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16th November 2015, 20:37 | #34282 | Link | ||
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When "Enable Adaptive HW deinterlacing = disabled" for QuickSync, then the frames were sent interlaced to the renderer and since "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = enabled" after a madVR reset settings, madVR was using DXVA to do the scaling and that's why the subtitle positioning issue was always happening in this configuration. These are my results when using QuickSync for decoding, but the resizing and video output are performed by the GTX 980: 1. With QuickSync "Enable Adaptive HW deinterlacing = disabled", DXVA is always used for deinterlacing, and these are the playback results: - DX9 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic are used, and there are no issues with switching fullscreen and back, nor with skipping in the file, nor with subtitle positioning - DX9 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = enabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> luma DXVA + chroma DXVA are used, and there are issues only with subtitle positioning; I find it strange that luma DXVA is used in this configuration - is this normal? - DX11 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic are used, and just like for DX9 there are no issues whatsoever - DX11 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = enabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> just like for DX9, luma DXVA + chroma DXVA are used, and there are issues only with subtitle positioning 2. With QuickSync "Enable Adaptive HW deinterlacing = enabled", QuickSync is doing the deinterlacing, and these are the playback results: - DX9 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic are used, and if you just wait after opening the file, the sound plays but no image, the madVR buffers stay at 1; if you get impatient and start skipping in the file, past the scrolling credits part towards the talking heads segment, you might get lucky and get unstuck and playback is smooth as if there's nothing wrong; skipping again might prove lucky, or you might get stuck again on some frame freeze, and you might even get in a state where the sound gets moving but the image is like refreshing one frame every few seconds or so, or not recovering at all, but you can close the playback in the player without issues (so the player does not freeze); no issues with subtitle positioning - DX9 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = enabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> same as above - DX11 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> same as above - DX11 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = enabled" + luma Bicubic + chroma Bicubic -> same as above - DX9 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma DXVA + chroma Bicubic -> luma DXVA + chroma DXVA are used (again, is this normal?), and there are all the issues above + the issue with subtitle positioning - DX11 + "use DXVA chroma upscaling when doing DXVA deinterlacing = disabled" + luma DXVA + chroma Bicubic -> same as for DX9 I think it's fair to also say what the results are with EVR CP: - with QuickSync "Enable Adaptive HW deinterlacing = disabled" -> no issues whatsoever - with QuickSync "Enable Adaptive HW deinterlacing = enabled" -> I get the same issues as with madVR (in this configuration with the GTX 980 for output; there were no issues when the iGPU was used for output!) Quote:
The copyright notice is 4:3 and is displayed properly, the studio intro is also 4:3 and no issues, and then the menu appears, which is a static image, and should be displayed as 16:9, but madVR displays it as 4:3. In EVR it's 16:9. No sample from me, but I think there needs to be the two videos included as well to reproduce this, and I don't know how to cut the vobs with the intro videos in. Last edited by KoD; 16th November 2015 at 21:09. Reason: added EVR CP results |
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So I don't know what is best. I used to use SuperRes alone, but might try adding enhance detail in the future.
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17th November 2015, 01:28 | #34286 | Link |
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@Madshi can you pls give us a proper MadVR profile for 1.- 1080p, 2.- 720p and 3.- below 720p (SD) profile for all kinds of video files.., i have been trying lots of combinations but always thing get mixed up, sd files playing in hd and viceversa
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I just updated to the latest from 88.21
Zoom control...a little help?... Do I need to use this if I'm just playing video files on a computer and watching via computer monitor? I want to maintain the aspect throughout the movie. Using touch window from inside in MPC Last edited by JarrettH; 17th November 2015 at 02:44. |
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If that new SSIM-based downscaling algorithm can be used, would be interesting to see how it affects SuperRes (which relies on downscaling, right?).
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This must be a bug...
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/759/22...8a969572_o.jpg I don't have Lanczos3 AR enabled, I have Jinc3 AR ticked. To check, I tried every upscaler, they work, but when Jinc3 AR is chosen it uses Lanczos3 AR instead. Also, can someone explain what's happening in this chain? 720x576 video --> 1680x1080 chroma -> super-xbr image y -> super-xbr image x -> super-xbr <- catmull-rom The height was doubled and downsized - what happened to the width? It looks like it was doubled, but what upscaler brought it to 1680? for the zoom control feedback Last edited by JarrettH; 17th November 2015 at 04:53. |
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jinc3 AR can't downscale so lanczos is used. working as intended.
even through the images shows upscaling the image is still downscaled at the same time AR correction. BTW. this file need deintelracing and is flag wrong or totally wrong encoded. |
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And the top checkbox on this tab (I don't remember what it's called), that allows not to upscale contents if the cut lines are just couple of lines, is really useful with cropping and with some strange sources (like web download files that are sometimes not perfect full hd).
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I found some research on the web about an adaptive bilateral upscaling filter implementation, maybe you can use or at the very least borrow some ideas (if you don't know the paper already): http://www.interdigital.com/research...age_upsampling (direct download) Apart from NNEDI3 even the simple bilateral upscaler is definitely my favourite chroma upscaler. Last edited by iSunrise; 18th November 2015 at 11:07. |
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Love the thin edges enhancement! On anime it makes the outlines look so sharp (I set it to maxium)! Shapen and crispen looks slightly better on very moderate amounts. On anime, 1080p BD encodes it improves more consistently a lot more than on 480p dvd rips from what I tested. Looks like it is more hard to detect edges on low resolution blurry anime. Enhance detail only makes encoding artifacts more visible.
I will use the enchantments and try to tweak when watching anime and try different quality and art animes for some time then post my experience. Last edited by fredgido; 18th November 2015 at 17:38. |
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