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Old 8th February 2005, 21:49   #61  |  Link
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Got the file and duplicated the problem. My source code is at home so when I get home this evening I will determine the cause.

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Old 8th February 2005, 23:49   #62  |  Link
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neuron2,

Thanks a lot and sorry for the last post. I'm afraid I made some mess with uninstalling and reinstalling things.

Now I am getting the same "Evaluate: Unrecognized exception!" in Vdubmod as moonwatcher reports and only when I apply Forced Film.
All I can say is that it it invariably happens with every vob I've tried: No FF: success, FF: failure.
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Old 9th February 2005, 00:18   #63  |  Link
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Yes, me too. I'll fix it and make an RC3 tonight.
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Old 9th February 2005, 00:35   #64  |  Link
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neuron2,

Thanks!
In case it might bring some extra info for RC3 I've just found out this: the audio delays I get are different between the tracks demuxed with ff and those without ff (using RC2, of course). Those which have 0ms delay are the tracks demuxed with no ff applied. It seems all the problem goes to ff in RC2, doesn't it?
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Old 9th February 2005, 01:37   #65  |  Link
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Here's RC3. It's important to get the FF crash fixed.

http://neuron2.net/fixd2v/dgmpgdec120rc3.zip

I'll look into the delay issue now, loni_blues. How big of a difference did you see? It should never be more than one frame time (33ms for NTSC, 40ms for PAL). I know why it is happening and it will be very HARD to change. I was planning to write a journal entry about it. This will motivate me to do so.

Oh, RC3 has the DGParse and DGFix for the new D2V format, and it gives len0x what he was looking for in regard to the old 0,1,2,3 thingie.

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Old 9th February 2005, 01:43   #66  |  Link
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what delay issues?
i dont think the DVD has any angles in it.
it does look like a poor mastering (shame for such a greate movie).

will not using force film and using decomb to do the job help?
i am not sure i understand what could cause the behaviour you described.
any chance it has to do with the way i configured DVDDecrypter?
(i asked to leave only the first angle, even though i dont think there are any). any further info you want about the media?
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I was all wrong. It was a straight bug in allocation of memory in the FF case. I hate being wrong, but there it is.
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Old 9th February 2005, 02:24   #68  |  Link
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so are we waiting for another version or is it already fixed on RC3?
BTW i would love to help programing if needed, i have quite some background in programing, but mainly enterprise, never did any A/V stuff. though i am quite good with algorithms in general.
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Old 9th February 2005, 04:51   #69  |  Link
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You're right neuron2!

I have only tested NTSC (due to availability) and the differences in audio delay range from 16 to 34 ms (0 and 66ms with no ff and 16 and 100ms with ff, accordingly).

FF d2vs can be opened now with RC3!

Thanks!
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so are we waiting for another version or is it already fixed on RC3?
BTW i would love to help programing if needed, i have quite some background in programing, but mainly enterprise, never did any A/V stuff. though i am quite good with algorithms in general.
It's fixed, moonwatcher.

Thank you for your offer of assistance. When I release 1.2.0 final, you can grab the source code and have a look at the development list sticky thread. If you feel like tackling something, just let me know.
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Oh, RC3 has the DGParse and DGFix for the new D2V format, and it gives len0x what he was looking for in regard to the old 0,1,2,3 thingie.
Thanks! Not that I mind having different schema (as long as I know how to interpret it), but strings are easier to compare than hex numbers =)

I was also surprised to see matrix info in RC2 when I managed to use debug info from RC1 already (I have custom build avisynth script debugger built for my programs), but its definitely faster to parse D2V then do special analysis pass
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Old 9th February 2005, 21:59   #72  |  Link
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Firstly, nice work on these new builds of DGindex.
Secondly, I feel kind of stupid for asking this but what do we do with the output of dgparse.
Sample from last run,
Code:
[GOP START]
95463: 95463,95463..............2
95464: 95464,95464..............2
95465: 95465,95465..............2
95466: 95466,95466..............2
95467: 95467,95467..............2
95468: 95468,95468..............2
95469: 95469,95469..............2
95470: 95470,95470..............2
95471: 95471,95471..............2
95472: 95472,95472..............2
95473: 95473,95473..............2
95474: 95474,95474..............2
95475: 95475,95475..............2
95476: 95476,95476..............2
95477: 95477,95477..............2
[EOF]
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You can use the output to determine whether pulldown is present and what patterns it has. The numbers on the right are the pulldown digits. They can be 0, 1, 2, or 3. See here for a technical discussion:

http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm#Te...GuideToDVD2AVI

For example, I can see from the frame numbers to the left that there has not been any pulldown up to that point. I can conclude that you have a top-field first movie. If it is NTSC, it is probably interlaced but may be hard telecined. To distinguish the two, you'd need to step through the output and see if you get a pattern of 3 progressive frames followed by 2 interlaced frames.

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Old 9th February 2005, 23:16   #74  |  Link
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Hi neuron2,

can you bring back the autoincrement functionality? I mentioned it in another thread too. I know that we have a drag & drop function but it´s not the same like...you know what I mean

Please!
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I agree that it is not the same but, no, I don't know what you mean. You have to justify your request. Is there a problem for you with the current operation? If so, what is it?
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The problem I see: If I open a folder with a lot of vobs (e.g. a DVD folder)...I know whats the first vob but I don´t know whats the last needed vob...with "autoincrement open" I never had to think about because the old DGIndex former DVD2AVI took care of this

...you know now what I mean?
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Here's the full difference between the methods:

You must draw a box around the files you want rather than double-clicking on the first one.

That's it.

Plus you gain the ability to selectively choose your files. Seems like a good trade off to me.
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You must draw a box around the files you want
Thats the problem...you must know the needed files...do you know always the main movie vobs?
Drag & drop is fine but I miss the good old double-click-on-the-first-file-method
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Sorry, but the time to have brought this up is when the feature change was discussed here. If you were not around at that time, or not interested in the discussion, well, tough luck.
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Thats the problem...you must know the needed files...do you know always the main movie vobs?
Drag & drop is fine but I miss the good old double-click-on-the-first-file-method
Yep, I always know what vobs are main movie vobs. I could offer help in this regard...

How are you ripping the vobs? If you are using DVDDecrypter you can configure it to rip only the main movie vobs and not to split vobs. Would that help?
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