ELTA 8882 Divx 3.11 Problems !

whazzaa · 10th September 2003, 15:38

I asked elta germay when the new firmware will be released because i still got problems this the playback of divx3.11 files.

They answerd me :

Dear Sir, DivX 3.11 is fully supported. When it is not working with your CD´s, then is something wrong with the files or it is burned wrong

Well if you guy's out there got some problemens with the divx3.11 encoded files please post it.

Please mention how the file is encoded bitrate, framerate etc etc etc.
So we can send this info to elta, hopefully they will fix a few things.

Cheers

Wh@ZzAa

smiller667 · 10th September 2003, 23:11

Currently no player fully supports divx3.11 playback, correct me if I am wrong ... you will always get some stuttering, even with the new Philips player (ESS-based).

Doom9 · 10th September 2003, 23:37

smiller667 is correct. Every Sigma and ESS based player on the market will exhibit freezes and skips with high bitrate DivX3 clips.

Zhnujm · 11th September 2003, 14:29

mmh, i have a Divx3.11 test clip with an average of 4000kBit /720x576 wich plays perfect on my Yamada 6100 (ess based).
Also some few 2cd Movies wich play all without problem.
In fact, i cannot find a difference in bitrate/resolution limitations between DivX3.11 and DivX5 with this player.

Doom9 · 11th September 2003, 15:35

what kind of test clips? An 700kbit/s average could be more problematic than a 4mbit clip if the 4mbit is almost cbr whereas the 700kbit has 10mbit peaks.
btw, where did you get that player from? I wasn't even aware there were other players based on the ess chipset.

Zhnujm · 11th September 2003, 17:09

As my Nandub skills are now very limited i can only test some peaks with the Fast Motion version of the clip, this version has a average of 1600kBit and peaks going up to 5000kBit (DFRAnalyzer reports 10000kBit as the biggst size, but thats only for some single frames).
My 2cd encodes are Nandub encodes wich should also have some bitrate peaks.
The files were all completely unwatchable with the elta Player. All you could see are a few frames from the whole clip.

I bought it from MediaMarkt (Germany) two weeks ago for 99Euro.
For this price i couldnt resist.

Doom9 · 11th September 2003, 20:17

if you find an online store that ships abroad let me know. I got my elta at Media Markt but I haven't seen another DivX capable player since, and no Yamada player whatsoever. I'd sure like to give an ESS based player a spin.

Zhnujm · 11th September 2003, 20:41

I think that will be difficult the next week(s).
There were only a limited numbers available, and they are completely sold out yet. You cannot even pre-order them anymore at www.mediamarkt.de.
Maybe there are some at eBay but only for horrible prices. The Xoro HSD 400 uses also the ESS chipset, but i heard nothing good about it. (And its also sold out)

I cannot really recommend them until know, theres no zooming for AVI files, (only typical MPEG resolutions are zoomed to fullscreen), and no support for 2 Audio streams.

The zooming should be fixed this month but lets wait and see...

Anynomous · 13th September 2003, 04:55

Well, I have the elta 8882A. I flashed with their latest Firmwareupdate 1.0.0.6 But still, i couldnt played my divx3.11 files. Everytime when i played then it will stuttering time to time. Other than that it plays fine.

Here is what it showed when i used "Gspot" to identify the file.

Video:

Codec:
4CC: div3
Name: DivX 3 Low-Motion
Runtime:01:38:14 (141,308 fr)
X:Y: 640x272 (2.35:1) [=40:17]
Bitrate: 851 kb/s
FPS: 23.976
QF: 0.204 bits/pixel

Audio:

Codec:
Name: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Bitrate: 135 kb/s (67/ch, stereo) VBR LAME3.90
FS: 44100 Hz

Well, if anyone have any idea(s) then help!!!!!

Doom9 · 13th September 2003, 09:41

Quote:

Well, if anyone have any idea(s) then help!!!!!

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Quote:

smiller667 is correct. Every Sigma and ESS based player on the market will exhibit freezes and skips with high bitrate DivX3 clips

It doesn't have to be 2mbit average, it can be 600kbit average with 10mbit peaks and you'll get freezes during those peaks.

zag2me · 15th September 2003, 11:05

Just to note, Divx 3.11 plays back very well on the KISS dp-500 player using the sigma 8550 chipset and the new 2.7.0 firmware. So the sigma based players are capable of good 3.11 playback, it just depends on the amount of cache/ram available. Many users however are still having problems with the dp-450 and 3.11 playback

The 8550 chipset seems to be alot better at playback than the 8500 and I hear that the new sigma chipsets are even better.

10th September 2003, 15:38	#1 \| Link
whazzaa Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 26	ELTA 8882 Divx 3.11 Problems ! I asked elta germay when the new firmware will be released because i still got problems this the playback of divx3.11 files. They answerd me : Dear Sir, DivX 3.11 is fully supported. When it is not working with your CD´s, then is something wrong with the files or it is burned wrong Well if you guy's out there got some problemens with the divx3.11 encoded files please post it. Please mention how the file is encoded bitrate, framerate etc etc etc. So we can send this info to elta, hopefully they will fix a few things. Cheers Wh@ZzAa

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	smiller667 is correct. Every Sigma and ESS based player on the market will exhibit freezes and skips with high bitrate DivX3 clips. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	what kind of test clips? An 700kbit/s average could be more problematic than a 4mbit clip if the 4mbit is almost cbr whereas the 700kbit has 10mbit peaks. btw, where did you get that player from? I wasn't even aware there were other players based on the ess chipset. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

11th September 2003, 20:17	#7 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	if you find an online store that ships abroad let me know. I got my elta at Media Markt but I haven't seen another DivX capable player since, and no Yamada player whatsoever. I'd sure like to give an ESS based player a spin. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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10th September 2003, 23:11	#2 \| Link
smiller667 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,125	Currently no player fully supports divx3.11 playback, correct me if I am wrong ... you will always get some stuttering, even with the new Philips player (ESS-based).

11th September 2003, 14:29	#4 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	mmh, i have a Divx3.11 test clip with an average of 4000kBit /720x576 wich plays perfect on my Yamada 6100 (ess based). Also some few 2cd Movies wich play all without problem. In fact, i cannot find a difference in bitrate/resolution limitations between DivX3.11 and DivX5 with this player.

11th September 2003, 17:09	#6 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	As my Nandub skills are now very limited i can only test some peaks with the Fast Motion version of the clip, this version has a average of 1600kBit and peaks going up to 5000kBit (DFRAnalyzer reports 10000kBit as the biggst size, but thats only for some single frames). My 2cd encodes are Nandub encodes wich should also have some bitrate peaks. The files were all completely unwatchable with the elta Player. All you could see are a few frames from the whole clip. I bought it from MediaMarkt (Germany) two weeks ago for 99Euro. For this price i couldnt resist.

11th September 2003, 20:41	#8 \| Link
Zhnujm Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 983	I think that will be difficult the next week(s). There were only a limited numbers available, and they are completely sold out yet. You cannot even pre-order them anymore at www.mediamarkt.de. Maybe there are some at eBay but only for horrible prices. The Xoro HSD 400 uses also the ESS chipset, but i heard nothing good about it. (And its also sold out) I cannot really recommend them until know, theres no zooming for AVI files, (only typical MPEG resolutions are zoomed to fullscreen), and no support for 2 Audio streams. The zooming should be fixed this month but lets wait and see...

13th September 2003, 04:55	#9 \| Link
Anynomous Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3	Well, I have the elta 8882A. I flashed with their latest Firmwareupdate 1.0.0.6 But still, i couldnt played my divx3.11 files. Everytime when i played then it will stuttering time to time. Other than that it plays fine. Here is what it showed when i used "Gspot" to identify the file. Video: Codec: 4CC: div3 Name: DivX 3 Low-Motion Runtime:01:38:14 (141,308 fr) X:Y: 640x272 (2.35:1) [=40:17] Bitrate: 851 kb/s FPS: 23.976 QF: 0.204 bits/pixel Audio: Codec: Name: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3 Bitrate: 135 kb/s (67/ch, stereo) VBR LAME3.90 FS: 44100 Hz Well, if anyone have any idea(s) then help!!!!!

15th September 2003, 11:05	#11 \| Link
zag2me Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 67	Just to note, Divx 3.11 plays back very well on the KISS dp-500 player using the sigma 8550 chipset and the new 2.7.0 firmware. So the sigma based players are capable of good 3.11 playback, it just depends on the amount of cache/ram available. Many users however are still having problems with the dp-450 and 3.11 playback The 8550 chipset seems to be alot better at playback than the 8500 and I hear that the new sigma chipsets are even better.