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Old 4th February 2012, 00:09   #14201  |  Link
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jdobbs, You were right on with that suggestion about replacing x264 in version 0.40.02 with x264 in version 0.39.07, Everything worked perfect. Thanks Alot!
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Old 4th February 2012, 00:11   #14202  |  Link
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Source is Blu-ray 25fps MBAFF.
I resize it to 720 for a BD5, encode using CRF prediction, and it comes out oversized as BD9. (CRF final was 12.8 which is already an indication of oversizing).
BD-RB introduces frame duplication for 50fps for blu-ray compliance. Is this duplication possibly the reason for oversizing? Has anything been changed with respect to earlier version (I am pretty sure that the sizing came out right in earlier versions)?
No, I haven't changed anything in the sizing algorithms for quite some time. I'd guess that one is likely just one of the random ones that CRF can't predict very well. But I'll do a couple of tests and see if the 720p conversion is affecting the sizing.
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Old 4th February 2012, 00:16   #14203  |  Link
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jdobbs, You were right on with that suggestion about replacing x264 in version 0.40.02 with x264 in version 0.39.07, Everything worked perfect. Thanks Alot!
Well... that's not really good news. It means that it is likely there is some slight glitch in the last release of X264 that is making it flaky on your machine (and probably others). Is there any way you can try what I suggested earlier about using the command from LASTCMD.TXT in a DOS command window after it fails with X264? That way we could put our finger on exactly what error you are getting -- of course there's also always the chance it will just "crash" and we won't get an error...

What kind of processor are you using for your encodes? I'm just wondering because I (and a lot of other people) have done a huge number of encodes with the new X264 version and have had no problems at all.
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Old 4th February 2012, 00:20   #14204  |  Link
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Just got a "PredictAndEncode" error when trying to backup "Skyline" with "MULTIPROCESS=1" set. The error happens immediately after extracting the A/V streams. I tried several times, re-extracting the data each time, with the same result. Then I set "MULTIPROCESS=0" and Pass 1 is now progressing normally.

[EDIT]BTW; I've done several successful backups with "MULTIPROCESS=1" set.[/EDIT]

Here's the log:

Code:
[17:11:23] ...
 - [17:14:54] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:14:54] PredictAndEncode() 00006  2809
[17:15:55] - Aborted by user request
Hmm.. that's a variable overflow error. I'll have to see if I can pick that one up and do some testing. Can you post the .INI contents for the encode that fails so I can repeat it with the exact same settings?
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Old 4th February 2012, 02:14   #14205  |  Link
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I just made a donation because BD-Rebuilder is pretty impressive. I've found it easy to use with the following feedback:

1. Software like this needs lots of documentation so users can tweak. In my case, I rather use nero aac. Not a major complaint, but an extra step. Real documentation instead of forum support would be more professional.

2. Marketing is lacking. There are lots of competitors that aren't half as good, but they market aggressively. Maybe some type of alliance with Slysoft would be a good fit?

3. Ability to recode without transcoding could be better documented.

Still, I am left with a question. I use software like this just for fun, but I should think many potential users won't do that. Somebody should make it very clear as to why anyone would want to use mp4 over mp2. Since I've tried it, I can say mp4 is way better than mp2 AT THE SAME BITRATE, but I still could not tell anyone WHY this is the case.

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Old 4th February 2012, 04:37   #14206  |  Link
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Hmm.. that's a variable overflow error. I'll have to see if I can pick that one up and do some testing. Can you post the .INI contents for the encode that fails so I can repeat it with the exact same settings?
My "MULTIPROCESS=0" backup completed with no errors. Then I tried again with "MULTIPROCESS=1" and the error popped up again at the same point.

Here is the encode "inf" file:

Code:
[Status]
LABEL=SKYLINE
VERSION=v0.40.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27503462400
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27503462400
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.306221897065585
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
MULTIPROCESS=4
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00004]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=10517
and my BDREBUILDER.INI file:

Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.40.0.1
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MULTIPROCESS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BLURAY\SKYLINE\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD-REBUILDS\BUILDS\
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Old 4th February 2012, 04:48   #14207  |  Link
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My "MULTIPROCESS=0" backup completed with no errors. Then I tried again with "MULTIPROCESS=1" and the error popped up again at the same point.

Here is the encode "inf" file:

Code:
[Status]
LABEL=SKYLINE
VERSION=v0.40.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27503462400
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27503462400
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.306221897065585
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
MULTIPROCESS=4
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00004]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=10517
and my BDREBUILDER.INI file:

Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.40.0.1
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MULTIPROCESS=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BLURAY\SKYLINE\
WORKING_PATH=D:\BD-REBUILDS\BUILDS\
I have a i7 920 and it crashed on 8 processors as I expected it would, ran slow as mud on 4 and is faster than 0 processors when using 2. 2 seems to be my magic number for speed.
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Old 4th February 2012, 11:43   #14208  |  Link
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Hi,

thanks for adding angle selection in other movie playlist... but i didn't manage to have it work.
on "star wars- a new hope", french scrolling title is on angle 5. i choose playlist XXX / angle 5, then backup. in the resulting iso, scrolling title is always in english. when i do "preview item", the title is also in english.
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Old 4th February 2012, 22:04   #14209  |  Link
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Not sure why all of the sudden I am not able to encode across several movies:

-----------------------
[11:00:31] BD Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
- Source: MONEYBALL
- Input BD size: 26.57 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:14.987]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[11:00:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:00:34] Processing: VID_00800 (1 of 1)
- [11:00:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [11:28:35] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 191,688 frames
- Bitrate: 20,374 Kbs
- [11:28:35] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
- Encode failed. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[11:28:44] - Failed video encode, aborted
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Old 4th February 2012, 22:41   #14210  |  Link
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@rysktkr;
The usual explanation is another codec on your pc has taken over priority, possibly due to codec packs or other software installations. You can try to uninstall avisynth, haali, ffdshow...and any codec packs. Reboot... then reinstall those three programs.
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Old 4th February 2012, 23:50   #14211  |  Link
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I've been running "Skyline" with every configuration I can think of -- I used v0.40.1, with your INI file, I forced MULTIPROCESS to 4 instances, set it to "1", pretty much everything, my log matches yours exactly -- except that it processes correctly with no error.

It is possible, I guess, that we have two different versions of the same disc. Is your the U.S. version? It's also possible that you have a bad rip.
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Old 5th February 2012, 01:13   #14212  |  Link
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It is possible, I guess, that we have two different versions of the same disc. Is your the U.S. version? It's also possible that you have a bad rip.
It's the Canadian (Alliance Films) version, so that may be a difference.

When this error happened I originally thought that the rip might be bad, and I was going to try a fresh rip. But first I tried turning off MULTIPROCESS and it worked fine. I found that I could repeatably make the problem happen by turning on/off MULTIPROCESS, so I thought that the problem was likely something other than the rip. But I'll rip it again and see what happens, just to be as thorough as possible. I'll let you know what happens.
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Old 5th February 2012, 01:54   #14213  |  Link
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Just wanted to let you know that Symantec Endpoint Protection software (version 12.1.1000.157) has decided to report bdrb.exe as a threat. It claims it's a Bloodhound.Sonar.9 threat, whatever that is. Version 11 of SEP had no problem with BDRB, so I guess they've decided to change who they screw with on the new version. I'm sure it's a bogus report, obviously, so I excluded BDRB in the program and it seems to run fine after that. But I thought I'd let you know in case others start having issues as well.

On a happier note, the new multi-cpu is working very well for me. And when I use my SSD drives, my encodes drop to almost half of what they were previously. Nice. Very happy.

That reminds me, any chance of getting an option to feed IMG Burn a different location for the final ISO instead of where BD Rebuilder's work directory resides? I ask because while my SSD's have enough space to do the full encode, I can't really store the finished product there, and would like to skip a step of having to manually move the ISOs to free up space. Not a high priority, but a nice item for a "wishes" list. Thanks.

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Old 5th February 2012, 03:36   #14214  |  Link
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It's the Canadian (Alliance Films) version, so that may be a difference.

When this error happened I originally thought that the rip might be bad, and I was going to try a fresh rip. But first I tried turning off MULTIPROCESS and it worked fine. I found that I could repeatably make the problem happen by turning on/off MULTIPROCESS, so I thought that the problem was likely something other than the rip. But I'll rip it again and see what happens, just to be as thorough as possible. I'll let you know what happens.
Yeah... that makes more sense now that I think about it. You doesn't pass the sanity test that a bad rip is only bad when multiprocessing...
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Old 5th February 2012, 03:38   #14215  |  Link
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Just wanted to let you know that Symantec Endpoint Protection software (version 12.1.1000.157) has decided to report bdrb.exe as a threat. It claims it's a Bloodhound.Sonar.9 threat, whatever that is. Version 11 of SEP had no problem with BDRB, so I guess they've decided to change who they screw with on the new version. I'm sure it's a bogus report, obviously, so I excluded BDRB in the program and it seems to run fine after that. But I thought I'd let you know in case others start having issues as well.

On a happier note, the new multi-cpu is working very well for me. And when I use my SSD drives, my encodes drop to almost half of what they were previously. Nice. Very happy.

That reminds me, any chance of getting an option to feed IMG Burn a different location for the final ISO instead of where BD Rebuilder's work directory resides? I ask because while my SSD's have enough space to do the full encode, I can't really store the finished product there, and would like to skip a step of having to manually move the ISOs to free up space. Not a high priority, but a nice item for a "wishes" list. Thanks.
No big surprise... this is about the 4th time they've decided to have a problem with BD-RB. My suggestion is to get rid of Norton. BD-RB is just one of many false-positives. I got tired of their software finding issues where there are no issues... thats why I switched to Trend Micro a long time ago -- and have never regretted it.

I'll take a look at an alternate final output folder. I've had several requests because folks thought it might increase speed (it won't) -- but I guess it can make sense when you want to use the same working space over-and-over like in your case.

I'm working on some more speed improvements -- the next version will support DGDecNV in single and multi-processing modes, I'm getting a good speed boost on my system from it. I'm also looking at more concurrent processing options that should pick up a few minutes here-and-there.
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Old 5th February 2012, 04:02   #14216  |  Link
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Yeah... that makes more sense now that I think about it. [It] doesn't pass the sanity test that a bad rip is only bad when multiprocessing...
I just repeated the procedure with a brand new rip and I got the same results: OK with MULTIPROCESS=0 but crash with MULTIPROCESS=1. Maybe it's just this particular disc release, and it won't be a widespread problem. For now I'll leave my settings at MULTIPROCESS=1, just to see what happens, even though it doesn't give much of a boost on my system.
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I just repeated the procedure with a brand new rip and I got the same results: OK with MULTIPROCESS=0 but crash with MULTIPROCESS=1. Maybe it's just this particular disc release, and it won't be a widespread problem. For now I'll leave my settings at MULTIPROCESS=1, just to see what happens, even though it doesn't give much of a boost on my system.
Have you tried it with the latest release (v0.40.02)? I noticed from the log that you were using the previous one. I made a few changes to that area of code.
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Have you tried it with the latest release (v0.40.02)? I noticed from the log that you were using the previous one. I made a few changes to that area of code.
No I hadn't -- missed that one. I just downloaded it and gave it a try: same result.

Here's some further detail. After I dismiss the "PredictAndEncode" message box BD-RB becomes unstable. For instance, if I immediately pick the menu item to select BD-25 instead of BD-9 I see the "Scanning source directory..." message and this error pops up right away:

"BD Rebuilder experienced an error 2501 [23:24:32] SourceCheck() 00055 2501"

After that point the "Scanning source directory..." message never disappears, but the application UI still functions behind it. I can click the "Backup" button but it gives me another error because the source cannot be read.

I'm not sure if this info is of much use to you. If you'd like me do any specific tests I'll do so gladly.

Here's a copy of the latest INF and LOG files:

Code:
[Status]
LABEL=SKYLINE
VERSION=v0.40.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27503462400
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27503462400
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.306221897065585
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=3
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1.5
[00004]
AUDIO=1000
PGS=10
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
RATE=10517
Code:
[23:18:52] BD Rebuilder v0.40.02 (beta)
  - Source:  SKYLINE
  - Input BD size: 25.61 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:32:46.394]
  - Target BD size: 7.84 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[23:18:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [23:18:53] Processing: VID_00004 (1 of 1)
 - [23:18:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
 - [23:23:33] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 133,460 frames
   - Bitrate: 10,517 Kbs
 - [23:23:33] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
 - [23:23:33] PredictAndEncode() 00006  2809
[23:24:18] - Aborted by user request
 - [23:24:32] SourceCheck() 00055  2501
 - [23:27:59] SourceCheck() 00055  2501
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Old 5th February 2012, 15:50   #14219  |  Link
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After getting an error it is unpredictable what might happen if you continue... as something wasn't completed properly. The 00055 means a file that should have been closed was already open.
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Old 5th February 2012, 17:14   #14220  |  Link
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[17:21:52] BD Rebuilder v0.39.07 (beta)
- Source: GREEN_MILE_THE
- Input BD size: 40.09 GB
- Approximate total content: [05:55:38.600]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:21:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:21:54] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 17)
- [17:21:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:44:52] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 271,359 frames
- Bitrate: 11,848 Kbs
- [17:44:52] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.39.07 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: 1.9.42.1, Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Not Set correctly
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set incorrectly: [1]
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[17:47:58] - Failed video encode, aborted
any help?
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