Merlin PAL and lines

Ripe73 · 14th December 2001, 11:44

I am working with Merlin PAL and i have some lines in the action scenes

The lowmotionscenes look good
Is this what we call Interlaced?I followed the guide on DOOM9 with the preview DVD2AVI but i cant see any black lines.When i encode i use GKnot method so what can i do in this case?
Thanks for all help!!

Ripe73 · 14th December 2001, 11:52

I try to upload a picture hope it works

Tr!n! · 14th December 2001, 23:51

doesnt work, i know,
there seems to be a bug in this forum.
try putting it in a zip-file.

Valky · 24th March 2003, 13:30

well..anything new in this issue..I was planning to buy this dvd next week..was it interlaced or not? and it wasn't the whole movie? what did you do and what kind of results did you get?

^^-+I4004+-^^ · 25th March 2003, 01:03

the source was interlaced,you resized it without
deinterlacing it first......

if the footage was shot on video camera,use deinterlacers
("smoothdeinterlacer" for avs is my pick)
if it was shoot on film try decomb and "telecide()"
so if there's some anomaly (fields got to wrong
frames) telecide will make you progressive
source even you're tricked to believe
it's an interlaced source.....

(first apply telecide(),if there's combing again,you should
apply smoothdeinterlace() and remove telecide.....that's not
film source...)

(deinterlacing will result in jerky motion scenes...)

Valky · 25th March 2003, 15:06

Hmm..yes..I noticed now this jerkyness..thought it was codecs fault, but same results with every codec.

Is there any good filters or de-interlace methods to prevent this?

My script:

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\GreedyHMA.dll")
# SOURCE
mpeg2source("E:\merlin\merlin.d2v")

# TRIM
#This is one of the worst scenes
trim(134500,138300)

GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
# CROPPING
crop(16,6,691,561)
BicubicResize(560,416,0,0.75)
#

mf · 25th March 2003, 16:00

Quote:

Originally posted by ^^-+I4004+-^^
(first apply telecide(),if there's combing again,you should
apply smoothdeinterlace() and remove telecide.....that's not
film source...)

Nope, Telecide() won't leave combing. Telecide(post=false) will.

^^-+I4004+-^^ · 25th March 2003, 23:43

>Nope, Telecide() won't leave combing. Telecide(post=false) will.

true,my mistake;
VDub version will leave combing,and obviously (as you said)
telecide(post=false)

>Hmm..yes..I noticed now this jerkyness..thought it was codecs fault, but same results with every codec.
Is there any good filters or de-interlace methods to prevent this?

nope;if you're doing deinterlacing,you're
modifying information of one field and that means
the original (interlaced video) and processed video
(deinterlaced) don't match......

if you want to keep interlacing(and fluent motion) resort to
mpeg2 stuff.......

14th December 2001, 11:44	#1 \| Link
Ripe73 DVDR Freak! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 351	Merlin PAL and lines I am working with Merlin PAL and i have some lines in the action scenes The lowmotionscenes look good Is this what we call Interlaced?I followed the guide on DOOM9 with the preview DVD2AVI but i cant see any black lines.When i encode i use GKnot method so what can i do in this case? Thanks for all help!! __________________ Drugs,Sex & Encoding

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Ripe73 DVDR Freak! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 351	I try to upload a picture hope it works __________________ Drugs,Sex & Encoding Last edited by Ripe73; 14th December 2001 at 12:59.

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Valky Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 275	Hmm..yes..I noticed now this jerkyness..thought it was codecs fault, but same results with every codec. Is there any good filters or de-interlace methods to prevent this? My script: # PLUGINS LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\GreedyHMA.dll") # SOURCE mpeg2source("E:\merlin\merlin.d2v") # TRIM #This is one of the worst scenes trim(134500,138300) GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0) # CROPPING crop(16,6,691,561) BicubicResize(560,416,0,0.75) # Last edited by Valky; 25th March 2003 at 15:08.

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14th December 2001, 23:51	#3 \| Link
Tr!n! Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Belgium Posts: 41	doesnt work, i know, there seems to be a bug in this forum. try putting it in a zip-file.

24th March 2003, 13:30	#4 \| Link
Valky Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 275	well..anything new in this issue..I was planning to buy this dvd next week..was it interlaced or not? and it wasn't the whole movie? what did you do and what kind of results did you get?

25th March 2003, 01:03	#5 \| Link
^^-+I4004+-^^ Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia [local name:Hrvatska] Posts: 551	the source was interlaced,you resized it without deinterlacing it first...... if the footage was shot on video camera,use deinterlacers ("smoothdeinterlacer" for avs is my pick) if it was shoot on film try decomb and "telecide()" so if there's some anomaly (fields got to wrong frames) telecide will make you progressive source even you're tricked to believe it's an interlaced source..... (first apply telecide(),if there's combing again,you should apply smoothdeinterlace() and remove telecide.....that's not film source...) (deinterlacing will result in jerky motion scenes...)

25th March 2003, 23:43	#8 \| Link
^^-+I4004+-^^ Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia [local name:Hrvatska] Posts: 551	>Nope, Telecide() won't leave combing. Telecide(post=false) will. true,my mistake; VDub version will leave combing,and obviously (as you said) telecide(post=false) >Hmm..yes..I noticed now this jerkyness..thought it was codecs fault, but same results with every codec. Is there any good filters or de-interlace methods to prevent this? nope;if you're doing deinterlacing,you're modifying information of one field and that means the original (interlaced video) and processed video (deinterlaced) don't match...... if you want to keep interlacing(and fluent motion) resort to mpeg2 stuff.......