        <MainVideoDefaultColor color="107F7F"/>
    </Configuration>

    <MediaAttributeList>
        <VideoAttributeItem index="1" codec="VC-1"/>
        <VideoAttributeItem index="2" codec="AVC"/>
        <VideoAttributeItem index="3" codec="MPEG-2"/>
        <AudioAttributeItem index="1" codec="DD+"/>
        <AudioAttributeItem index="2" codec="AC-3"/>
        <SubpictureAttributeItem index="1" codec="8bitRLC"/>
    </MediaAttributeList>

    <TitleSet timeBase="60fps" tickBase="24fps" defaultLanguage="en">


        <Title titleNumber="1" titleDuration="03:07:11:54" id="MainMovie" displayName="Main Movie" onEnd="deluxe" tickBaseDivisor="2" alternativeSDDisplayMode="letterbox">           
            <PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:27:42:10" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/FEATURE_1.MAP" dataSource="Disc">
              <Video track="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
              <Audio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" description="English 5.1"/>
              <Audio track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" description="Spanish 5.1"/>
              <Audio track="3" streamNumber="3" mediaAttr="1" description="French 5.1"/>
          </PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
          <PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="01:27:42:10" titleTimeEnd="03:07:11:54" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/FEATURE_2.MAP" dataSource="Disc" seamless="true">
              <Video track="1" mediaAttr="1"/>
              <Audio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" description="English 5.1"/>
              <Audio track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" description="Spanish 5.1"/>
              <Audio track="3" streamNumber="3" mediaAttr="1" description="French 5.1"/>
          </PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
          <ChapterList>
              <Chapter displayName="Opening - New York 1933" titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" />
              <Chapter displayName="Vaudeville" titleTimeBegin="00:03:03:37" />
              <Chapter displayName="Theater Closed" titleTimeBegin="00:04:21:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="Denhams Screening" titleTimeBegin="00:06:44:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="Defeat Is Always Momentary" titleTimeBegin="00:10:30:02" />
              <Chapter displayName="A Fateful Meeting" titleTimeBegin="00:12:33:27" />
              <Chapter displayName="A Woman Born to Play this Role" titleTimeBegin="00:14:18:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Moving Picture Ship" titleTimeBegin="00:17:40:50" />
              <Chapter displayName="An Early Departure" titleTimeBegin="00:20:25:37" />
              <Chapter displayName="Jack's Quarters" titleTimeBegin="00:24:12:50" />
              <Chapter displayName="Bruce Settles In" titleTimeBegin="00:25:55:05" />
              <Chapter displayName="Jimmy's Story" titleTimeBegin="00:26:12:47" />
              <Chapter displayName="Ann Meets Jack Driscoll" titleTimeBegin="00:27:59:57" />
              <Chapter displayName="A Moustache for Bruce" titleTimeBegin="00:30:28:42" />
              <Chapter displayName="We're Filming on an Island Now?”" titleTimeBegin="00:31:06:35" />
              <Chapter displayName="Filming a Classic Scene" titleTimeBegin="00:33:06:22" />
              <Chapter displayName="Romance on the Venture" titleTimeBegin="00:34:13:27" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Last Blank Space on the Map" titleTimeBegin="00:36:54:40" />
              <Chapter displayName="A Long Sea Voyage" titleTimeBegin="00:39:44:17" />
              <Chapter displayName="It’s in the Sub-Text" titleTimeBegin="00:41:06:02" />
              <Chapter displayName="A Change of Course" titleTimeBegin="00:42:30:10" />
              <Chapter displayName="Skull Island" titleTimeBegin="00:43:44:15" />
              <Chapter displayName="Expedition Ashore" titleTimeBegin="00:52:18:02" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Inhabitants of Skull Island" titleTimeBegin="00:55:47:35" />
              <Chapter displayName="Ann's Abduction" titleTimeBegin="01:02:04:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Sacrifice" titleTimeBegin="01:07:29:45" />
              <Chapter displayName="Rescue Party" titleTimeBegin="01:12:36:07" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Killing Ground" titleTimeBegin="01:14:25:20" />
              <Chapter displayName="Discovering the Footprint" titleTimeBegin="01:17:49:40" />
              <Chapter displayName="Brontosaurus Stampede" titleTimeBegin="01:20:08:12" />
              <Chapter displayName="Playing Dead" titleTimeBegin="01:26:46:10" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Party Is Divided" titleTimeBegin="01:27:42:10" />
              <Chapter displayName="Ann Disarms Kong" titleTimeBegin="01:29:23:10" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Log Chasm" titleTimeBegin="01:36:08:17" />
              <Chapter displayName="The T-Rex Battle" titleTimeBegin="01:39:52:07" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Insect Pit" titleTimeBegin="01:51:30:40" />
              <Chapter displayName="Beautiful" titleTimeBegin="01:57:13:17" />
              <Chapter displayName="Denham's Plan" titleTimeBegin="02:01:23:22" />
              <Chapter displayName="Jack Rescues Ann" titleTimeBegin="02:03:55:42" />
              <Chapter displayName="Captured" titleTimeBegin="02:09:39:55" />
              <Chapter displayName="Eighth Wonder of the World" titleTimeBegin="02:17:58:27" />
              <Chapter displayName="Cry Havoc!" titleTimeBegin="02:19:53:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="Carl Denham Presents Kong" titleTimeBegin="02:21:43:52" />
              <Chapter displayName="Kong in New York" titleTimeBegin="02:30:55:57" />
              <Chapter displayName="Reunited" titleTimeBegin="02:35:26:02" />
              <Chapter displayName="Under Attack" titleTimeBegin="02:39:59:05" />
              <Chapter displayName="The Empire State Building" titleTimeBegin="02:41:04:32" />
              <Chapter displayName="Kong’s Last Stand" titleTimeBegin="02:43:23:02" />
              <Chapter displayName="It was Beauty Killed the Beast" titleTimeBegin="02:50:56:10" />
              <Chapter displayName="End Credits" titleTimeBegin="02:57:32:35" />
          </ChapterList>
          <TrackNavigationList>
              <AudioTrack track="1" langcode="en:01" selectable="true"/>
              <AudioTrack track="2" langcode="es:01" selectable="true"/>
              <AudioTrack track="3" langcode="fr:01" selectable="true"/>
          </TrackNavigationList>
            
        </Title>
    </TitleSet>
</Playlist>

regards,
Jeff

btw, I interperated the 'stupid question' above to refer to the new question asked (as it was obvious), not your response to the previous question.

[noclip]

ginhead:

That looks fine, it should would work for everyone except me.

Only minor thing is onEnd should probably be set to "MainMovie" although it would still play back if it wasn't.

[blutach]

Originally Posted by guile

No, just the xmp. Stupid question. You did also move the feature .map's to the HVDVD_TS folder? I know somebody reported they did V for Vendetta and it worked.

@guile - I do hope you weren't accusing noclip of asking a stupid question. If so, rule 4 is very pertinent.

Regards

[guile]

Originally Posted by blutach

@guile - I do hope you weren't accusing noclip of asking a stupid question. If so, rule 4 is very pertinent.

Regards

No, I meant MY question was probably stupid (if he had all the code correct, it was probably dumb of me to ask if he remembered to move the .vti file to the HVDVD_TS directory), nothing more then that.

It seems V for Vendetta may be a software problem with regards to playback.

[ginhead]

noclip,
thanks for the response. No luck after changing onEnd. 2 out of my 3 backups work perfectly and KK is the only one I have with IME/U-Control.

Have you been able to use this method to get any backups playable (with or w/out IME) or will nothing work? I wonder if there is an issue with this method with IME discs and 7.2. I might have to go back to 6.5 to test it out.

[guile]

Originally Posted by noclip

Why is that a stupid question? The VTI file contains references to the other EVOBs.

I did everything according to the post on page 2 and double checked it. I even tried copying all the decrypted EVOBs and their MAPs to the HDDVD_TS directory and using the original playlist with AACS crap deleted.

noclip- Please see my response below. It never ceases to amaze me how things can be so misconstrued in writing. Good luck with V for Vendetta and please let us know if you are fortunate enough to get it working. I think until players mature, there will be a lot of these type situations.

[2themax]

ginhead,

Your KK playlist is identical to mine, other than the error aleady pointed out. What is the exact problem or error that is happening when you try to play it?

noclip,

Did you use BackupHDDVD v0.99 and v1.00?

[guile]

Originally Posted by ginhead

noclip,
thanks for the response. No luck after changing onEnd. 2 out of my 3 backups work perfectly and KK is the only one I have with IME/U-Control.

Have you been able to use this method to get any backups playable (with or w/out IME) or will nothing work? I wonder if there is an issue with this method with IME discs and 7.2. I might have to go back to 6.5 to test it out.

For the record, I am using 6.5 and have went back and done this to several of my previous dumps (all without IME and/or U-control) and they all are working perfectly. Chapter, search and no need for de-multiplexer). Very happy with that.