madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted) - Page 2891

mclingo · 18th November 2019, 14:16

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Originally Posted by nsnhd

Try changing the *highlight recovery strength* to None as that eats so much performances. RX 580 is similarly powerful as my gtx 1060 6gb and it can not afford this setting on.

i'll have a look at that, I was using that for that particular scene in harry potter, i'll have a proper play with it before I sack it off.

Thanks.

SirMaster · 18th November 2019, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsnhd

Try changing the *highlight recovery strength* to None as that eats so much performances. RX 580 is similarly powerful as my gtx 1060 6gb and it can not afford this setting on.

Hmm on my laptop GTX 1060 MaxQ I can have highlight recovery strength on and the performance is just fine.

Alucard777 · 18th November 2019, 23:54

hii ..

I'm currently using mpv with svp but i'm missing madvr alot and if I use mpc-hc with madvr & svp >> ( need ffdshow ) then the hdr will not passthrough !! ..
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:SVP

can any one confirm if the vapoursynth will be added to madvr ?

if yes will hdr 10 bit passthrough with svp (smooth video project ) ?

thank you

ryrynz · 19th November 2019, 03:26

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Originally Posted by Alucard777

can any one confirm if the vapoursynth will be added to madvr ?

At some stage madshi was looking to add support for this but it will either happen in 5-10 years or not at all. I asked pinterf about 10bit parsing/support in ffdshow but he's too busy for this. Honestly I hold no hope of this ever being done in the 2020s if at all.

Alexkral · 19th November 2019, 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard777

if I use mpc-hc with madvr & svp >> ( need ffdshow ) then the hdr will not passthrough !! ..

If you add "hdr=on" or "transfer=hdr" to the file name you'll get passthrough even using ffdshow.

Magik Mark · 19th November 2019, 06:08

Can someone help me create a profile in "DEVICES" for SDR and HDR?

Basically if video is SDR then use SDR Profile
if video is HDR then use HDR Profile

Both in "Devices"

I'm confused reading madshi FAQ

Thanks

huhn · 19th November 2019, 12:42

click on your device name create profile 2 times name them HDR and SDR

if (HDR==true) "HDR"
else "SDR"

Magik Mark · 19th November 2019, 13:03

Thanks a lot!

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DMU · 19th November 2019, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

click on your device name create profile 2 times name them HDR and SDR

if (HDR==true) "HDR"
else "SDR"

Who runs this profile rule on the AMD Ryzen iGPU correctly?
I can’t achieve this.

huhn · 19th November 2019, 14:25

he ask me to detect HDR not changing the bit deep.
the properties page is not used properly the rest is.

DMU · 19th November 2019, 14:58

Yes it is clear. But how then to change the bitdepth of the output of the madVR depending on the HDR? This is necessary for owners of AMD video cards, as their API does not support HDR with 8 bits.

huhn · 19th November 2019, 15:33

if (HDR== true) and (bitdepth==10) "HDR"
else "SDR"

maybe he will fix these bugs one day.

maybe he will update the AGS which has been updated according to "user" feat back so it may support 8 bit finally.

maybe just get an nvidia card if you want to use madVR because the developer is clearly favouring and recommending them. it is as it is...

cork_OS · 19th November 2019, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexkral

If you add "hdr=on" or "transfer=hdr" to the file name you'll get passthrough even using ffdshow.

I confirm it. I'm watching 4K HDR movies using MPC-HC+SVP+madVR thanks to this trick.
It would be better if madshi will add a hotkey to force HDR mode passthrough though.

mclingo · 19th November 2019, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMU

Yes it is clear. But how then to change the bitdepth of the output of the madVR depending on the HDR? This is necessary for owners of AMD video cards, as their API does not support HDR with 8 bits.

where would you come accross an 8bit HDR movie though?

DMU · 19th November 2019, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

maybe he will update the AGS which has been updated according to "user" feat back so it may support 8 bit finally.

This is sad. Now there is already the ability to dynamically control the Windows HDR switch using DXGI. So, there is no particular need for the use of the HDR private API's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclingo

where would you come accross an 8bit HDR movie though?

8 bit output needed for SDR content. But profiles for switching between HDR and SDR do not work. I gave the link above.

huhn · 19th November 2019, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclingo

where would you come accross an 8bit HDR movie though?

where did you come accross a 10 bit RGB source?

Devrim · 19th November 2019, 21:50

Does anyone here use MadVR on Windows 10 LTSC? Are there any issues with it?

redbtn · 20th November 2019, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devrim

Does anyone here use MadVR on Windows 10 LTSC? Are there any issues with it?

I use. No issues whatsoever

mclingo · 20th November 2019, 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMU

This is sad. Now there is already the ability to dynamically control the Windows HDR switch using DXGI. So, there is no particular need for the use of the HDR private API's.

8 bit output needed for SDR content. But profiles for switching between HDR and SDR do not work. I gave the link above.

i'm probably just misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying that MADVR is failing to recognise and switch to a HDR profile based on bit rate on AMD cards due to an API issue with HDR?

I tried creating a HDR profile ages ago and couldnt not get it work but I decided I didnt need it anyway so I havent looked at it again until now. I'm looking at it again now as I'm trying to get my processing below 30ms with tone mapping and using NGU AA on my RX580.

i'm pretty close now with these settings, can anyone recommend any other tweaks to give me a few exta miliseconds?

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgvFafeelEBigqsK...SPe_g?e=Kthzck

huhn · 20th November 2019, 03:07

the card it self has nothing to do with this it's the bad API from AMD that is related but the bug is in madVR. and the bug is that the properties are ignored in profiles when "HDR" is used for a check but work if bitdepth are used for the check.

if AMD would work with 8 bit he wouldn't need an profile because he would just use 8 bit (which was been proven to be better for consumer TVs over and over again) but that's not possible because the API is super limited.

all this doesn't change that there is a bug in madVR.

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DMU Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 74	Yes it is clear. But how then to change the bitdepth of the output of the madVR depending on the HDR? This is necessary for owners of AMD video cards, as their API does not support HDR with 8 bits. __________________ R3 2200G / Vega8 / Samsung UE40NU7100 Win10Pro 1909 / 4K RGB 60Hz / AMD19.10.1 MPC-HC 1.8.8 / madVR 0.92.17 / FSW / 10bit@60Hz

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Alucard777 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 2	hii .. I'm currently using mpv with svp but i'm missing madvr alot and if I use mpc-hc with madvr & svp >> ( need ffdshow ) then the hdr will not passthrough !! .. https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:SVP can any one confirm if the vapoursynth will be added to madvr ? if yes will hdr 10 bit passthrough with svp (smooth video project ) ? thank you

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 5,961	click on your device name create profile 2 times name them HDR and SDR if (HDR==true) "HDR" else "SDR"

19th November 2019, 14:25	#57810 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 5,961	he ask me to detect HDR not changing the bit deep. the properties page is not used properly the rest is.

19th November 2019, 15:33	#57812 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 5,961	if (HDR== true) and (bitdepth==10) "HDR" else "SDR" maybe he will fix these bugs one day. maybe he will update the AGS which has been updated according to "user" feat back so it may support 8 bit finally. maybe just get an nvidia card if you want to use madVR because the developer is clearly favouring and recommending them. it is as it is...

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Devrim Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 57	Does anyone here use MadVR on Windows 10 LTSC? Are there any issues with it?

20th November 2019, 03:07	#57820 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 5,961	the card it self has nothing to do with this it's the bad API from AMD that is related but the bug is in madVR. and the bug is that the properties are ignored in profiles when "HDR" is used for a check but work if bitdepth are used for the check. if AMD would work with 8 bit he wouldn't need an profile because he would just use 8 bit (which was been proven to be better for consumer TVs over and over again) but that's not possible because the API is super limited. all this doesn't change that there is a bug in madVR.