EVOB De/Multiplexers - Page 33

KoD · 27th February 2007, 15:18

tomos, have you upgraded to WMP 11 or at least you have updated your codecs to be able to handle VC-1 with wmfdist11.exe (it's inside the wmp11 installer/ practically a self-extractable zip archive)

tomos · 27th February 2007, 15:33

havent actually. always avoided wmp.

will grab that now though

ta

holzi · 27th February 2007, 15:46

you have to enable wvc1 decoder in ffdshow.

( http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=173941 , get the latest one )
Both decoder work for me. Don't know which one is better.

I don't have the cpu to test playback anyway

gn!uz · 27th February 2007, 16:40

Can anyone tell me how to obtain the framecount from a demuxed (xport) bluray vc1? And what is the exact fps for bluray? Can't find any info on this.. Muchos Gracias!

MichalHabart · 27th February 2007, 17:28

Does anyone know how to export PCM from bluray disc? I tried to demux it xport but it can see only DD5.1 tracks, same xmuxer. Any thoughts?

enantiomer · 27th February 2007, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichalHabart

Does anyone know how to export PCM from bluray disc? I tried to demux it xport but it can see only DD5.1 tracks, same xmuxer. Any thoughts?

Try TSReader. It understands 192 byte transport streams, and it can demux any PID to a binary file. I haven't tried to use the demuxed PCM file yet, but it should be useable.

Jan2001 · 27th February 2007, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by holzi

you have to enable wvc1 decoder in ffdshow.

( http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=173941 , get the latest one )
Both decoder work for me. Don't know which one is better.

I don't have the cpu to test playback anyway

ffdshow does not really work here.
Menuintro.evo of Miami Vice plays well in MPC+ffdshow with both decoders, but at the wrong framerate (29.97).
The main movie does not play at all.

holzi · 27th February 2007, 17:51

you have to put the movie in a mkv container. Like written few posts up

MichalHabart · 27th February 2007, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by enantiomer

Try TSReader. It understands 192 byte transport streams, and it can demux any PID to a binary file. I haven't tried to use the demuxed PCM file yet, but it should be useable.

TSReader shows me only 2 audio tracks and 2 video tracks. I assume that the second video is in fact LPCM track but how to extract this whole track to one file?

idamien · 27th February 2007, 19:41

Hi...

Hmmm, just downloaded the latest Haali from the link posted and installed it. Then tried to build a graph from the demuxed VC-1 .mpv file to the "Haali Demuxer" to ffdshow tryout MPEG-4 decoder but couldn´t find anything named Haali that would work...

Also, how did you mux the VC-1 to .mkv?

Could you please reply with the steps you followed?

Thanks.

holzi · 27th February 2007, 19:49

haali media splitter ( open evo not raw vc-1 stream)
--> Connect to haali matroska muxxer. or to ffdshow for direct playback ( will output 29,76 fps) with the remuxx in MKV you can get it to play at 23.976 fps

enantiomer · 27th February 2007, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichalHabart

TSReader shows me only 2 audio tracks and 2 video tracks. I assume that the second video is in fact LPCM track but how to extract this whole track to one file?

Yes, the 2nd "video track" should be LPCM. I'm not sitting in front of a PC with TSReader, so this is only a rough outline from memory:

1. Choose file.dll as your source, and open the m2ts file.
2. Choose File -> Stop Source. This will cause TSReader to stop playing the m2ts file.
3. There is a pulldown menu to Record PIDs. Choose the PIDs you want to record, select the option to record to separate files, and it will prompt you for a folder to demux the PIDs into.
4. Choose File -> Restart source, and TSreader will demux your PIDs starting from the beginning of the m2ts file.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how to manipulate the binary LPCM file. It probably is NOT raw LPCM but will likely be in some kind of elementary stream container with PTS, etc.

toxik · 27th February 2007, 20:35

edit: n/m, i fixed it by muxing it to mkv

tomos · 27th February 2007, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by holzi

you have to enable wvc1 decoder in ffdshow.

( http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=173941 , get the latest one )
Both decoder work for me. Don't know which one is better.

I don't have the cpu to test playback anyway

tried it but it doesnt work for me. i checked the filters used in mpc and its always sonics. if i unregister those then i get no playback at all.

tried choosing libavcodec and wmv9 in both vfw and video decoder configs - no joy.

Jan2001 · 27th February 2007, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by holzi

you have to put the movie in a mkv container. Like written few posts up

Thanks, works fine now. I'd say wmv9 decoder is better as libavcodec still can't decode artifactfree.

All we need now is a way to decode DD+.

idamien · 28th February 2007, 05:22

@holzi

Thanks, working fine now...

MichalHabart · 28th February 2007, 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by enantiomer

Yes, the 2nd "video track" should be LPCM. I'm not sitting in front of a PC with TSReader, so this is only a rough outline from memory:

1. Choose file.dll as your source, and open the m2ts file.
2. Choose File -> Stop Source. This will cause TSReader to stop playing the m2ts file.
3. There is a pulldown menu to Record PIDs. Choose the PIDs you want to record, select the option to record to separate files, and it will prompt you for a folder to demux the PIDs into.
4. Choose File -> Restart source, and TSreader will demux your PIDs starting from the beginning of the m2ts file.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how to manipulate the binary LPCM file. It probably is NOT raw LPCM but will likely be in some kind of elementary stream container with PTS, etc.

Yes, this worked and i now have 4GB file that can not be played

It seems to be some sort of binary PCM but what to do with it now it's mistery to me

drmpeg · 28th February 2007, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichalHabart

Yes, this worked and i now have 4GB file that can not be played

It seems to be some sort of binary PCM but what to do with it now it's mistery to me

You should be able to use Goldwave to play the samples, but you can only play 2 channels at once. I have a tool to extract a channel pair, but a short (50 to 100 MB) sample of a .m2ts with LPCM would be good to test with.

I've also updated xport to demux LPCM streams:

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

Ron

MichalHabart · 28th February 2007, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by drmpeg

You should be able to use Goldwave to play the samples, but you can only play 2 channels at once. I have a tool to extract a channel pair, but a short (50 to 100 MB) sample of a .m2ts with LPCM would be good to test with.

I've also updated xport to demux LPCM streams:

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

Ron

Hi, thnaks for fast respond. I tried your newest version of xport but i still get only 2 audio tracks, LPCM is missing. Is there any tool to show me if this track is really in there and what number he has?
Or if you have something that can split m2ts file, i can send you this sample

Edit: I used your head tool and now i have 50MB of sample file. Where do you want me to upload it?

idamien · 28th February 2007, 10:35

Hi again,

I had some free time the last few days and I decided to write my first guide: a very simple and short guide to backing up HD-DVD VC-1 discs (video only for now) to x264 using only free software under Windows Vista (it might work on XP)... Mainly for people who want to backup their HD-DVDs but don´t have the time to browse and/or read the forums...

Can I put it up here on Doom9? How do I go about doing that?

Thanks...

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MichalHabart Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 135	Pcm Does anyone know how to export PCM from bluray disc? I tried to demux it xport but it can see only DD5.1 tracks, same xmuxer. Any thoughts?

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toxik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	edit: n/m, i fixed it by muxing it to mkv Last edited by toxik; 28th February 2007 at 04:33.

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KoD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 567	tomos, have you upgraded to WMP 11 or at least you have updated your codecs to be able to handle VC-1 with wmfdist11.exe (it's inside the wmp11 installer/ practically a self-extractable zip archive)

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tomos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 534	havent actually. always avoided wmp. will grab that now though ta

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holzi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 47	you have to enable wvc1 decoder in ffdshow. ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=173941 , get the latest one ) Both decoder work for me. Don't know which one is better. I don't have the cpu to test playback anyway

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gn!uz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6	Can anyone tell me how to obtain the framecount from a demuxed (xport) bluray vc1? And what is the exact fps for bluray? Can't find any info on this.. Muchos Gracias!

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holzi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 47	you have to put the movie in a mkv container. Like written few posts up

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idamien Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 36	Hi... Hmmm, just downloaded the latest Haali from the link posted and installed it. Then tried to build a graph from the demuxed VC-1 .mpv file to the "Haali Demuxer" to ffdshow tryout MPEG-4 decoder but couldn´t find anything named Haali that would work... Also, how did you mux the VC-1 to .mkv? Could you please reply with the steps you followed? Thanks.

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holzi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 47	haali media splitter ( open evo not raw vc-1 stream) --> Connect to haali matroska muxxer. or to ffdshow for direct playback ( will output 29,76 fps) with the remuxx in MKV you can get it to play at 23.976 fps

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idamien Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 36	@holzi Thanks, working fine now...

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idamien Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 36	Hi again, I had some free time the last few days and I decided to write my first guide: a very simple and short guide to backing up HD-DVD VC-1 discs (video only for now) to x264 using only free software under Windows Vista (it might work on XP)... Mainly for people who want to backup their HD-DVDs but don´t have the time to browse and/or read the forums... Can I put it up here on Doom9? How do I go about doing that? Thanks...