CoreCodec/H.264 Codec "CoreAVC" - Page 353

wanezhiling · 26th April 2012, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

RC for CoreAVC 3.1 is about to go out to testers by weeks end. For the testers in this thread... please send any bug reports in as fast as possible.

@Dan

http://www.mediafire.com/?xr7ynkl2fg59g1c

EVR CP + CoreAVC 3.0.1(hardware deinterlacing), failed.

EVR + CoreAVC 3.0.1(hardware deinterlacing), ok.

cyberbeing · 26th April 2012, 19:21

Did you ever fix the green bars (stride) problem with CoreAVC 3.0.1 when using xy-VSFilter Vertical Padding with EVR-CP or Haali Renderer?

Cyber-Mav · 28th April 2012, 22:23

i dont think they did

madshi · 30th April 2012, 08:40

@BetaBoy,

a while ago I asked you to look into supporting the MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat part of VIDEOINFOHEADER2, so downstream filters can get information like color decoding matrix etc from CoreAVC.

Now we're discussing ways to improve VSFilter. As you may know, VSFilter renders subtitles in YCbCr, even though subtitles are originally defined in RGB. As a result VSFilter has to do an RGB -> YCbCr conversion. For that VSFilter in the past always used the BT.601 matrix, even for HD videos. Obviously that's wrong, and we're discussing how to fix it now. This brings me back to DXVA_ExtendedFormat, which would be a great help with fixing VSFilter. Is there any chance you could fill DXVA_ExtendedFormat in a not too distant CoreAVC release? It shouldn't be too hard. Here's more information on how to fill it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...40#post1519740

Thanks.

Edit: nevcairiel just told me that some filters (especially the Haali Renderer!!) have problems when the DXVA_ExtendedFormat is set. That's a shame really. Hit Haali for me, please...

Not sure what to do now. Maybe DXVA_ExtendedFormat should only be set for filters that are known to support it?

BetaBoy · 30th April 2012, 18:12

MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat is on the todo for sure... we just have higher priorities atm. Getting 3.1 out now which now features 4:4:4 profile support sets us up for 4:2:2 profile (we are working on that now) and adding MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat support in 3.2 (but will likely call this 3.5).

We have also spent some time working on a new Haali Splitter which addresses the major issues in the 'Unofficial thread' here @ Doom9 and that will be included with CoreAVC 3.1.

madshi · 30th April 2012, 18:45

Sounds good, thanks.

benus · 2nd May 2012, 10:01

Hi BetaBoy.

Is this a good time for someone to ask when can we expect full featured version of CoreAVC 3.1 realesed.

pankov · 2nd May 2012, 10:42

And whar about CoreMVC? I know it will be a different product but what's the reason for the delay? Is it technical or licensing issues?

BetaBoy · 2nd May 2012, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by pankov

And whar about CoreMVC? I know it will be a different product but what's the reason for the delay? Is it technical or licensing issues?

CoreMVC 3D has been available for OEM/Developer licensing for over a year now. As far as a consumer decoder however we felt it was more important to get the last remaining features in CoreAVC before releasing it since its 99% based on it.

So we'll continue our non consumer CoreMVC 3D licensing for now and revisit the consumer directshow filter after 4:2:2 is added in v3.5 (Noting my previous post that we are jumping to v3.5 after v3.1 when we add 4:2:2.).

pankov · 3rd May 2012, 09:16

Thanks for te answer but I don't the reasons to delay the consumer decoder when you have it working for OEM/DEV.
You could offer the first ... and pretty much the only ... directshow MVC decoder and having both Haali's splitter and renderer at hand probably offer a full DS solution for 3D playback.
Am I the only one that hates comercial players like TMT and PowerDVD and craves for 3D in his favorite Direct Show player ... be it MPC-HC or Zoom Player or PotPlayer or other?

nevcairiel · 3rd May 2012, 09:36

You really expect Haali Renderer to do 3D?

The thing is so outdated these days, its not even funny anymore.

LigH · 3rd May 2012, 09:36

Then don't miss the fact that CoreAVC is a commercial decoder too. Just not half as expensive. And not locked to a specific GUI. A level of kindness to be returned by not exaggerating demands, I'd suggest.

pankov · 3rd May 2012, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

You really expect Haali Renderer to do 3D?

The thing is so outdated these days, its not even funny anymore.

A man can have dreams, right?

I do understand that it's very improbable to happen. I was just pointing out that they have all that's needed to start the work.
Is it really that hard to enable 3D in a renderer? Isn't it just enabling the correct resolution and refresh rate from the video card and presenting 1920x2160 frames at the right time? (at least that's my idea of what 3D Frame Packing is)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LigH

Then don't miss the fact that CoreAVC is a commercial decoder too. Just not half as expensive. And not locked to a specific GUI. A level of kindness to be returned by not exaggerating demands, I'd suggest.

Yes, I know it's a commercial decoder (I own a few licenses). But the idea is to have the ability to use it in your favorite player. And it's not only the GUI - it's the automation (remote control and such) that bothers me most.

nevcairiel · 3rd May 2012, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by pankov

Is it really that hard to enable 3D in a renderer? Isn't it just enabling the correct resolution and refresh rate from the video card and presenting 1920x2160 frames at the right time? (at least that's my idea of what 3D Frame Packing is)

For proper 3D support, you need special code for every GPU that you want to target.

rica · 21st May 2012, 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

So we'll continue our non consumer CoreMVC 3D licensing for now and revisit the consumer directshow filter after 4:2:2 is added in v3.5 (Noting my previous post that we are jumping to v3.5 after v3.1 when we add 4:2:2.).

Sorry, but it is never a convincing excuse.
Me and some folks are tired of asking "when".

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

CoreMVC 3D has been available for OEM/Developer licensing for over a year now. As far as a consumer decoder however we felt it was more important to get the last remaining features in CoreAVC before releasing it since its 99% based on it.

4:2:2 ?????
Consumer has been using Stereoscopic Player already.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

As stated CoreMVC is a separate product, but at its core it uses CoreAVC. Technically we already addd support for Haali's splitter for MVC streams with the 3.0 release but we are adding support for the MS directshow MVC spec before we release CoreMVC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaBoy

It has been out since last February, but only for OEM licensing in both library and directshow forms. Based on feedback we opted to push out a consumer directshow decoder till after we added 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 in CoreAVC. We will revisit a possible release afterwards.

I think I should start a new "non-existent Core MVC" thread.

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an3k · 22nd May 2012, 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

For proper 3D support, you need special code for every GPU that you want to target.

You can't just show a 3D video as done by YouTube or AviSynth (own script)? I doubt so!

an3k · 4th June 2012, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

You really expect Haali Renderer to do 3D?

The thing is so outdated these days, its not even funny anymore.

Quote:

Haali Media Splitter - Version 1.11.233.7 (20110830)
- FIX: Various DTS Audio bugs
- ADD: Improved DTS support
- ADD: Support for MVC 3D videos

see http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc/changelog

Do NOT use the download from the "official" website http://haali.su/mkv/ because development on this has afaik stopped. The latest Haali Splitter is always included in the latest CoreAVC Setup.
You don't have to buy CoreAVC to get the latest Haali Splitter. The legal download is located here https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads.php - you don't need to register!

BetaBoy · 7th June 2012, 16:22

We have finished adding 4:2:2 to CoreAVC but its not gonna make it into CoreAVC 3.1 (consumer) as we still need to do QA on it as there maybe some 4:2:0 slowdowns that need to be addressed. Otherwise we are still working on QA with CoreAVC 3.1.

We have also done some more work on Haali's splitter and added support for Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC-3) in MP4 containers. This will be available with CoreAVC 3.1 when its released.

flapane · 12th June 2012, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by flapane

With latest version of CoreAVC (2.5.5) on 7 x64 and HD5670, DXVA worked great with MPC-HC, but I couldn't enable it on WinTV live HDTV. The tray icon remains blue and the cpu sits at about 60%.
Furthermore, a guy from the WinTV tech support asked for more informations on CoreAVC API needed to set the GPU acceleration. I suppose that it may help to better understand the problem.
Any hints?
Thanks

Quote from May 2011.
Any updates?

BetaBoy · 12th June 2012, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by flapane

Quote from May 2011.
Any updates?

Nobody from Hauppauge contacted us, so no.

30th April 2012, 08:40	#7044 \| Link
madshi Registered Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,140	@BetaBoy, a while ago I asked you to look into supporting the MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat part of VIDEOINFOHEADER2, so downstream filters can get information like color decoding matrix etc from CoreAVC. Now we're discussing ways to improve VSFilter. As you may know, VSFilter renders subtitles in YCbCr, even though subtitles are originally defined in RGB. As a result VSFilter has to do an RGB -> YCbCr conversion. For that VSFilter in the past always used the BT.601 matrix, even for HD videos. Obviously that's wrong, and we're discussing how to fix it now. This brings me back to DXVA_ExtendedFormat, which would be a great help with fixing VSFilter. Is there any chance you could fill DXVA_ExtendedFormat in a not too distant CoreAVC release? It shouldn't be too hard. Here's more information on how to fill it: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...40#post1519740 Thanks. Edit: nevcairiel just told me that some filters (especially the Haali Renderer!!) have problems when the DXVA_ExtendedFormat is set. That's a shame really. Hit Haali for me, please... Not sure what to do now. Maybe DXVA_ExtendedFormat should only be set for filters that are known to support it? Last edited by madshi; 30th April 2012 at 08:48.

30th April 2012, 18:12	#7045 \| Link
BetaBoy CoreCodec Founder Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,421	MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat is on the todo for sure... we just have higher priorities atm. Getting 3.1 out now which now features 4:4:4 profile support sets us up for 4:2:2 profile (we are working on that now) and adding MS DXVA_ExtendedFormat support in 3.2 (but will likely call this 3.5). We have also spent some time working on a new Haali Splitter which addresses the major issues in the 'Unofficial thread' here @ Doom9 and that will be included with CoreAVC 3.1. __________________ Dan "BetaBoy" Marlin Ubiquitous Multimedia Technologies and Developer Tools http://corecodec.com Last edited by BetaBoy; 30th April 2012 at 18:14.

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benus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11	Question... Hi BetaBoy. Is this a good time for someone to ask when can we expect full featured version of CoreAVC 3.1 realesed.

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pankov Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 661	And whar about CoreMVC? I know it will be a different product but what's the reason for the delay? Is it technical or licensing issues? __________________ Z370M Pro4 \| i3-8100 \| 16GB RAM \| 256GB SSD + 40TB NAS NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (385.28) \| LG OLED65B7V Win 10 64bit 1803 + Zoom Player v14

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pankov Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 661	Thanks for te answer but I don't the reasons to delay the consumer decoder when you have it working for OEM/DEV. You could offer the first ... and pretty much the only ... directshow MVC decoder and having both Haali's splitter and renderer at hand probably offer a full DS solution for 3D playback. Am I the only one that hates comercial players like TMT and PowerDVD and craves for 3D in his favorite Direct Show player ... be it MPC-HC or Zoom Player or PotPlayer or other? __________________ Z370M Pro4 \| i3-8100 \| 16GB RAM \| 256GB SSD + 40TB NAS NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (385.28) \| LG OLED65B7V Win 10 64bit 1803 + Zoom Player v14

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cyberbeing Broadband Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,859	Did you ever fix the green bars (stride) problem with CoreAVC 3.0.1 when using xy-VSFilter Vertical Padding with EVR-CP or Haali Renderer?

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Cyber-Mav Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 244	i dont think they did

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madshi Registered Developer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9,140	Sounds good, thanks.

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nevcairiel Registered Developer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hamburg/Germany Posts: 10,346	You really expect Haali Renderer to do 3D? The thing is so outdated these days, its not even funny anymore. __________________ LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,782	Then don't miss the fact that CoreAVC is a commercial decoder too. Just not half as expensive. And not locked to a specific GUI. A level of kindness to be returned by not exaggerating demands, I'd suggest. __________________ New German Gleitz board MediaFire: x264 \| x265 \| VPx \| AOM \| Xvid

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BetaBoy CoreCodec Founder Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,421	We have finished adding 4:2:2 to CoreAVC but its not gonna make it into CoreAVC 3.1 (consumer) as we still need to do QA on it as there maybe some 4:2:0 slowdowns that need to be addressed. Otherwise we are still working on QA with CoreAVC 3.1. We have also done some more work on Haali's splitter and added support for Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC-3) in MP4 containers. This will be available with CoreAVC 3.1 when its released. __________________ Dan "BetaBoy" Marlin Ubiquitous Multimedia Technologies and Developer Tools http://corecodec.com Last edited by BetaBoy; 7th June 2012 at 16:41.