eac3to - audio conversion tool - Page 252

rebkell · 5th June 2008, 17:53

eac3to will not stripPullDown on HD-DVD AVC streams, only on VC-1, is that correct?

Snowknight26 · 5th June 2008, 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydane

DD+ = .eac

Actually, that one is .eac3.

nautilus7 · 5th June 2008, 19:33

.eac3 or .ddp

earl · 5th June 2008, 21:33

hi guys, i have 3 little question about eac3to

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Code:

wine --version
wine-1.0-rc3

wine /home/earl/.wine/drive_c/Programme/eac3to_2-46/eac3to.exe z:/movie.m2ts 1: video.mkv

Code:

M2TS, 1 video track, 5 audio tracks, 1:45:58
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
2: RAW/PCM, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
3: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB
4: AC3, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz
5: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
6: AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
Hooking WriteConsoleA failed (Erfolg).
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[v01] Muxing video to Matroska...
[v01] Starting DirectShow conversion failed.
Aborted at file position 1409024.

in a real windows it runs fine

wine /home/earl/.wine/drive_c/Programme/eac3to_2-46/eac3to.exe -test

Code:

Sonic Audio Decoder (2.46.0.0) doesn't seem to be installed
Haali Media Splitter (2008-3-29) is installed
Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.23.0) is installed
MkvToolnix (v2.2.0) is installed

do i need anything to let eac3to create the .mkv file ? or is it a problem with wine, i hope not ..

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Code:

eac3to 1.evo+2.evo 2: d:\abc_movie.mkv 4: d:\abc_4audio.eac3 5: d:\abc_5audio.eac3 6: d:\abc_6audio.eac3
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 6 subtitle tracks, 2:12:34
1: Joined EVO file
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
3: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -80ms
4: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
5: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
6: E-AC3, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
7: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -80ms
8: E-AC3, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -11ms
9: Subtitle
10: Subtitle
11: Subtitle
12: Subtitle
13: Subtitle
14: Subtitle
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a06] Extracting audio track number 6...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a06] Removing dialog normalization...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Removing dialog normalization...
[a06] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a05] Removing dialog normalization...
[a05] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Creating file "d:\abc_4audio.eac3"...
[a05] Creating file "d:\abc_5audio.eac3 "...
[a06] Creating file "d:\abc_6audio.eac3 "...

what does pulldown flag mean ? what have i to do if i mux the video into .mkv ?

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"[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay..."
i convert the .eac3 to .ac3, and i will mux it with mkvmerge with the abc_movie.mkv file, what have i to do with the "-84ms delay" ?
.... i must set -84ms in the mkvmerge(gui) ? or does eac3to change anything on the delay ?

inmetzi · 6th June 2008, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesgrey3

See this link
it seems we need nero 7.8 or higher. Can anyone confirm this?

Hi yesgrey3. All what you really need is the key :-)) The plugin will be installed with your nero but it isn´t activ. On the nero page you can only buy a licence. You must give it in the nero controll center and all is ok. I think the plugins for 7 and 8 are the same.

yesgrey · 7th June 2008, 10:58

inmetzi,
My reply was for jeffnoone who referred was using nero 7.5.7.0 and even with the key had problems, but thank you for referring the key, I realize my post was incomplete.

So, we need the key for activating the plugin, and nero 7, version 7.8.5.0 or higher, because only those have the plugin included to be activated.

PS: madshi, maybe could be a good idea if you also include the nero 7 version number needed in your first post...

boombastic · 7th June 2008, 15:37

I just want to say a big big thanks to the author of this program:with megui and you r tool, backuing up a Blu Ray to a MKV with the best possbile quality is just so easy!!!Many many thanks!

laserfan · 7th June 2008, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesgrey3

So, we need the key for activating the plugin, and nero 7, version 7.8.5.0 or higher, because only those have the plugin included to be activated.

PS: madshi, maybe could be a good idea if you also include the nero 7 version number needed in your first post...

Yes. Further, it could be noted in the first post that only "Showtime" needs to be installed, and the HD/BD plugin activated. SmartStart and Nero Scout also get installed but Scout can be de-activated if one works hard enough at it!

I notice there is a new May 30, 2008 update to Nero7, version 7.11.10.0 which is available here. But the Release Notes only include to 7.11.6.0 so I can't tell if there is any change at all to Nero Showtime. My own version (updated to 7.10.1) comes with Showtime 3.10.1.0 which does not appear to have changed, not w/7.11.6 anyway.

1. Does anyone here have 7.11.10.0? What version Showtime therein? Release Notes? My gosh it's massive at 388Mb vs. update 7.10.1 which was only 177Mb!?

2. Could Ahead Nero possibly have made things more complex, both for end-users and for themselves?

yesgrey · 7th June 2008, 19:26

Yes, I installed it. Showtime is 3.10.1.0, apparently only BurningRom was updated. The size is 388MB because it's the multi-language pack. Your previous with 177MB was only english, right?

Sorry for the off-topic...

Is there any place with more detailed instructions for using eac3to? Reading more >100 pages for finding what I need it's a real pain...

deathlord · 8th June 2008, 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesgrey3

Is there any place with more detailed instructions for using eac3to? Reading more >100 pages for finding what I need it's a real pain...

There is...

nautilus7 · 8th June 2008, 09:55

Actually, that page is part of the manual: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/eac3to

It's incomplete and kinda out of date though (it doesn't not have latest eac3to features).

yesgrey · 8th June 2008, 11:47

That's exactly what I was looking for! Could be outdated, but the basics are all there!

Why is not a link to the manual in the first post?

jeffnoone · 8th June 2008, 17:12

Can I get some help with regard to E-AC3 and standard AC3

I have a HD-DVD where all audio tracks are E-AC3, but the English one (the one I'm interested in ) is 1536kbit/s (others are 768)

Now I want to put this into a BD structure

So when I run eac3to on the 2 connected .evo files, and output the ac3 only - eac3to seems to use the Sonic encoder, and convert s the E-AC3 to AC3 at 640. Note I didnt change any buttons on Eac3to and more GUI - left at default - most recent version used

When I run tsRemuxeR, it leaves the E-AC3 intact (and playable?), so its left at 1536

TWO questions:

Q. 1. How do I get eac3to to output the E-AC3?

Q. 2. I know support of E-AC3 is optional in the BD world, I will be using PS3 to play, which I believe supports it.
BUT will a BD with a E-AC3 track only play properly more widely (eg if I was to burn to BD disc)
Or would I be better off putting both the AC3 and the E-AC3 onto the BD disc/folders

Thanks Jeff

Before anyone points out the obvious of why I am using a program called "eac3to" and still wanting to get eac3 out, the reason for this I am a relative noob, and my reading indicated that eac3to gave best demuxed output, remaining in sync, with multipart .evo or branching .evo
This is a straight two part .evo - but overall wanted to make sure whatever AC3 I use, it is fully synced

I demuxed the same file using evodemux, eac3to and tsremuxer:

This is what I got for a 2hr 15min VC-1, E-AC3 original files (FEATURE_1.EVO and FEATURE_2.EVO):

Video (size in Windows Explorer):
tsRemuxer 19,436,556
evodemux 19,436,643
Eac3to 19,436,643

Audio:
tsRemuxer 1,527,399
evodemux 1,527,401
Eac3to 636,418

The diference in size of the video files represent only 0.04 sec, so seems inconsequential
Any comments on why there are minor (probably negligible) differences?

Final question:
What is best tool to give exact lenghts of video and audio files, once demuxed? MediaInfo only gives to the minute for audio files

Thunderbolt8 · 8th June 2008, 19:36

the remuxing of the cinema paradiso blu-ray results in a problem, eac3to says "This doesn't seem to be a valid h264/AVC stream." and doesnt recognize the video stream.

heres a 100mb sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?uydzmenzsn0

anyone else encountered this problem as well?

jeffnoone · 8th June 2008, 19:59

OK, I figured out part of the question 2 posts above

the way I got eac3to to output an E-AC3 (eac3) was to use the enhanced GUI to "pretend" to output an AC3, then use Ctrl-C on the command window area, copy the (long) string of commands into notepad, change .ac3 to .eac3, save as batch fiel and run from command window
File is same size as evodemux

Still interested in answers to:

Q. 2. I know support of E-AC3 is optional in the BD world, I will be using PS3 to play, which I believe supports it.
BUT will a BD with a E-AC3 track only play properly more widely (eg if I was to burn to BD disc)
Or would I be better off putting both the AC3 and the E-AC3 onto the BD disc/folders

q.3 Any comments on why there are minor (probably negligible) differences between different demuxers?

Q4. What is best tool to give exact lengths of video and audio files, once demuxed? MediaInfo only gives to the minute for audio files

itsancho · 9th June 2008, 01:57

hi all, again... ;-)

Quote:

eac3to v2.46
command line: z\eac3to "G:\There Will Be Blood (2007) Blu-ray VC-1 TrueHD" 1) 1: i:\twbb.txt 2: i:\twbb.mkv 3: l:\twbb.flac
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M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 2:38:26
1: Chapters, 8 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
5: AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
Creating file "i:\twbb.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Extracting TrueHD stream...
[a03] Removing dialog normalization...
[a03] Encoding FLAC...
[a03] This audio track contains more than 16 bit of information.
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Creating file "l:\twbb.24bit.flac"...
[libav] End of stream indicated
[libav] Lossless check failed - expected 0, calculated 21
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 227909 frames.
eac3to processing took 51 minutes, 32 seconds.
Done.

madshi, Flac btw is perfectly OK, but I just wonder what that means...

dburckh · 9th June 2008, 05:13

I looked through the archives of this beast of a thread on how to convert HD DVD TrueHD and mux it to TS. It kind of died. Wanted to bring up a couple of things. I know you can have PCM in TS, I've done it with Ratatouille. Plays fine on my Popcornhour.

So converted some TrueHD to .wav, but what I ended up with with 16-bit. eac3to said something about only being 16-bit. I'm using the Nero 7 codecs. Is this due to the source, or did I due something wrong?

I've only ever seen 24-bit BluRay PCM, so I don't know if 16-bit is supported. TsMuxer muxed it, but it did play on my Popcornhour. I don't know if it was the 16-bit or a bug in TsMuxer (I didn't use TsMuxer for Ratatouille.) Anybody had any luck with this?

yonta · 9th June 2008, 08:16

@dburckh

You did nothing wrong and it's not a bug in eac3to or tsMuxeR.
There are a lot of 16-bit TrueHD and LPCM tracks in HD DVD and Blu-ray.

nautilus7 · 9th June 2008, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsancho

madshi, Flac btw is perfectly OK, but I just wonder what that means...

It's a bug in libav decoder. Doesn't make any difference though, the track should be fine as you said. If you have nero decoder, you can try it and compare the two tracks.

dburckh · 9th June 2008, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by yonta

@dburckh

You did nothing wrong and it's not a bug in eac3to or tsMuxeR.
There are a lot of 16-bit TrueHD and LPCM tracks in HD DVD and Blu-ray.

I've only seen 24-bit, but I haven't played with it much. I'll have a look-see at the PMT and see what's up there. There's a lot that can go wrong, decode, muxing, Popcornhour, and Amp. I'll see if I can find a BluRay with 16-bit PCM.

Looks like Casino Royale is 16-bit. I'll run that thought RemuxTool and see what I get. Then I'll compare the PMT to what TsMuxer generated.

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yesgrey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,295	inmetzi, My reply was for jeffnoone who referred was using nero 7.5.7.0 and even with the key had problems, but thank you for referring the key, I realize my post was incomplete. So, we need the key for activating the plugin, and nero 7, version 7.8.5.0 or higher, because only those have the plugin included to be activated. PS: madshi, maybe could be a good idea if you also include the nero 7 version number needed in your first post... Last edited by yesgrey; 7th June 2008 at 11:02.

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yesgrey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,295	Yes, I installed it. Showtime is 3.10.1.0, apparently only BurningRom was updated. The size is 388MB because it's the multi-language pack. Your previous with 177MB was only english, right? Sorry for the off-topic... Is there any place with more detailed instructions for using eac3to? Reading more >100 pages for finding what I need it's a real pain... Last edited by yesgrey; 7th June 2008 at 19:29.

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jeffnoone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 87	Can I get some help with regard to E-AC3 and standard AC3 I have a HD-DVD where all audio tracks are E-AC3, but the English one (the one I'm interested in ) is 1536kbit/s (others are 768) Now I want to put this into a BD structure So when I run eac3to on the 2 connected .evo files, and output the ac3 only - eac3to seems to use the Sonic encoder, and convert s the E-AC3 to AC3 at 640. Note I didnt change any buttons on Eac3to and more GUI - left at default - most recent version used When I run tsRemuxeR, it leaves the E-AC3 intact (and playable?), so its left at 1536 TWO questions: Q. 1. How do I get eac3to to output the E-AC3? Q. 2. I know support of E-AC3 is optional in the BD world, I will be using PS3 to play, which I believe supports it. BUT will a BD with a E-AC3 track only play properly more widely (eg if I was to burn to BD disc) Or would I be better off putting both the AC3 and the E-AC3 onto the BD disc/folders Thanks Jeff Before anyone points out the obvious of why I am using a program called "eac3to" and still wanting to get eac3 out, the reason for this I am a relative noob, and my reading indicated that eac3to gave best demuxed output, remaining in sync, with multipart .evo or branching .evo This is a straight two part .evo - but overall wanted to make sure whatever AC3 I use, it is fully synced I demuxed the same file using evodemux, eac3to and tsremuxer: This is what I got for a 2hr 15min VC-1, E-AC3 original files (FEATURE_1.EVO and FEATURE_2.EVO): Video (size in Windows Explorer): tsRemuxer 19,436,556 evodemux 19,436,643 Eac3to 19,436,643 Audio: tsRemuxer 1,527,399 evodemux 1,527,401 Eac3to 636,418 The diference in size of the video files represent only 0.04 sec, so seems inconsequential Any comments on why there are minor (probably negligible) differences? Final question: What is best tool to give exact lenghts of video and audio files, once demuxed? MediaInfo only gives to the minute for audio files Last edited by jeffnoone; 8th June 2008 at 19:31. Reason: Addition and further question

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yonta Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 136	@dburckh You did nothing wrong and it's not a bug in eac3to or tsMuxeR. There are a lot of 16-bit TrueHD and LPCM tracks in HD DVD and Blu-ray. Last edited by yonta; 9th June 2008 at 08:18.

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rebkell Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 303	eac3to will not stripPullDown on HD-DVD AVC streams, only on VC-1, is that correct?

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nautilus7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,518	.eac3 or .ddp

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boombastic Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ascoli Piceno-Italy Posts: 279	I just want to say a big big thanks to the author of this program:with megui and you r tool, backuing up a Blu Ray to a MKV with the best possbile quality is just so easy!!!Many many thanks!

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nautilus7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 1,518	Actually, that page is part of the manual: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/eac3to It's incomplete and kinda out of date though (it doesn't not have latest eac3to features).

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yesgrey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,295	That's exactly what I was looking for! Could be outdated, but the basics are all there! Why is not a link to the manual in the first post?

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,197	the remuxing of the cinema paradiso blu-ray results in a problem, eac3to says "This doesn't seem to be a valid h264/AVC stream." and doesnt recognize the video stream. heres a 100mb sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?uydzmenzsn0 anyone else encountered this problem as well?

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jeffnoone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 87	OK, I figured out part of the question 2 posts above the way I got eac3to to output an E-AC3 (eac3) was to use the enhanced GUI to "pretend" to output an AC3, then use Ctrl-C on the command window area, copy the (long) string of commands into notepad, change .ac3 to .eac3, save as batch fiel and run from command window File is same size as evodemux Still interested in answers to: Q. 2. I know support of E-AC3 is optional in the BD world, I will be using PS3 to play, which I believe supports it. BUT will a BD with a E-AC3 track only play properly more widely (eg if I was to burn to BD disc) Or would I be better off putting both the AC3 and the E-AC3 onto the BD disc/folders q.3 Any comments on why there are minor (probably negligible) differences between different demuxers? Q4. What is best tool to give exact lengths of video and audio files, once demuxed? MediaInfo only gives to the minute for audio files

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dburckh Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 81	I looked through the archives of this beast of a thread on how to convert HD DVD TrueHD and mux it to TS. It kind of died. Wanted to bring up a couple of things. I know you can have PCM in TS, I've done it with Ratatouille. Plays fine on my Popcornhour. So converted some TrueHD to .wav, but what I ended up with with 16-bit. eac3to said something about only being 16-bit. I'm using the Nero 7 codecs. Is this due to the source, or did I due something wrong? I've only ever seen 24-bit BluRay PCM, so I don't know if 16-bit is supported. TsMuxer muxed it, but it did play on my Popcornhour. I don't know if it was the 16-bit or a bug in TsMuxer (I didn't use TsMuxer for Ratatouille.) Anybody had any luck with this?