Card recommendation

ookzDVD · 11th March 2002, 11:32

I think there are a lot of TV/Video Card available on the market.

I really want to ask which one is good enough for $100-$200 ?

Is that ATI All in Wonder good choice ?
or there are other brands ?

My second question is which one is better for TV capturing ?
use TV card or Video-in from Video Card and capture from analog TV ?

Thank you.

Ookami · 11th March 2002, 13:53

It depends. What do you want? What is good quality for you? When converting a DVD, what is enough for you? Do you want to cobvert your VHS tapes too? Do you have the time and will to spend hours of testing for HQ captures? And so on.

IMO, all the answers you need are already here, just take the time and read a bit.

Cheers,

Ookie.

dvdwizard · 11th March 2002, 18:03

DV-Raptor ($300.00) go for a little bit of quality.

Scuba · 11th March 2002, 18:47

Dose the Raptor have analoge inputs and/Or TV inputs

ookzDVD · 12th March 2002, 05:02

hi Ookami,

I think the quality is depend on the price isn't it ?
my budget is about < $200.

640X... or above 352x... is ok for me.

I hope you could suggest me some cards to start.

Thank you.

Scuba · 12th March 2002, 12:00

Look for a used DV500+ on Ebay
With little luck you will get it under 200$

Darklord · 7th July 2002, 20:42

Okay, I have a question regarding capture cards.

I am looking at getting a Leadtek A250 TD GeForce 4 Ti4400 card.

According to Leadtek, it captures at 720X480.

Anyone know of anyone using this card? experiences?

outlyer · 8th July 2002, 03:43

just keep in mind that if you get a MJPEG based card, you'll be losing some quality (even if it's a high-end one), so if you're a quality freak get a card without compression capabilities. They are also cheaper, but as RGB video is heavy you'll need a powerful computer to compress the video on-the-fly.

Darklord · 8th July 2002, 04:40

So what would be a good card that capture without compression at 720x480?

I presume if I want to get a good copy, I need to capture at this resolution right?

I burned a VCD of an mpg file captures at a lower resolution and it looks good on the computer, but looks like crap on the TV set.

Basically I want to capture TV shows I like, and then create VCD's/SVCD's that look good when I play them back.

Divine · 8th July 2002, 13:52

Get a nvidia ViVO card. (asus, leadtek etc)
Those are the best.
I have an old tnt2 vivo card myself and i cap at uyvy 720x480 uncompressed / huffyuv without dropped frames. (System: athlon 1ghz , 256ddr udma 100 7200rpm hd.)

Certainly DON'T get an ati card. The driver support and capture performance is really poor.
I have an Ati radeon 7500 vivo card in a 2nd system (same specs as above) and i can't even capture without dropped frames at 720x480.
The highest i can go without dropped frames is 480x480.
I also think the Video-in on ATI cards is blurring the source/image too much.

I have also had a bt8x8 card, but it wouldn't want to work properly on both of my via systems.
That is, green stripes appeared in the image (no not interlacing) when there was any comp activity. (moving the mouse, hd reading/writing etc)
Probably the old via bug again.....

outlyer · 8th July 2002, 16:53

I agree, get a nvidia with ViVo

Darklord · 8th July 2002, 17:04

Cool, thanks for the advice.

I have a system more than capable of handling the power requirements.

Athlon 1.73ghz.
1gb ram
4 x 80gb. 7200 rpm hard drives

The Leadtek I was looking did say VIVO, so I'll go ahead and get that one. I personally hate the ATI cards. I think they suck. I work as a 3D animator and I have seen no end of driver problems with ATI and would never touch one unless I was suffering from alzheimers and didn't know better.

fireflayer · 18th July 2002, 03:05

personally i'd get a seperate capture card (leadtech winfast 2000 xp is very good for the price). then if you want to update your video card you don't need to worry about buying vivo all the time.

Custom_VCD · 19th July 2002, 07:52

AverTV Stereo is tought o beat as well, S-Video, Composite, Coaxial.

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ookzDVD DVD Rebuilder! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,147	Card recommendation I think there are a lot of TV/Video Card available on the market. I really want to ask which one is good enough for $100-$200 ? Is that ATI All in Wonder good choice ? or there are other brands ? My second question is which one is better for TV capturing ? use TV card or Video-in from Video Card and capture from analog TV ? Thank you.

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Ookami Xe-Rotaredom Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Croatia Posts: 1,029	It depends. What do you want? What is good quality for you? When converting a DVD, what is enough for you? Do you want to cobvert your VHS tapes too? Do you have the time and will to spend hours of testing for HQ captures? And so on. IMO, all the answers you need are already here, just take the time and read a bit. Cheers, Ookie. __________________ "Only those who attempt the absurd achieve the impossible."

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11th March 2002, 18:03	#3 \| Link
dvdwizard Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 35	DV-Raptor ($300.00) go for a little bit of quality.

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Scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 115	Dose the Raptor have analoge inputs and/Or TV inputs

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ookzDVD DVD Rebuilder! Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,147	hi Ookami, I think the quality is depend on the price isn't it ? my budget is about < $200. 640X... or above 352x... is ok for me. I hope you could suggest me some cards to start. Thank you.

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Scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 115	Look for a used DV500+ on Ebay With little luck you will get it under 200$

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Darklord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 43	Okay, I have a question regarding capture cards. I am looking at getting a Leadtek A250 TD GeForce 4 Ti4400 card. According to Leadtek, it captures at 720X480. Anyone know of anyone using this card? experiences?

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outlyer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 155	just keep in mind that if you get a MJPEG based card, you'll be losing some quality (even if it's a high-end one), so if you're a quality freak get a card without compression capabilities. They are also cheaper, but as RGB video is heavy you'll need a powerful computer to compress the video on-the-fly.

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Darklord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 43	So what would be a good card that capture without compression at 720x480? I presume if I want to get a good copy, I need to capture at this resolution right? I burned a VCD of an mpg file captures at a lower resolution and it looks good on the computer, but looks like crap on the TV set. Basically I want to capture TV shows I like, and then create VCD's/SVCD's that look good when I play them back.

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Divine Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Earth Posts: 33	Get a nvidia ViVO card. (asus, leadtek etc) Those are the best. I have an old tnt2 vivo card myself and i cap at uyvy 720x480 uncompressed / huffyuv without dropped frames. (System: athlon 1ghz , 256ddr udma 100 7200rpm hd.) Certainly DON'T get an ati card. The driver support and capture performance is really poor. I have an Ati radeon 7500 vivo card in a 2nd system (same specs as above) and i can't even capture without dropped frames at 720x480. The highest i can go without dropped frames is 480x480. I also think the Video-in on ATI cards is blurring the source/image too much. I have also had a bt8x8 card, but it wouldn't want to work properly on both of my via systems. That is, green stripes appeared in the image (no not interlacing) when there was any comp activity. (moving the mouse, hd reading/writing etc) Probably the old via bug again.....

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outlyer Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 155	I agree, get a nvidia with ViVo

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Darklord Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 43	Cool, thanks for the advice. I have a system more than capable of handling the power requirements. Athlon 1.73ghz. 1gb ram 4 x 80gb. 7200 rpm hard drives The Leadtek I was looking did say VIVO, so I'll go ahead and get that one. I personally hate the ATI cards. I think they suck. I work as a 3D animator and I have seen no end of driver problems with ATI and would never touch one unless I was suffering from alzheimers and didn't know better.

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fireflayer Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 5	personally i'd get a seperate capture card (leadtech winfast 2000 xp is very good for the price). then if you want to update your video card you don't need to worry about buying vivo all the time.

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Custom_VCD Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 34	AverTV Stereo is tought o beat as well, S-Video, Composite, Coaxial.