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6th September 2013, 05:21 | #20021 | Link |
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I used to use SVP, but I gave up on it. Too many adjustments required for wonky source video, and half the time I couldn't get it to work without artifacts. I just put madVR on the highest recommended settings and get a beautiful picture, even though it's not quite as beautiful as SVP at its best.
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6th September 2013, 05:43 | #20022 | Link | |
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6th September 2013, 13:07 | #20024 | Link |
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just a stupid question. if my tv can do 24hz do i need enable smooth motion? when i put 1080p24 on display modes on madVR when i see a movie at 24fps (23.976) the screen change from 60hz to 24hz. 1080p24 movies are to be seen on tv with 60hz or 24hz? i suppose 24hz is the right option but i dont know much about this 24p stuff
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6th September 2013, 13:18 | #20025 | Link |
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If your display can do 23.976/24 Hz natively (i.e. at integer multiple) then using that should be the best option. Smooth Motion is a helpful tool for those using PC monitors, which typically only support 60 Hz and thus cannot display 24/25/50 fps material without judder.
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6th September 2013, 14:25 | #20026 | Link | |
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i have a receiver that can decode HD sound. after i research a bit i found that i cant have a perfect 24p experience without any framedrop with reclock and at same time bitstream HD sound to my receiver. so as far i can see i have only two options: 1) enable reclock and have perfect 24p experience but loose HD sound ( almost every movie i see have dts-hd sound ) 2) dont use reclock and have some framedrops but gain dts-hd sound from receiver. i found another option where i could download this "dtsdecoderdll.dll" so can lav filter decode HD sound, but i dont know if the HD sound decode from LAV have the same quality from HD sound decode from my denon receiver. |
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6th September 2013, 14:40 | #20027 | Link |
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The only reason you need Reclock for a "perfect 24p experience" is if you're using PAL DVDs that need to be time-stretched from 25 fps to 24 fps. Otherwise, you just need to make sure your GPU is outputting 23.976p as closely as possible (tweakable with nVidia, not sure about AMD or Intel).
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6th September 2013, 15:26 | #20028 | Link | |
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edit: i found this stuff : http://www.anandtech.com/show/5969/zotac-geforce-gt-640-review-/5 the first SS basically is my display, 1 frame drop every 3minutes and display saying 23.972Hz. so i need to create a custom resolution as in second SS right? this will solve the problem, since 1 framedrop every 9h is more than perfect. that custom resoltuion on 2nd SS will not be dangerous for my laptop or panasonic TV? i really want a true 24p playmode but dont want screw my laptop or TV in process edit2: i found this too: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=62727.0;wap2 so basically i need to try both and see what comes near of 23,976Hz right? "You can use the madVR OSD (press "Ctrl + J" to activate) to check how near you got to the optimal refresh rate, cause madVR shows a very exact measurement of the refresh rate." Last edited by psousa; 6th September 2013 at 15:58. |
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6th September 2013, 15:53 | #20029 | Link | |
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At 23.971 Hz you'd get frame skips every 3 minutes or so (though you may not notice all of them depending on the scene being displayed). You need to create a custom resolution in the nVidia Control Panel to try to improve this, and it's essentially hit or miss as to what settings you need. I think madshi said that the refresh rate displayed by MadVR is approximate and not necessarily correct to 3 decimal places anyway so this causes more problems. I might be wrong on this though, hopefully he can clarify. Obviously the number of frame drops/repeats is accurate so you can play a whole film and see how many there are at the end to truly test.
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6th September 2013, 18:07 | #20031 | Link |
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Are you sure it's not all the edges being cut off? Could be that overscan settings change when the resolution and refresh rate change. If not, try not to change the settings too much. A single number increase/decrease will likely have a relatively large effect. I know that increasing the total horizontal pixels on my TV creates dodgy lines everywhere so I steer clear of that setting.
As an example, with my GTS 250 the closest I can get (with the 15 minutes of effort I was willing to put in) is 23.97630 Hz, resulting in a frame repeat every 50 minutes. For this, I created a custom resolution with the default settings for 1080p/23.976 (which gave me 23.978xx Hz) but increased the total vertical pixels by one. I just checked and this measured refresh rate was shown by both MadVR and EVR so I assume it's accurate.
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dont know what i can do to correct this since when i try to resize the screen on nvidia options, say is unavailable for custom resolutions. seem i will not have that perfect 24p experience soon. after some research i read AMG gpu have a better 23.976 experience compared with nvidia. Last edited by psousa; 6th September 2013 at 19:27. |
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6th September 2013, 19:30 | #20034 | Link | |
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tv is a plasma panasonic g20 and have a 16:9 overscan option that is disable. i forget to say my laptop is conect to a receiver denon 2309. laptop-> receiver -> panasonic g20. |
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6th September 2013, 19:42 | #20035 | Link |
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I have an AVR too but it's set to pass-through the video with no changes. Is yours set up the same way? Are you sure the overscan option doesn't enable itself when you apply the custom resolution?
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6th September 2013, 20:50 | #20036 | Link | |
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next try i will check if my panasonic overscan turn on when i change to custom resolution. if not than i dont know what i can do more. maybe sell my laptop and buy a new one with AMD gou ( seem stupid since i sell my last laptop 2 weeks ago that had a hs5650 xD ) |
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7th September 2013, 13:45 | #20039 | Link | |
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I noticed the same thing happening on my desktop with madVR, it was just harder to notice since the screen is a lot smaller, 24" vs 133". The above is a screenshot (print screen) with a portion of the lower border (resized to 500%). |
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