ffdshow tryouts project: Discussion & Development

[kirakami]

so ffdshow really no more
& here i thought it will reach r4000

[ikarad]

Originally Posted by Stephen R. Savage

AssRender.dll is an Avisynth plugin. You can't register it or use it in DirectShow, or anything like that.

As for ffdshow needing a new subtitle renderer, there's nothing stopping you from using the MPC-HC one or DirectVobSub. ffdshow development has halted and it is already planned to be replaced by LAVFilters anyway, so there's no sense in petitioning for feature changes.

Directvobsub is dead since 2008 and doens't support bluray subs.
MPc-HC sub rendere is dead since many years and no developpers works on sub renderer in mpc-hc.


If ffdshow is dead (how do you know that it's dead?), there is not alternative.

I doubt that lavfilters replace ffdshow because it's not the same thing. lav filters is just for decode audi oand video but there is no filters and no support of avisynth.

[ikarad]

Originally Posted by clsid

No. There are currently no developers working on ffdshow.

Why?

is it too difficult?

one year ago only, there were lots of progress with ffdshow (support of HD subs, support of dxva, support of HD audio, support of ffmepg-mt etc...)

Even some developpers like albain speak about the fusion between mpc-hc and ffdshow

[kirakami]

can't ffdshow keep going at least until r4000?
there r still issues with subtitles rendering
Vobsub hangs
still no support for SSA/ASS subs version 3 & 4 yet.

[nevcairiel]

Its not a matter of choice, there is just no-one capable and willing to work on it.

[Thunderbolt8]

what about these directvobsub builds, arent they working rather well? http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/index.php?fol...BzL3ZzZmlsdGVy

anyone able to explain why ffdshow is going to be discontinued? are its features superfluous now or kind of included in other tools as well and people dont want to waste time for the same thing twice?

if so which projects are going to replace (most of) the functions ffdshow ? LAVsplitter? mpc-hc?

[pirlouy]

Bah. Don't be that sad. One day, someone will feel a need for the same thing as you, and he will develop something. Think about Madshi, Nevcairiel; some time ago, nobody heard of those. Now you have good splitters, audio & video decoders, and a good renderer. In some time, someone will work on a good subtitle renderer (but maybe the best solution if it's developed by the one who works on renderer), and who knows, someone will rewrite post-processing stuff...

[hoborg]

Yes, subtitles need some good solution. But it should work undepended on aplication.

[Keiyakusha]

Originally Posted by pirlouy

Bah. Don't be that sad. One day, someone will feel a need for the same thing as you, and he will develop something. Think about Madshi, Nevcairiel; some time ago, nobody heard of those. Now you have good splitters, audio & video decoders, and a good renderer. In some time, someone will work on a good subtitle renderer (but maybe the best solution if it's developed by the one who works on renderer), and who knows, someone will rewrite post-processing stuff...

Noone really interested in subtitles that much cause there is no reliable standard to begin with. There was attempts by aegisub devs to start the project on new fast crossplatform renderer but it was put in hold until standard fully developed and finalized. The problem is, they don't want to release any specifications till its done so noone will implement partial support in vsfilter or something (which is right thing). So someone need to motivate them i guess...

[Thunderbolt8]

so which are the lastest available versions of ffdshow and which problems do they still have? 3972 can be found on xvidvideo.ru

[clsid]

ffdshow has not been discontinued. There simply won't be any significant changes for the foreseeable future. That will remain the case until new developers join the project.

Latest builds can be found on the SourceForge project page.

[Midzuki]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

so which are the lastest available versions of ffdshow and which problems do they still have? 3972 can be found on xvidvideo.ru

r3979 can be gotten from Dirk Paehl's site, or from
software d0t vladbazar d0t com :-/

[Thunderbolt8]

theres no ICL12 version though, arent these supposed to be faster for multithreading intel CPUs?

[Gser]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

theres no ICL12 version though, arent these supposed to be faster for multithreading intel CPUs?

Doesn't make much of a difference since its quite light weight to begin with. The only thing that doesn't work fast enough with my i7 is SPP deblocking. But I use deblock QED anyways.

[clsid]

ICL12 does not have any real-life advantages. It only helps in very specific cases that do not apply to the majority of people.
Get the latest build from SourceForge and you will have a proper build with working deband. Builds you get elsewhere are possibly broken.

SPP deblocking strength can be adjusted with the slider on the PP page. Move the slider to the left to lower CPU usage.

[Thunderbolt8]

well I use sharpening and sometimes deinterlacing. if it helps with those, then I'd need it

[clsid]

Probably little difference for those.

[Thunderbolt8]

little is better than nothing. no multithreading for VC-1, no DXVA with interlacing, no nothing. I need every bit I can get

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

little is better than nothing. no multithreading for VC-1, no DXVA with interlacing, no nothing. I need every bit I can get

Then go buy the compiler and built it yourself.

[Thunderbolt8]

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