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stephanV · 11th November 2005, 22:40

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Well.... can any of you guys explain how the exact same file is displaying different information in the same media player with different splitters - or whatever the filter is called?

I just told you, Haali's splitter only has one audio out pin, so MPC can only show one audio stream. And Haali's splitter obviously doesn't read out the stream tag.

SeeMoreDigital · 11th November 2005, 23:34

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Originally Posted by stephanV

I just told you, Haali's splitter only has one audio out pin, so MPC can only show one audio stream. And Haali's splitter obviously doesn't read out the stream tag.

So why is it obvious that Haali can't read the stream tag (if that's what we are calling it)?

Surely if Haali splitter can display the "stream tag" information via its own system tray icon... it can be designed to send the same information to MediaPlayer Classic?

Cheers

stephanV · 11th November 2005, 23:38

I didn't say it can't, I said it didn't. (commonly known as "missing feature"

) Although I don't know if is possible to pass the stream tag to MPC.

(I don't know what the official name for this is, stream tag just felt natural.)

bond · 12th November 2005, 05:58

the itunes tags are done for the whole file, not stream-wise

Kurtnoise · 12th November 2005, 08:53

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Originally Posted by bond

edit: ok it claims to store the tags as utf-8, but here special characters are still not displayed correctly, so i doubt it does utf-8 (correctly)

mmh yeah...I tested with french special characters and they are not displayed correctly. So, I'll try to improve tg but the last sources which are available don't have the utf support.

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Originally Posted by bond

btw can you make it possible to configure the path to tg.exe?

sure...

JoeBG · 12th November 2005, 19:57

@ Kurtnoise

I hope you do not forget my question regarding the personal setting support for the "-name function". I always use "French 5.1" for 5.1 AAC sound in french language (my daughter learns french in scool and will have this

) and "Forced Deutsch" for the subs. It would be easier to define my own presets. Bond says it would be better to adapt the way Nero does this - but I think this is not important.

bond · 12th November 2005, 20:04

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Originally Posted by JoeBG

It would be easier to define my own presets. Bond says it would be better to adapt the way Nero does this - but I think this is not important.

nope, i said that it should be avoided to use this field for tagging things, like author, album aso

Kurtnoise · 12th November 2005, 22:11

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@ Kurtnoise

I hope you do not forget my question regarding the personal setting support for the "-name function".

I don't forget...it's on my way. Just let me see your Mannshaft looses against frogies.

JoeBG · 13th November 2005, 08:44

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Originally Posted by Kurtnoise13

I don't forget...it's on my way. Just let me see your Mannshaft looses against frogies.

We were not so bad

Kurtnoise · 13th November 2005, 11:52

Yeah...not bad.

Ballack is a good player.

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Originally Posted by JoeBG

I hope you do not forget my question regarding the personal setting support for the "-name function".

Try the last build please...

To change the name, click on Rename button and then validate your preset by press "Enter" on keyboard. I hope you like it.

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Originally Posted by Bond

btw can you make it possible to configure the path to tg.exe?

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/Yamb/Yamb-1.3.1_20051113.zip

SeeMoreDigital · 13th November 2005, 12:42

Would it be possible to include an option to "switch off" the ISMA tagging (or whatever it should be called)?

When playing MP4 files in hardware, there's no real need for OD and BIFS data

JoeBG · 13th November 2005, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Kurtnoise13

Yeah...not bad.

Ballack is a good player.

Try the last build please...

To change the name, click on Rename button and then validate your preset by press "Enter" on keyboard. I hope you like it.

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/Yamb/Yamb-1.3.1_20051113.zip

Works perfect, thank you very much. Also tagging is fine

bond · 13th November 2005, 13:27

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Would it be possible to include an option to "switch off" the ISMA tagging (or whatever it should be called)?

When playing MP4 files in hardware, there's no real need for OD and BIFS data

this is not tagging at all

bifs/od is needed so you can play the stream in a mpeg-4 systems player

also keeping bifs/od does NOT hurt at all, so whats the point of removing it?

SeeMoreDigital · 13th November 2005, 13:37

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Originally Posted by bond

this is not tagging at all

Any ideas what would be the recommended expression to use?

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Originally Posted by bond

bifs/od is needed so you can play the stream in a mpeg-4 systems player

I what ways does a "systems player" differ from a hardware stand-alone player

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Originally Posted by bond

also keeping bifs/od does NOT hurt at all, so whats the point of removing it?

I don't need them... so why generate muxes with them.... It's just a choice option suggestion.

Cheers

bond · 13th November 2005, 13:42

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Any ideas what would be the recommended expression to use?

mpeg-4 systems streams

eg mp4menu also works via these streams. the default isma streams are very basic ones tough

you can also see it as something comparable to flash

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I what ways does a "systems player" differ from a hardware stand-alone player

systems makes interactivity, like menus, or animations possible

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I don't need them... so why generate muxes with them.... It's just a choice option suggestion.

yamb is definitely the wrong tool to ask this for as yamb is "only" a gui for mp4box, so mp4box has to offer that option before yamb can show it to you in the graphical user interface

SeeMoreDigital · 13th November 2005, 13:46

Thanks mate

Looks like we are a forum of two at the moment.

I've read the paper and taken the dog for a walk.... I even went to Lidl to buy a cheap MPEG-4 DVD player (for £20.00).... but they had sold out.... bummer!

SeeMoreDigital · 13th November 2005, 14:45

Something is behaving oddly....

I generated 2No "video only" files. One I re-named to say "Video Stream". The other I re-named to say "VideoStream".... but for some reason MediaPlayer Classic is not displaying the last letter: -

As a cross reference I also generated a file wth all 26No characters of the english alphabet. The last character is missing here too!

And finally.... mp4UI does not like these latest YAMB muxes: -

Cheers

bond · 13th November 2005, 15:00

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Something is behaving oddly....

I generated 2No "video only" files. One I re-named to say "Video Stream". The other I re-named to say "VideoStream".... but for some reason MediaPlayer Classic is not displaying the last letter: -

a known bug of mpc, which should be fixed on cvs already

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And finally.... mp4UI does not like these latest YAMB muxes:

thats the same error as mp4dump tells me (mp4ui is surely using mp4dumps code) and might be a bug in mp4box (i already made a bugreport on the gpac site)

JoeBG · 13th November 2005, 16:11

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Originally Posted by bond

a known bug of mpc, which should be fixed on cvs already

Elias has updated the new version. Bug is fixed.

Kurtnoise · 13th November 2005, 16:40

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Originally Posted by JoeBG

Works perfect, thank you very much. Also tagging is fine

unfortunately, the presets are not saved with this build. So, wait the 1.3.2 version in a couple of hours.

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,227	Thanks mate Looks like we are a forum of two at the moment. I've read the paper and taken the dog for a walk.... I even went to Lidl to buy a cheap MPEG-4 DVD player (for £20.00).... but they had sold out.... bummer! __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,227	Something is behaving oddly.... I generated 2No "video only" files. One I re-named to say "Video Stream". The other I re-named to say "VideoStream".... but for some reason MediaPlayer Classic is not displaying the last letter: - As a cross reference I also generated a file wth all 26No characters of the english alphabet. The last character is missing here too! And finally.... mp4UI does not like these latest YAMB muxes: - Cheers __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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stephanV gone Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,706	I didn't say it can't, I said it didn't. (commonly known as "missing feature" ) Although I don't know if is possible to pass the stream tag to MPC. (I don't know what the official name for this is, stream tag just felt natural.)