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Old 19th June 2017, 21:06   #14241  |  Link
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eac3to also doesnt work with UHD playlists. has there been a slight change of code with UHD BDs so that these playlist cannot be detected at all currently?
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v3.31 is now 20 months old.
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Old 20th June 2017, 14:57   #14243  |  Link
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eac3to also doesnt work with UHD playlists. has there been a slight change of code with UHD BDs so that these playlist cannot be detected at all currently?
It seems that these playlists contain a version field that differs for UHD-BDs from the version used on ordinary BDs. Therefore it might possibly be a simple version check failure.
Disclaimer: I am just reporting what I read here and have no experience with UHD-BDs. It is also said that tsmuxer is not strict regarding the version check.
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Hi, these are two errors I've seen lately:

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Error Demux M2TS using eac3to 3.31 x86

Demux M2TS using eac3to 3.31 x86 failed with exit code: 1 (0x1)

The exit code might be a system error code: STATUS_WAIT_1

The exit code might be a system error code: 函数不正确。

M2TS, 6 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 2:07:56
1: TrueHD/AC3 (Atmos), 7.1 channels, 48kHz
(embedded: AC3 EX, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz)
2: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz, 1ms
3: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz, 1ms
4: AC3 Surround, 2.0 channels, 224kbps, 48kHz, 1ms
5: AC3 Surround, 2.0 channels, 224kbps, 48kHz, 1ms
6: AC3 Surround, 2.0 channels, 224kbps, 48kHz, 1ms
7: Subtitle (PGS)
8: Subtitle (PGS)
9: Subtitle (PGS)
10: Subtitle (PGS)
Track 1 is used for destination file "00000 ID1.thd+ac3 -progressnumbers".
This audio conversion is not supported.
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eac3to v3.31
command line: "D:\Projekte\VS\VB\StaxRip\bin\Apps\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "E:\BDMV\PLAYLIST" 1) 2: D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to.mkv 3: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID3 English.eac3" 4: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID4 English.ac3" 5: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID5 German.thd+ac3" 6: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID6 German.dtsma" 7: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID7 English.ac3" 1: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to_chapters.txt" 8: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID8 English.sup" 9: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID9 German.sup" 10: "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to ID10 German.sup" -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 5 audio tracks, 3 subtitle tracks, 2:08:52, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 14 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: E-AC3 EX, English, 7.1 channels, 1512kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
(core: AC3 EX, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB)
4: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: TrueHD/AC3 (Atmos), German, 7.1 channels, 48kHz
(embedded: AC3 EX, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB)
6: DTS Master Audio, German, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48kHz
(core: DTS, 5.1 channels, 1509kbps, 48kHz)
7: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48kHz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: Subtitle (PGS), English
9: Subtitle (PGS), German
10: Subtitle (PGS), German
Creating file "D:\Temp\StaxRip\BD\eac3to\eac3to_chapters.txt"...
[s10] Extracting subtitle track number 10...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[a03] Applying (E-)AC3 delay failed. <ERROR>
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a06] Extracting audio track number 6...
[a05] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[s08] Extracting subtitle track number 8...
[s09] Extracting subtitle track number 9...
[a07] Extracting audio track number 7...
[a07] Removing AC3 dialog normalization...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
Aborted at file position 1048576. <ERROR>
Replacing Haali with ffmpeg and supporting mp4 input would be great.

Code:
General

ID/String                 : 0 (0x0)
CompleteName              : E:\BDMV\STREAM\00084.m2ts
Format                    : BDAV
Format/Info               : Blu-ray Video
FileSize/String           : 32.7 GiB
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
OverallBitRate_Mode/String: Variable
OverallBitRate/String     : 36.3 Mb/s
OverallBitRate_Maximum/String: 48.0 Mb/s

Video

ID/String                 : 4113 (0x1011)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : AVC
Format/Info               : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile            : High@L4.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String: Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String: 4 frames
CodecID                   : 27
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Variable
BitRate_Maximum/String    : 30.0 Mb/s
Width/String              : 1 920 pixels
Height/String             : 1 080 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String : 16:9
FrameRate/String          : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
ColorSpace                : YUV
ChromaSubsampling/String  : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String           : 8 bits
ScanType/String           : Progressive

Audio #1

ID/String                 : 4352 (0x1100)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : E-AC-3
Format/Info               : Enhanced Audio Coding 3
Format_Profile            : E-AC-3+Atmos / E-AC-3
Format_Settings_Endianness: Big
MuxingMode                : Stream extension
CodecID                   : 132
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Constant
BitRate/String            : 500 b/s
Channel(s)/String         : 11 objects / 6 channels
ChannelPositions          : 11 objects / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String       : 48.0 kHz
FrameRate/String          : 187.500 FPS (256 spf)
Compression_Mode/String   : Lossy
StreamSize/String         : 472 KiB (0%)
ServiceKind/String        : Complete Main

Audio #2

ID/String                 : 4353 (0x1101)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : AC-3
Format/Info               : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_Endianness: Big
CodecID                   : 129
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Constant
BitRate/String            : 448 kb/s
Channel(s)/String         : 6 channels
ChannelPositions          : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String       : 48.0 kHz
FrameRate/String          : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
BitDepth/String           : 16 bits
Compression_Mode/String   : Lossy
StreamSize/String         : 413 MiB (1%)
ServiceKind/String        : Complete Main

Audio #3

ID/String                 : 4354 (0x1102)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : TrueHD / AC-3
Format_Profile            : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD / AC-3
Format_Settings_Endianness: Big
MuxingMode                : Stream extension
CodecID                   : 131
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Variable / Constant
BitRate/String            : 448 kb/s
BitRate_Maximum/String    : 7 737 kb/s
Channel(s)/String         : Object Based / 8 channels / 6 channels
ChannelPositions          : Object Based / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String       : / 48.0 kHz / 48.0 kHz
FrameRate/String          : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
BitDepth/String           : 16 bits
StreamSize/String         : 413 MiB (1%)
ServiceKind/String        : Complete Main

Audio #4

ID/String                 : 4355 (0x1103)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : DTS
Format/Info               : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Profile            : MA / Core
Format_Settings_Mode      : 16
Format_Settings_Endianness: Big
MuxingMode                : Stream extension
CodecID                   : 134
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Variable / Constant
BitRate/String            : Unknown / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)/String         : 6 channels
ChannelPositions          : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String       : 48.0 kHz
FrameRate/String          : 93.750 FPS (512 spf)
BitDepth/String           : 16 bits
Compression_Mode/String   : Lossless / Lossy

Audio #5

ID/String                 : 4356 (0x1104)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : AC-3
Format/Info               : Audio Coding 3
Format_Settings_Mode      : Dolby Digital
Format_Settings_Endianness: Big
CodecID                   : 129
Duration/String           : 2 h 8 min
BitRate_Mode/String       : Constant
BitRate/String            : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)/String         : 2 channels
ChannelPositions          : Front: L R
SamplingRate/String       : 48.0 kHz
FrameRate/String          : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)
BitDepth/String           : 16 bits
Compression_Mode/String   : Lossy
StreamSize/String         : 177 MiB (1%)
ServiceKind/String        : Complete Main

Text #1

ID/String                 : 4608 (0x1200)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : PGS
CodecID                   : 144

Text #2

ID/String                 : 4609 (0x1201)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : PGS
CodecID                   : 144

Text #3

ID/String                 : 4610 (0x1202)
MenuID/String             : 1 (0x1)
Format                    : PGS
CodecID                   : 144

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Old 22nd June 2017, 12:22   #14245  |  Link
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For the first problem it might make sense to create a bug report here with a little (zipped) sample file:

http://eac3to.bugs.madshi.net
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Hi madshi

Could you imagine update eac3to to support UHD-Bluray?
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I would like to, but I have no UHD Blu-Ray specs. I'm not sure if the playlist format or anything else has changed. If anybody has UHD Blu-Ray specs available, please PM me, of course I'll keep everything confidential.
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Already have that one. It's just a white paper with 49 pages. The full 1080p Blu-Ray spec with all the technical detail has almost 1500 pages.
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I'm not sure if the playlist format or anything else has changed.
Yes somethings has changed. The version number is 0300 now.
And the language position seems different (eac3to don't find language names for the streams), the video stream is not recognized, so far my tests).

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If anybody has UHD Blu-Ray specs available, please PM me, of course I'll keep everything confidential.
Me too, please.
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I'm trying to extract the AC3 core from a MKV video that has an H.264 video, the EAC3 audio stream and a subtitle stream.

But, when I do:
Code:
eac3to inputvideo.mkv outputaudio.ac3
eac3to identifies the 2nd stream to be E-AC3, but errors out saying that "This audio conversion is not supported." But it is implied that it can be done because E-AC3 is the input source and AC3 is the output.

Am I doing something wrong?

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There are possibly some variants of the E-AC3 format. I guess not all of them have a legacy AC3 core to be extracted losslessly. It may also require the -core option. To help you better: Always quote your full console output / logfile when any error message appears (best in a CODE block). In addition, a MediaInfo analysis can't be wrong.
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You asked, you shall receive (and I know how to use code blocks )
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eac3to v3.31
command line: C:\cygwin\home\Vidiot\bin\eac3to\eac3to.exe input_eac3_video.mkv output.ac3 -core
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MKV, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 1 subtitle track, 0:43:13, 24p /1.001
1: h264/AVC, English, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: EAC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48kHz
3: Subtitle (SRT), English
Bitstream parsing for track 2 failed.  <WARNING>
Demuxing this track may still produce correct results - or not.  <WARNING>
Track 2 is used for destination file "output.ac3".
This audio conversion is not supported.  <ERROR>
Code:
General
Complete name                    : F:\input_eac3_video.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 4.05 GiB
Duration                         : 43mn 13s
Overall bit rate                 : 13.4 Mbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2016-08-29 13:09:36
Writing application              : mkvmerge v7.9.0 ('Birds') 32bit
Writing library                  : libebml v1.3.1 + libmatroska v1.4.2

Video
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 4 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@4.0
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 43mn 10s
Bit rate                         : 12.2 Mbps
Width                            : 1 920 pixels
Height                           : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16/9
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.246
Writing library                  : x264 core 148 r2623 d5b2374
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / 
analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / 
psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / 
trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / 
chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=34 / lookahead_threads=5 / 
sliced_threads=0 / nr=150 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / 
bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / 
b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / 
weightp=2 / keyint=120 / keyint_min=61 / scenecut=0 / 
intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=120 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / 
qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / 
vbv_maxrate=15000 / vbv_bufsize=31250 / crf_max=0.0 / 
nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=3:1.00

Audio
Format                           : E-AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_EAC3
Duration                         : 43mn 13s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 640 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz

Text
Format                           : UTF-8
Codec ID                         : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                    : UTF-8 Plain Text
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This appears like legacy AC3 to me, with 640 kbps and typical 5.1 channel layout. I would recommend a dedicated MKV demultiplexer here (MKVToolnixGUI / mkvextract + optional UI). Extracting from MKV may not be the primary feature of eac3to, in relation to other source media formats.

But I may be wrong. Other users may have more experience here.

BTW, is there the same error without the "-core" parameter? Reading the help output again, it only mentions DTS...
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Oops, I think you have misunderstood what I am trying to do. I have no problem extracting the video or audio streams from the MKV file. What I am trying to do is extract the AC3 core from the EAC3 audio stream. I'm trying to keep from having to recode the EAC3 to AC3. Recoding is not good.
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There is no ac3 core in this eac3...
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There is no ac3 core in this eac3...
Then by definition, it can't be EAC3. I read the paper that Dolby Labs released as a PDF and EAC3 is supposed to be for adding 2 surround channels, making it 7.1. For compatibility, there is supposed to be a core of the 5.1. When played back, if the amp doesn't know EAC3, the packets for the added 2 channels are ignored and only the core 5.1 is played. If the amp knows EAC3, then the 2 surround channels of the core are thrown out and the 4 channels of the EAC3 packets are added to the L/C/R of the core and played.

The paper that I read makes it sound like EAC3 with only 5.1 is not supposed to be possible, yet here it is. Streaming services like Amazon and Netflix are expanding EAC3 use, but only seem to have 5.1. Advantage unknown.

The paper says nothing about having the L/C/R also in the EAC3 added packets.

Color me totally confused.

I used tsmuxer to extract the EAC3 stream from the MKV file. I then fed that single stream to eac3to and that worked, sortof. I mean that eac3to no longer complains about it not being supported, but it recoded the audio with libaften, which I did not want to happen.

I want to get the EAC3 5.1 turned into AC3 5.1, without recoding. Seems like an impossible task.
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AFAIR, there are different formats of E-AC3: for Blu-ray, it's used to add extra channels to a legacy AC3 core; but there may also be "native E-AC3" which contains all channels in E-AC3 packets, without any legacy AC3 packets to add to (just E-AC3 packets having a different header than legacy AC3 packets, but probably the same data content?). If this is true, then I guess it could be repacked to legacy AC3 format if there was any designated packet converter.
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Then by definition, it can't be EAC3. I read the paper that Dolby Labs released as a PDF and EAC3 is supposed to be for adding 2 surround channels, making it 7.1. For compatibility, there is supposed to be a core of the 5.1.
This only applies to Blu-ray streams. You can also encode pure EAC3, which is used in broadcast in some countries, and probably various other sources as well (streaming, I guess?).

The specification of EAC3 technically includes a method for converting EAC3 to AC3 (for legacy SPDIF transmission), however I do not know if any software implements that.
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It's more complicated than that...
There is no AC3 core in this EAC3, but legacy decoders can decode parts of EAC3...

EAC3 is build in a way that that legacy decoders can decode some of the data to 640kbps AC3, which is what e.g. a old BD player or PS4 does when you are streaming netflix. While audio you get from netflix is 192kbps eac3, what your receiver gets is 640kbps ac3, which is converted by the AC3 decoder...

the way I understood it (from reading the white papers), is that it isn't actually decoding and reencoding eac3 (which obviously it can't), it converts the encoded eac3 stream directly to AC3 and losing some data (like the 2 extra channels maybe some frequencies depending on source bitrate, etc.) I have never come across any other codec that works like that, which is why it's so confusing... But your file doesn't have a core like DTS does...

there is no way to get AC3 from this file without reencoding...

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