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Old 25th December 2002, 19:37   #141  |  Link
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As promised

Thanks mate !!!!
I didn't have the time to test it yet (in france we eat a lot for christmas )

Download :
hp://membrax.free.fr/ReClockV0.98b.rar

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Old 26th December 2002, 22:45   #142  |  Link
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Back from Christmas

Sorry for the problems with geocities. Thanks to some space given by my ISP i have setup a new permanent website. It's located here !

I have received some bug reports (mainly lockup problems), and will look into them.

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Old 27th December 2002, 11:22   #143  |  Link
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The latest versions of AC3Filter support PCM 24bit and PCM Float as output but ReClock does not support this. Ogo, can you add this modes to ReClock?
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Old 27th December 2002, 14:06   #144  |  Link
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OK, I just solved the ReClock locking up problem with TV-out enabled. The solution was to enable ONLY the TV-out. The lockup occured only when both monitor and TV-outs were enabled.

However, other problem emerged, ReClock locks when DirectVobSub is enabled.
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Old 27th December 2002, 14:35   #145  |  Link
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Yes there are some reports of lockups :
- with DirectVobSub
- with ZoomPlayer beta 3
- with some media files

I'm looking into these problems. I'm currently scratching my head on a "case" here

I have not included support for PCM24 or PCM float now. They are really a hassle to add. Do you REALLY think it would be useful ? In which case ?

I have also been asked to add AC3 SP/DIF support which i think would be more interesting. I could add it but i'm quite sure there will be synchronisation issues with video, and i don't have a hardware AC3 decoder in my hands to test (however i have sp/dif on my soundcard). Someone is making some tests for me.

Anyway Gabest or Valex could you give me some hints on how to add SP/DIF support in the renderer (the media type is not the problem, i just need info for the playback part) ??? Thanks
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Old 27th December 2002, 14:40   #146  |  Link
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Sorry, I have absolutely no idea about how to output anything using dsound
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Old 27th December 2002, 22:55   #147  |  Link
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Christmas, Christmas ...

A new version is available (0.98c). It fixes a lockup problem (no new features)

Gabest> Got some infos about AC3. dsound is pure s... cause i must use Waveout to get AC3 working ... It means rewritting some stuff

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Old 28th December 2002, 02:33   #148  |  Link
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Hi ogo,

first of all thanks for your ds_filter. Keep up your good work! I've tried it and it work very well - but, yes a little but - today I've tested your filter on some short *.mpg clip and unfortunately it cuts off the sound at the beginning and at the end...

I think it's due to your filter because after uninstalling everthing was as expected, I mean I could hear all of it.

It is a very short clip and I've uploaded it, so maybe you can test it and afterwards tell me that I'm dumb or find out that it's really due to your filter.

Thanks in advance

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Old 29th December 2002, 13:27   #149  |  Link
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Feature Request

This filter seems interesting, but the pitch shifts are murder to those of us with perfect pitch (or in my case, near-perfect pitch). Since (according to your readme) you won't do true audio resampling, could you provide persistant Media Adaptation Speed settings so I can at least force the framerate to the video's original speed?
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Old 29th December 2002, 14:03   #150  |  Link
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sillKotscha> This cutted sound is due to the preload time of reclock which is much longer than the preload time of the directsound audio renderer (500ms versus maybe 50-100ms). Such a big latency is necessary to allow smooth pitch changes of the sound. Maybe i'll provide a setting to allow lower latency in future versions, but for now i can't do nothing for that

Xenoproctologist> The audio speed MUST be changed in order to stay in sync with the video. There is no way to go around this. So resampling is mandatory. You can use "hardware resampling" if it works fine with your soundcard. This will give you original quality sound. To my knowledge no human being can hear pitch differences as low as 10hz
If you want a constant pitch sound, just disable clock correction. You will loose the accurate clock (which is what reclock was made for), and reclock will just act as a framerate changer for your media (ie 23,976->25 fps adaptation for example). But this is a way to use it i really don't recommend.
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Old 29th December 2002, 15:18   #151  |  Link
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Xenoproctologist> The audio speed MUST be changed in order to stay in sync with the video. There is no way to go around this. So resampling is mandatory. You can use "hardware resampling" if it works fine with your soundcard. This will give you original quality sound. To my knowledge no human being can hear pitch differences as low as 10hz
If you want a constant pitch sound, just disable clock correction. You will loose the accurate clock (which is what reclock was made for), and reclock will just act as a framerate changer for your media (ie 23,976->25 fps adaptation for example). But this is a way to use it i really don't recommend.
The clock correction isn't really an issue, and truthfully is what interests me here. It's the framerate changer which is playing havoc with my ears. Since I'm effectively locked at a refresh rate of 75hz (unable to go higher; unwilling to go lower), all my 23.976fps video ends up playing at 25fps with ReClock, resulting in about a half-step increase in audio pitch. What I want is for ReClock to remember that I set it to play at the video's original framerate.
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Old 29th December 2002, 15:23   #152  |  Link
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Opps sorry i didn't understand at first

Try 72hz, it will automatically play the video at 24fps, which is not very far from 23,976 fps. It should say "CINEMA mode"
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Old 30th December 2002, 01:10   #153  |  Link
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No dice. 75hz is the minimum I can view for any significant period of time without getting a headache. Anything less and I swear I can feel my retinas bleeding. ^^;
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Old 30th December 2002, 02:05   #154  |  Link
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I cannot get ReClock to load whatsoever.

Is there a problem with running ReClock with ffdshow/VobSub/DiVXG400/AC3filter?

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Old 31st December 2002, 12:14   #155  |  Link
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Hi !

First of all happy new year

Version 0.99 of ReClock is out. This version have a LOT of changes, including some experimental support for AC3 pass through, and DVD frame rate detection.

I'll submit version 1.0 to Doom9 when it will be ready, but for now it's a bit too early

Thanks for reporting any problem
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Old 31st December 2002, 14:24   #156  |  Link
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Hi ogo,

concerning my 'problem' above I can tell you... now it works like a charm

thanks very much

and happy new year to you as well

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Old 31st December 2002, 15:17   #157  |  Link
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xbox dvd playback

Hi I didnt test reclock much since last time sorry;-)
but reading ogo's readme, I was wondering if xbox (or other game consoles) dvd playback was expected to be a bit jerky as well (as xbox is basically a small pc)? Ogo have you got an idea on the question?
I recently got one (XBOX), I didnt test dvd playback much yet (no much time in christmas period) but I ve watched some episodes of ER (japanese zone2) and its not really what i call smooth video... maybe it's because I'm in UK (25Hz) and ER comes from US (29.97Hz) ... but if it is the reason it should be jerky on any dvd standalone player right?
Can someone else with xbox at home could tell me if dvd playback is always smooth (and what kind of format is usually played, PAL NTSC ..?)
(sorry the post may be not completly related with reclock but as its partially I thought it would be ok to post it here)
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Old 31st December 2002, 16:29   #158  |  Link
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DVD frame rate detection.
Fails on NTSC content...detects 29.97 fps on a stream that is actually 23.976 fps. You should know that software players don't perform telecine on playback as the flags in the stream indicate...but there still is true 29.97 fps content on ntsc dvds sometimes (documentaries etc.), so if you somehow get this corrected, will it autodetect changes while playing (switching from main movie at 23.976 fps to extras at 29.97 fps or something like that)?

Please add an override button, in case detection is wrong...before I could watch my ntsc-movies fine on pal tv by setting it to 23.976, it then got speed up to 25 and all was fine. Now it wrongly detects 29.97 and I am stuck.

BTW: I just saw new Zoom Player beta has the following feature:

* New "UseSystemClock" function for Graph Building scripts. This
function tells Zoom Player to create a System Clock and use it
to keep Sync. It may help with microstutter issues but may also
cause Audio Desync.

Is this something like what ReClock does? Maybe it's not as sophisticated as ReClock...we don't know what from Blight creates the clock or what he syncs it with...or is it something different? Should the two be used together or not??? Please test it, as you are into this stuff...as far as I got it, you have to add 'UseSystemClock' to your manual graphs...see sample graphs with latest ZoomPlayer 3.00 beta 4

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Old 31st December 2002, 16:53   #159  |  Link
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I checked V. 0.99 . Unfortunately there is still no improvement about work under Win 98. It still locks WMP. I deinstalled all filter, and used only DivX 3.11, but it locked all the time.
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Old 31st December 2002, 17:03   #160  |  Link
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ogo: Isn't that Win16Mutex/Win16Lock causing the lockup problem? I don't know if it also affects dsound or reclock, but when a dx surface is locked any gdi call from other threads will halt.
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