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25th August 2017, 22:14 | #45081 | Link | |
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With ver. 0.91.11 I can get 10bit FSE (but result is the same - no HDR content is automatically recognized by TV as HDR with "passthrough HDR content ... + send HDR metadata checked ..."). Last edited by jeryll; 25th August 2017 at 22:17. Reason: typos |
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Also sometimes the driver (or maybe Windows 10?) seems to behave a little better with a small present queue (3 or 4), though it doesn't seem to matter with my current Windows version and driver combo. The "better" I noticed was a lack of presentation glitches with higher GPU loads compared to larger present queues. The sizes of the other queues didn't have an effect.
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25th August 2017, 22:50 | #45083 | Link | |
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I used the default "8" but sometimes for a second it goes to 5 and then up to 8 during rendering times of around 15ms-20ms, so I decided to try your method with 4 frames in advance. Thank you for the tip. |
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25th August 2017, 23:05 | #45084 | Link | |
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Isn't that risky then? Wouldn't a 4 frame queue go down to just 1 at those moment when rendering times spike?
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25th August 2017, 23:43 | #45086 | Link | |
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If you can switch manually to an HDR mode on the TV, you should be able to display HDR fine (although probably not with great bitrate/quality given the lack of GPU power and h/w acceleration for HDR10). @Madshi, looks like it confirms there is no point trying my HD7870, unless you think Windows 10 would make a difference (I don't think so).
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25th August 2017, 23:51 | #45087 | Link |
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Given that it looks like I can't help with my old 7870, you might want to ask in the Linker, Integral (and 2015-2017 JVCs as many JVC users have purchased either of these) threads on AVS for MadVR users of the Linker/Integral with a recent AMD supporting HDR to provide the feedback you need. Although these older devices don't have an OSD like the Vertex, they have the same ability to capture the HDR metadata (from the Windows GUI), so they could provide the same information I did (just the raw HEX, not decoded). Off the top of my head, I think at least Javs and Zombie10K are MadVR users, but whether they use Nvidia or AMD I couldn't say. Most of them are probably on nVidia, but you could get lucky. If you find a candidate using MadVR+HDR capable AMD+Linker or Integral and if they don't know how to capture the HDR metadata, feel free to suggest they PM me at AVS and I'll tell them what to do, it's very straightforward. If you'd like me to ask on your behalf, I'm happy to do that too.
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26th August 2017, 01:18 | #45088 | Link |
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Don't use ffdshow for 10 bit or HDR content it will harm your picture quality. Madshi will add native denoising at some point so either use your TV's built in denoising or just not at all, you really shouldn't need it for any decent quality content nowadays anyway.
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26th August 2017, 03:30 | #45089 | Link |
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I'm using ffdshow raw due to SVP. Since ffdshow blocks interaction between LAV and madVR, some PAL DVDs and 25p clips are detected as 29.97 and display doesn't switch to 75 Hz mode.
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26th August 2017, 08:07 | #45090 | Link |
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Ive never really been able to understand what madvr settings to use for DVD 480 from the USA and 576 from UK. I upscale everything to 4K with the 1080ti card.
If I set deinterlacing to Auto I get massive repeated frames on the USA 480 discs, if I leave that section unticked its perfect. Yet when I play a UK disc 576 with deinterlacing unticked I get tearing of the image... Can someone please help explain how this should be set up for 480 and 576 material? Everything is perfect for BD upscaled to 4K, but I still struggle with DVD... |
26th August 2017, 15:26 | #45093 | Link |
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Yesterday, I have watched a 4K HDR movie with MadVR + MPC-BE + LAV (all latest versions) and the colors were correct in windowed mode and incorrect (=looks pale) in FSE mode. The movie in FSE was not as colorful as in windowed mode.
I use Windows 10 (latest version) with HDR turned on, with AMD RX 480 and JVC X5000 projector (RGB 4:4:4 full). It is not clear to me if the HDR data is blocked in FSE mode. Turning off HDR gives an ugly image. Is there a solution? |
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26th August 2017, 17:53 | #45095 | Link |
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Thanks Manni, turning off HDR in the Windows panel did it. I am happy with the windowed mode, because the display does not have to switch between frequency modes all the time. The JVC X5000 is quite slow at switching. In windowed mode it switches at the beginning of the movie and after closing MPC BE.
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26th August 2017, 18:57 | #45096 | Link |
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About the display mode switcher, there's something wrong (to me), but it has nothing to do with new custom resolution tool, it was already here before 0.92.
In display modes list, I have: 1080p30, 1080p60 (1080p30 is working) Now I open a 30 fps file. I'd want madVR to switch to 1080p30 and not 1080p60. But, no, madVR will use 1080p60 no matter the order. I can understand why: higher refresh rate is often considered better. There's one exception though: motion interpolation. If I want my TV to do a better motion interpolation, I have to use a lower refresh rate. I know you think the interpolation is the same between 1080p30 and 1080p60 but it is not, and it's from an eye perspective. So, IMO, madVR should follow "written order" chosen by people, and not "higher from lower order". |
26th August 2017, 19:02 | #45098 | Link |
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I've never heard of native 30 fps content. The only thing I know is 29.97 NTSC, which is interlaced or telecined, so either 24p or 60p. What content would be native 30p?
Interlacing is a key problem here, with at least most "30p" content being interlaced, using a 30p mode would not allow proper deinterlacing, as that would result in 60 fps.
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@sneaker_ger: for a 29,97 fps progressive file:
If I remove 1080p60, it will use 1080p59. If I remove 1080p59, it will use 1080p50. If I remove 1080p50, it will use 1080p30. If I remove 1080p30, then it will use 1080p29. @nevcairiel: Quote:
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