Will 5.03 work with Gknot?

dvd2mpeg4 · 26th January 2003, 05:54

Just curious to know if the new divX 5.03 will work with GKnot .27 or is it only divX 5.02 compatible?

unimatrixzer0 · 26th January 2003, 06:09

I just tried to encode something and when it started the 2nd pass I got a whole bunch of errors and warnins. Couldn't open the .log file either. Don't think it even created one. Dunno if its gknot or if its something wrong with the codec.

unimatrixzer0 · 26th January 2003, 06:24

Just put 5.02 back on and all the warnings and errors were gone. Guess its not compatible with 5.03 yet.

hug0b0ss · 26th January 2003, 07:49

Even if 5.03 was compatible with Gknot.. IMO...i can't see there being any major improvements in picture quality compared to divx5.02 rips..
Staying with 5.02 is your best bet.. get the pro version .. if you don't have it already...

peace!

dvd2mpeg4 · 26th January 2003, 09:55

Thanks for the replies; I think I'll just wait until TheWEF or Doom9 gives the okay. Thanks for an AWESOME program in GKnot .27

colordog · 26th January 2003, 14:30

I just tried a whole bunch of encodings with GKnot 0.27 and DivX 5.0.3 -- they all had error saying they couldn't open filename.LOG at the end of the 1st pass - it looks like it's not being created (isn't in the directory). For instance:

11:24:38 PM: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\vobs\MOVIE\VIDEO_TS\Movie.avs
12:43:58 AM: Finished DivX5-First Pass. Duration: 1 hour, 19 minutes, 19 seconds.
12:43:58 AM: Trying to open Log-file.
12:43:58 AM: Error: Could not open C:\vobs\MOVIE\VIDEO_TS\Movie.log
12:43:58 AM: Error: Could not count encoded Frames.
12:43:58 AM: Speed: 0.000 Frames per Second.
12:43:58 AM: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
12:43:58 AM: WARNING: Settings: 141494
12:43:58 AM: WARNING: Counted: 0
12:43:58 AM: WARNING: Difference: 141494
12:43:58 AM: Correcting Bitrate...
12:43:58 AM: Original Bitrate = 1121 k(=1000)Bits/s
12:43:58 AM: ERROR: Correction impossible.
12:43:58 AM: Now encoding at 1121 k(=1000)Bits/s

killingspree · 26th January 2003, 14:41

have you uninstalled the previous divX version before installing 5.03? i ahd the same problem when i installed 5.02 over 5.01. it helped to uninstall both and then reinstall only 5.02. also this could be an adware problem, if you didn't remove it correctly this sometimes also happens. so if you don't want to switch back to 5.02 try to do a clean reinstall first.

regards
steVe

colordog · 26th January 2003, 15:24

I didn't officially uninstall 5.0.2 before installing 5.0.3, but I was fairly sure that the upgrade program removed the 5.0.2 components first, but perhaps I'm wrong.

I can say for sure that this isn't an adware issue, because I'm not using the ad-ware supported version (Yup, I actually paid for it).

jonny · 26th January 2003, 16:04

No, it's not compatible, the internal codec data format is changed so changes in the code must be made to reflect this (same goes for divx5enc and all the others programs that generate codec parameters)

hug0b0ss · 26th January 2003, 20:00

Quote:

have you uninstalled the previous divX version before installing 5.03? i ahd the same problem when i installed 5.02 over 5.01. it helped to uninstall both

This is the thing that upsets me about divx...
Unlike DirectX for example which will remove and overwrite the necessary files for you automatically...DivX does not .. which will lead to Gknot crashes if it has not been removed and then freshly installed..I think the DivX team needs to address this issue..

Peace!!

Evil Andy · 27th January 2003, 11:41

Actually DivX 5.0.3 seems to find, remove and overwrite the correct files just fine.

As Jonny said it just doesn't work with Gordian Knot. The CLI has changed so Gordian Knot can't call the codec correctly and the format of the first pass log file has also changed so Gordian Knot can't read that for compressibility checks.

killingspree · 27th January 2003, 17:24

somehow it doesn't seem to work with virtuldub either.
what i did:
ripped the dvd
created d2v project
importet in gordian knot
- bitrate calc, resizing, cropping
saved the avs file
imported the avs into vdub
made a job list:
first pass (using no special settings)
2nd (nth) pass...

but after virtualdub has (succesfully i think) encoded the first pass, it cannot load the divx.log file, instead it tries to overwrite the existing one with the nth pass feature.

what am i doing wrong?
regards
steVe

PS: i'm hoping for an adapted version of gknot since i just love this program! (:

cpuuk · 28th January 2003, 12:49

Just adding my comfirmation- I did a clean install of win2k OS and put in GK 27, plus the new 503 DivXpro, and I too get the "unable to create *.log/ 0000 frames per second/ frame count mismatch" error messages.

jonny · 28th January 2003, 13:01

The problem is not only related to the log file.
Using GKnot with DivX5.03 means that you are passing wrong data to the codec. So the settings you have specified are probably not keeped (b-frames, gmc, qpel, rc parameters...).
There is no sense to test... it's technically not possible to make GKnot 0.27 work with 5.03.

Cyco · 28th January 2003, 18:09

Quote:

Originally posted by jonny
The problem is not only related to the log file.
Using GKnot with DivX5.03 means that you are passing wrong data to the codec. So the settings you have specified are probably not keeped (b-frames, gmc, qpel, rc parameters...).
There is no sense to test... it's technically not possible to make GKnot 0.27 work with 5.03.

Interesting... I have updated the 5.02 DivX codec to 5.03... Then I tested it with GKnot and it worked...
No errors in log file and the new *.avi was ok.

cpuuk · 28th January 2003, 20:50

Quote:

Originally posted by jonny
The problem is not only related to the log file.
Using GKnot with DivX5.03 means that you are passing wrong data to the codec. So the settings you have specified are probably not keeped (b-frames, gmc, qpel, rc parameters...).
There is no sense to test... it's technically not possible to make GKnot 0.27 work with 5.03.

Did you use any of the Pro features during the encode?

jonny · 29th January 2003, 00:39

Quote:

Interesting... I have updated the 5.02 DivX codec to 5.03... Then I tested it with GKnot and it worked...
No errors in log file and the new *.avi was ok.

Interesting too

The next time you have a succesful encode with GKnot0.27+DivX5.0.3, please go to VDub > Video > Compression > DivX Pro 5.0.3 Codec to see what are the settings for the encode you have done...

My last post in this thread

bullfrog · 29th January 2003, 12:31

It does not work either with the compressibility test?

we can use the test of compressibility and later we make the manual codification with VirtualdubMod...

Thanks

jonny · 29th January 2003, 14:52

To make a comp. test i suggest you to take a look here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44414

Evil Andy · 30th January 2003, 18:02

@jonny
I think you're misunderstanding, I believe they mean they're using Gordian Knot to calculate the bitrates and generate the avs files and then loading them into VDub and setting compression settings etc. manually.

@killingspree
VDub's working fine. In n-pass DivX overwrites the log file each pass as it re-examines its distribution of bitrate. You can stop it asking if it's ok to overwrite the file by checking the box marked Do not prompt for errors and warnings.

26th January 2003, 05:54	#1 \| Link
dvd2mpeg4 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Will 5.03 work with Gknot? Just curious to know if the new divX 5.03 will work with GKnot .27 or is it only divX 5.02 compatible?

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killingspree Newbie Forum Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: way too deep in (cyber)space Posts: 2,436	have you uninstalled the previous divX version before installing 5.03? i ahd the same problem when i installed 5.02 over 5.01. it helped to uninstall both and then reinstall only 5.02. also this could be an adware problem, if you didn't remove it correctly this sometimes also happens. so if you don't want to switch back to 5.02 try to do a clean reinstall first. regards steVe __________________ Search the forum, read the forum rules once more and use the search function on doom9.org before posting! oh btw my amazon.de wishlist

27th January 2003, 11:41	#11 \| Link
Evil Andy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 76	Actually DivX 5.0.3 seems to find, remove and overwrite the correct files just fine. As Jonny said it just doesn't work with Gordian Knot. The CLI has changed so Gordian Knot can't call the codec correctly and the format of the first pass log file has also changed so Gordian Knot can't read that for compressibility checks. __________________ It's funny, kicking everything in the room to pieces didn't help like I thought it would.

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killingspree Newbie Forum Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: way too deep in (cyber)space Posts: 2,436	vdub somehow it doesn't seem to work with virtuldub either. what i did: ripped the dvd created d2v project importet in gordian knot - bitrate calc, resizing, cropping saved the avs file imported the avs into vdub made a job list: first pass (using no special settings) 2nd (nth) pass... but after virtualdub has (succesfully i think) encoded the first pass, it cannot load the divx.log file, instead it tries to overwrite the existing one with the nth pass feature. what am i doing wrong? regards steVe PS: i'm hoping for an adapted version of gknot since i just love this program! (: __________________ Search the forum, read the forum rules once more and use the search function on doom9.org before posting! oh btw my amazon.de wishlist

28th January 2003, 13:01	#14 \| Link
jonny Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 876	The problem is not only related to the log file. Using GKnot with DivX5.03 means that you are passing wrong data to the codec. So the settings you have specified are probably not keeped (b-frames, gmc, qpel, rc parameters...). There is no sense to test... it's technically not possible to make GKnot 0.27 work with 5.03. Last edited by jonny; 28th January 2003 at 14:37.

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unimatrixzer0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 61	I just tried to encode something and when it started the 2nd pass I got a whole bunch of errors and warnins. Couldn't open the .log file either. Don't think it even created one. Dunno if its gknot or if its something wrong with the codec.

26th January 2003, 06:24	#3 \| Link
unimatrixzer0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 61	Just put 5.02 back on and all the warnings and errors were gone. Guess its not compatible with 5.03 yet.

26th January 2003, 07:49	#4 \| Link
hug0b0ss Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 8	Even if 5.03 was compatible with Gknot.. IMO...i can't see there being any major improvements in picture quality compared to divx5.02 rips.. Staying with 5.02 is your best bet.. get the pro version .. if you don't have it already... peace!

26th January 2003, 09:55	#5 \| Link
dvd2mpeg4 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Thanks for the replies; I think I'll just wait until TheWEF or Doom9 gives the okay. Thanks for an AWESOME program in GKnot .27

26th January 2003, 15:24	#8 \| Link
colordog Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 219	I didn't officially uninstall 5.0.2 before installing 5.0.3, but I was fairly sure that the upgrade program removed the 5.0.2 components first, but perhaps I'm wrong. I can say for sure that this isn't an adware issue, because I'm not using the ad-ware supported version (Yup, I actually paid for it).

26th January 2003, 16:04	#9 \| Link
jonny Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 876	No, it's not compatible, the internal codec data format is changed so changes in the code must be made to reflect this (same goes for divx5enc and all the others programs that generate codec parameters)

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cpuuk Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 59	Just adding my comfirmation- I did a clean install of win2k OS and put in GK 27, plus the new 503 DivXpro, and I too get the "unable to create *.log/ 0000 frames per second/ frame count mismatch" error messages.

29th January 2003, 12:31	#18 \| Link
bullfrog Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 53	Compressibility test It does not work either with the compressibility test? we can use the test of compressibility and later we make the manual codification with VirtualdubMod... Thanks

29th January 2003, 14:52	#19 \| Link
jonny Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 876	To make a comp. test i suggest you to take a look here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44414

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Evil Andy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 76	@jonny I think you're misunderstanding, I believe they mean they're using Gordian Knot to calculate the bitrates and generate the avs files and then loading them into VDub and setting compression settings etc. manually. @killingspree VDub's working fine. In n-pass DivX overwrites the log file each pass as it re-examines its distribution of bitrate. You can stop it asking if it's ok to overwrite the file by checking the box marked Do not prompt for errors and warnings. __________________ It's funny, kicking everything in the room to pieces didn't help like I thought it would. Last edited by Evil Andy; 30th January 2003 at 18:10.

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