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Old 22nd July 2017, 19:32   #44401  |  Link
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Luma doubling quality is more important than chroma upscaling quality. Lower chroma down to medium before lowering the luma doubling quality.
Thanks, so I'm using Chroma to medium and Luma Very High.

Still need to test, it reach to 34-38 ms .


By the way, we can't use Exclusive D3D11 anymore with HDR ? it disable HDR mode when entering Full Exclusive mode. so no need for it or it's not supported ?

Windowed mode is enough for HDR mode at the moment ?
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Old 22nd July 2017, 20:35   #44402  |  Link
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driver problem: https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=44259

no one ever said you need FSE mode.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 20:39   #44403  |  Link
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driver problem: https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...ostcount=44259

no one ever said you need FSE mode.

Do you know if I still need to use Artifact removal with 1080p content with 4K TV ?

Also I should cancel Reduce dark halos around bright edges , too if I want Anime right ?


in the end of what Madshi says , he means if I have Nvidia and using driver 384.72 then my TV changes to HDR perfect ? because my TV changes to HDR with a small notification, but does it mean it's perfect and no conversion is happening without Enabling HDR from the windows 10 ?

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Old 22nd July 2017, 21:00   #44404  |  Link
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Do you know if I still need to use Artifact removal with 1080p content with 4K TV ?
you "need" artifact reduction to remove the artifacts if you don't see the difference don't use it.
your output resolution obviously has nothing todo with it.

you should only use setting you can see.


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Also I should cancel Reduce dark halos around bright edges , too if I want Anime right ?
the description isn't wrong. but not sure if you need it in the first place.
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in the end of what Madshi says , he means if I have Nvidia and using driver 384.72 then my TV changes to HDR perfect ? because my TV changes to HDR with a small notification, but does it mean it's perfect and no conversion is happening without Enabling HDR from the windows 10 ?
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5) Nvidia comes to the rescue of all HTPC users who want perfect quality for both SDR and HDR content: Nvidia's private HDR API allows madVR to dynamically switch the TV into and out of HDR mode, as needed. For this to work, you need to deactivate the OS "HDR and advanced color" switch.
yes. depends on the point of view.
without FSE you are not getting 10 bit output.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 21:13   #44405  |  Link
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Is it typical for the "present queue" to drop when the progress bar appears in full screen? My "present queue" drops from 7-8/8 to 1-2/2 when the progress bar appears and this leads to dropped frames and possibly the culprit for audio sync issues.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 22:06   #44406  |  Link
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You mean seek bar? Yes. That's by design. You're not supposed to watch the video with that bar visible. However, it shouldn't cause audio sync issues.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 22:28   #44407  |  Link
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The reason for this is because otherwise the bar would have a delay of the number of frame in the present queue, which at 8-frames is pretty unpleasant.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 22:29   #44408  |  Link
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You mean seek bar? Yes. That's by design. You're not supposed to watch the video with that bar visible. However, it shouldn't cause audio sync issues.
Yes seek bar. Thanks for the feedback. I'm just trying to work through all of the components to figure out what is causing my audio seek issues.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 23:03   #44409  |  Link
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yes. depends on the point of view.
without FSE you are not getting 10 bit output.
You can get HDR and 10bit output without FSE: just use the win10 HDR switch and play the video in windowed fullscreen (cf. last version release notes). Given how little HDR content is out there, switching HDR manually from time to time to get the best output possible isn't that big of a deal.
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Old 23rd July 2017, 06:09   #44410  |  Link
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I have a problem have set HDR windowed mode because then it won't be 10 bit and only 8 bit. It says it's NV12 8 bit.

I needed to enable HDR in windows because then it won't be 10 bit and only D3D11 8 bit. I have a notification on my TV HDR mode when I run the HDR movie.

could you tell me what is wrong and what a settings I could change to fix it ?

http://i.imgur.com/0WCPAgy.jpg

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Old 23rd July 2017, 10:32   #44411  |  Link
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Im curious, my PC seems to play all movies fine.
Except when I try and play a 10bit HDR movie.
Kodi seem's to be crashing....

What could be the cause of this?
Is this possibly the HEVC decoding I do with the GPU? (should I unclick that?)

(I am using Full Screen Exclusive on the older non-buggy NVIDIA Drivers)
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Old 23rd July 2017, 10:45   #44412  |  Link
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Madshi, chances of SDR to HDR upconversion?
The whitepaper is MIA, wonder if this can be done in real time, likely not yet.. Maybe some years off.

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Old 23rd July 2017, 12:54   #44413  |  Link
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Im curious, my PC seems to play all movies fine.
Except when I try and play a 10bit HDR movie.
Kodi seem's to be crashing....

What could be the cause of this?
Is this possibly the HEVC decoding I do with the GPU? (should I unclick that?)

(I am using Full Screen Exclusive on the older non-buggy NVIDIA Drivers)
Stating specific and exact revision number of driver is better than saying "older non-buggy". GPU? OS? What hardware decoding mode are you using? DXVA2 copy-back is recommended.
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Old 23rd July 2017, 13:06   #44414  |  Link
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Stating specific and exact revision number of driver is better than saying "older non-buggy". GPU? OS? What hardware decoding mode are you using? DXVA2 copy-back is recommended.
Ryzen 5 1600
GTX 1080
Nvidia Driver Version 378.92
Windows 10 Enterprise Creators Editions
Using DXVA2 Copy Back
(Using Ryzen 5 results in 90-100% CPU-load and not filled qeue's on for example "The World in HDR in 4k demo" so that's not an option either, even if it would have been, it still crashes)

After some testing it crashes on both windowed and on FSE, so atleast that's not the culprit.

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"The World in HDR in 4k demo"
Are we talking HEVC 10 bit or VP9 10 bit?
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Old 23rd July 2017, 13:16   #44416  |  Link
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"The World in HDR in 4k demo"
Are we talking HEVC 10 bit or VP9 10 bit?
HEVC 10 bit

http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=159

Ps. Im using DSPlayer, not MPC-HC.
Not sure if that's the culprit?

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Old 23rd July 2017, 14:09   #44417  |  Link
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HEVC 10 bit

http://demo-uhd3d.com/fiche.php?cat=uhd&id=159

Ps. Im using DSPlayer, not MPC-HC.
Not sure if that's the culprit?

How to watch this video in potplayer + lav filters + MAdvr in 10 bit ? I'm only getting 8 bit.

EDIT : need to enable windows 10 creators HDR ON.

D3D11 windowed 10bit
but it still says NV12 8 bit, does it need to be 10bit ?

This video is working fine for me from start to end , CPU 40% I7 3770K and GPU max 1080 ,

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Old 23rd July 2017, 14:14   #44418  |  Link
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Recently i removed k-lite codec pack and changed to individual installation for MPC-HC, MadVR and codecs. Now MadVR is not displaying UTvideo files anymore. MPC-HC screen stay black with no playback when start UTvideo file. For other codecs(MagicYUV,H264,HEVC) it plays fine. Changing renderer from madVR to EVR-CP UTvideo plays correctly.

Im not 100% secure but i think i played UTvideo files with MadVR over k-lite installation and played fine, so i dont know what become wrong. Any advise?
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Old 23rd July 2017, 14:28   #44419  |  Link
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Recently i removed k-lite codec pack and changed to individual installation for MPC-HC, MadVR and codecs. Now MadVR is not displaying UTvideo files anymore. MPC-HC screen stay black with no playback when start UTvideo file. For other codecs(MagicYUV,H264,HEVC) it plays fine. Changing renderer from madVR to EVR-CP UTvideo plays correctly.

Im not 100% secure but i think i played UTvideo files with MadVR over k-lite installation and played fine, so i dont know what become wrong. Any advise?
Just use MPC-HC + LavFilters+ madVR you don't need anything else. add the filters to the external filters list and everything will work. if you want better players use Potplayer x64 bit or MPDN x64 . MPC-HC is slow old and look ugly without any great features that potplayer can do. 3D - Screenshots - Repeat - ,, just about everything.
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Old 23rd July 2017, 14:58   #44420  |  Link
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MPC-HC is slow old
Slow ? Have you proofs it is slower than another player ?
Old ? Are you the kind of user who needs his monthly updates whereas he doesn't even need a new feature ?
PotPlayer stole code from other projects and so is not welcomed on this forum. MPDN x64 is an alternative to madVR and recommending it in this thread is not welcomed too.

I don't want to debate this off-topic anymore. I just wanted to tell you I saw what you did, and it was ugly.
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