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Old 1st April 2003, 04:22   #1  |  Link
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DVD Overburning is it Possible?

I have a DVD-R disk that a friend gave to me and it has 6.1 GB of the DVD movie. The movie plays fine in the following stand alone DVD Players Pioneer DV-C503D and, Panasonic DMR-E30. He used DVD Decrypter to rip and burn the movie. The DVD burner is a CenDyne DVD 2X model and the DVD-R disk is a generic 1X disk. I have not tried this with my Sony DRU500A but now I am curious if overburning would work for me.
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Even though I don't have a dvd burner (Soon hopefully) I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I ask how your friend did it? Also, I will ask these next questions to everyone sense I doubt you know.

How much space can be used on an overburnt dvd? How compadible are these discs with dvd-roms and standalones?

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Including leadin and leadout, there's something like 4600 MB on a DVD-R disc. Maybe there's a bit more, as on CD-R, but 6.1 GB cannot be.

Besides that, which dvd recorder accepts a SET DVD STRUCTURE command, if the LBA is out of range?
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DVD-R/-RW wouldnt allow you to reserve a track of that size either.
DVD+R/+RW (where the reserve track command isnt needed) would just bomb out with a 'logical block out of range'.

So basically, your mate has done something very very weird!
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Guys, remember it's April 1st
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Shouldn't jokes made on April 1st be less obvious?

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Not when there are so many clueless newbies around!
This sort of thing it actually quite common!
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I really hate april 1st!!!
Ever since someone told me they were going to have a new star trek series based on the original crew and I got all excited about it.
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Not a Joke

This is not an April fools day joke. I have this disk and it has 6.1GB of movie on it. All the guy did was rip the Movie (MIB II) with DVD Decrypter and burn with DVD Decrypter. I cannot think of a way to show you Proof of this. But if anyone has a way that I can prove it... just write it down in this thread and I will try to make that request possible. However there are some people talking about this over at dvdrhelp.com in there formus as well; just do a search for DVD overbuning. I live in Dallas if that helps any one and I am willing to show them the disk in person.
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Insert the disc, load DVD Decryptor and make a screenshot of the media info
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I live in Carrollton. 20 miles north of Dallas. Come show me. email me, I would like to know how this is possible.
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Sounds Good

Help. I have never made a screen shot before. With what program can I make a Screen shot.

To the person in Carrolton no problem just send me a private message with your e-mail address and I will e-mail you and set up a time and place to let you check it out.

It's getting late here and I have to go to work in the morning I will try to get the information up as soon as possible. I will not be able to check this thread until April 03, 2003 about 10:00pm or so.

Please be patient with me I am no computer wiz.
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To make a screenshot of the whole screen just push the Print screen button on your keyboard. If you just want the current active window push alt-Print Screen. They will put the picture on the clipboard where you can paste into paint and save as a jpeg. Then you can post it on the site and after a moderator aproves it, we will all be able to see it.

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take a breath, think about it, don't fall for it.
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YEah...

I personally suceeded in making 100 movies (435 GB) fit on one single DVD-R yesterday.

Gee, when I hit the table by accident, the whole movie pile fell on the ground !

Scientifically speaking, I think the only limit to how many Gigabytes of movies you can fit on a single DVD-R is your roof height.

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my email is tingwc@NOSPAM.myrealbox.com. (remove the NOSPAM). Email me and I'll come over to check your "overburned DVD-r".. what part of dallas are you in.
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Like I said before, I don't have a DVD-burner. So, it doesn't matter to me if it is true or not. I don't think it is true, but Might as well help him 'prove' it.

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T0: tingwc I sent you an e-mail I hope when you see this DVD-R disk you can help me prove that this is real.


When I get home tonight April 02, 2003. I will try to upload a screen shot of this disks capacity; around midnight Central Standard Time. I do not have a DVD-ROM drive at work.


To the rest of the people reading this thread I did not believe that this was possible either. I am still having a hard time accepting that this is true (until I can duplicate this myself). I do not know the exact way my friend used DVD Decrypter to burn the disk (I am going to investigate this). I can understand why people are making fun of me. Heck, even I would be firing off some jabs if someone said they overburned a DVD-R to 6.1GB capacity. I am willing to do everything in my power to prove that this disk is real. Hopefully I will try to duplicate another overburned DVD-R as soon as possible.

If I am wrong I have enough intregrity to admit that I screwed up and will post what I did wrong.
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Help

I am trying to insert the image file (jpg) into the text of this post but I am doing something wrong with this vB code. I have never added any images to a post before. Below is what happens when I try to insert a picture. Yes I have read the help on the vB Code.



Any way DVD Decrypter in file mode says that the disk has 51 files and 6,450,164KB

In ISO Mode it reads

Device Information:
Current Profile: DVD-ROM

Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 2,097,151
Size: 4,294,965,248 bytes
Time: 466:04:01 (MM:SS:FF)

Physical Format Information:
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track

I do not know why in file mode it reads much higher in size than ISO mode.

As soon as someone helps me out on this image problem I will post the screen shots of DVD Decrypter. If someone wants to private message me and give me their e-mail address I will email the jpegs.

I talked to the guy who did this and he says that he ripped and burned the disk in ISO mode (used the buttons DVD to Hard drive and Hard drive to DVD) he has the cendyne DVD burner that shows up in the Hardware Properties in Windows as the pioneer AO5 drive.
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Re: Help

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Sectors: 2,097,151
Size: 4,294,965,248 bytes
Time: 466:04:01 (MM:SS:FF)
And how is that equal to 6,450,164 KB?
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