EVOB De/Multiplexers - Page 11

Eastermeyer · 22nd January 2007, 13:16

I demuxed a vc1-stream with the demux tool offered here,then i try to mux it into mkv with Haali , but this process is taking a incredible long time , is that normal ?

Ginsonic · 22nd January 2007, 13:21

Is it only possible to play the mkv-files (video only) created with isochromas method with Sonic filters or do other working DirectShow filters (e.g. from WinDVD, PowerDVD) exist ?

Eastermeyer · 22nd January 2007, 18:41

Anyone managed to compile ffmpeg with the E-AC3 Patch ?

Warren · 22nd January 2007, 19:21

Yes but it only allows for detection and demuxing of an E-AC3 stream, not decoding.

planet1 · 22nd January 2007, 19:45

@drmpeg

Thx for this great tool

.

Since it already supports EVOBs and VOBs, how about adding the capability to demux AOBs as found on DVD-Audio ?

regards

chros · 23rd January 2007, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape

here's what i used as a test for reencoding an .evo to x264/HE-AAC. you can also do AC3 using the FFMPEG encoder megui comes with.
some problems i had are you have to specify the number of frames manually (you can determine this using virtualdub) and seeking with large files takes ages (hence disabling the preview in megui). to get 5.1 output you need to set your speakers to 5.1 in windows audio properties and then set it to 5.1 in the intervideo decoder in the graph.
there might be some avisynth settings to fix this, or maybe a better demuxer.

Can anyone confirm the correct channel number/mapping in the audio conversion part?

holzi · 23rd January 2007, 14:13

I didn't get any audio out of it.

So I don't know. I just wait until a better demuxxer and decoder comes around.

mixanobios · 23rd January 2007, 14:47

the above audio graph does not work for Movie Equilibrium. Just sent a sample to demux author for him to have a look

lordx · 23rd January 2007, 15:45

When using a graph or player to render evo files, how to choose audio track ? If we have 2 or 3 audio tracks on the evo file, how to select track 2 or 3 ?

I've the same problem using software when playing decrypted evo files, PDVD6.5 for exemple, unable to select audio track ....

chros · 23rd January 2007, 16:50

@lordx: you can't that's why we need demux ...

I have been playing around Serenity' mianintro.evo and ape's idea, and it seems that Sonic filters is defenetly output 24 fps !

graph:
mainintro.evo -> sonic demuxer -> sonic video decoder

avs:
DirectShowSource("MAININTRO.grf", audio=false, fps=24, seek=true, seekzero=false, framecount=1550)
LanczosResize(1280,720)
ConvertToYV12()
Info()

So it gives the 01:04:528 time, which is good.

Q: How do we know if it produce the correct frames?
A: try a larger framecount value (eg: 2300), and see that after the intro (01:04:528) it gives us grey color picture !!!

So the tricky part is how we get the correct framecount ! Maybe ape can help us in this.
If you give smaller framecount value it cuts the stream at the given point... It's okay with single files, but not with multiple evos

So we must know the correct framecount ...

I'll try this method with Serenity feauture_1.evo to see if it's correct ...

23rd January 2007, 17:14

I don't quite see the problem. The framecount is simply calculated from the .XPL timestamps and the framerate, or am I missing something here?

chros · 23rd January 2007, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by honai

The framecount is simply calculated from the .XPL timestamps and the framerate ...

How ?

if an XPL file contains this:

Code:

...
<TitleSet timeBase="60fps" tickBase="24fps" ...
...
<Title titleNumber="1" alternativeSDDisplayMode="letterbox" titleDuration="01:58:54:22" ...

What is the framecount?

23rd January 2007, 22:48

257638 frames.

EDIT:

Doh. Should've used Google calc right away. See below.

mixanobios · 23rd January 2007, 23:00

if it is 1h, 58m, 54s, 220ms then its 7134.22sec
@24fps, thats 171221,8 frames (give or take :P)

for 257638 frames we need a movie of 2 h, 58m, 54s, 916ms, which is about an hour less than titleduration.

so please stop using Calc for windows!!!

Rufus210 · 23rd January 2007, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus210

Anyone tried the FFMPEG patches that add EVBO and E-AC3 (DD+) support?
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/...ry/051024.html
http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/...ry/051073.html

I finally got around to trying these patches (just grab the SVN of ffmpeg and then apply the 3 patches). They work, mostly. Here's one working output:

Code:

$ ./ffmpeg -i DELSCENE1.EVO -acodec copy -vcodec copy DELSCENE1.avi
FFmpeg version SVN-r7676, Copyright (c) 2000-2006 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration:  
  libavutil version: 49.2.0
  libavcodec version: 51.29.0
  libavformat version: 51.8.0
  built on Jan 23 2007 17:04:42, gcc: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)
Input #0, mpeg, from 'DELSCENE1.EVO':
  Duration: 00:00:29.8, start: 0.037278, bitrate: 7487 kb/s
  Stream #0.0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, 9800 kb/s, 29.97 fps(r)
  Stream #0.1[0xc1]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
  Stream #0.2[0xc0]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
  Stream #0.3[0x22]: Subtitle: dvdsub
  Stream #0.4[0x21]: Subtitle: dvdsub
Output #0, avi, to 'DELSCENE1.avi':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=2-31, 9800 kb/s, 29.97 fps(c)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
  Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
Press [q] to stop encoding
frame=  896 q=1141135.2 Lsize=   25845kB time=29.9 bitrate=7089.7kbits/s    
video:25092kB audio:700kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.204367%

The resulting AVI plays fine with mplayer and can be re-encoded to whatever you want.

It can parse EVOs with VC1 streams in it, but it can't write them properly. This is the output from an EVO with VC1:

Code:

$ ./ffmpeg -i sample.evo -acodec copy -vcodec copy sample.avi
FFmpeg version SVN-r7676, Copyright (c) 2000-2006 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration:  
  libavutil version: 49.2.0
  libavcodec version: 51.29.0
  libavformat version: 51.8.0
  built on Jan 23 2007 17:04:42, gcc: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)

Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: inf (1/0) -> 90000.00 (90000/1)
Input #0, mpeg, from 'sample.evo':
  Duration: 00:00:10.6, start: 0.038278, bitrate: 11808 kb/s
  Stream #0.0[0xfd55]: Video: vc1, 90000.00 fps(r)
  Stream #0.1[0xc3]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
  Stream #0.2[0xc2]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 768 kb/s
  Stream #0.3[0xc1]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 768 kb/s
  Stream #0.4[0xc0]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 1536 kb/s
Output #0, avi, to 'sample.avi':
  Stream #0.0: Video: 0x0000, q=2-31, 90000.00 fps(c)
  Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
  Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
[avi @ 0x843f914]dimensions not set
Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters ?)

@drmpeg: do you think you can look at this a bit since you have a fully working decoder? Once ffmpeg (libavcodec) fully supports EVOs it'll propagate out to a huge number of other project (mplayer, xine, ffdshow, etc). Thanks!

edo1080 · 24th January 2007, 00:29

Just to unterstand: does the demux process cause any losso of video quality in the file? Is the video stream left unaltered by this process? How to join the 2 video files coming from demuxing?

toxik · 24th January 2007, 01:59

hey guys is installing scenarist the only way you can get the codecs to work? I'm having trouble installing the program, as soon as I open setup.exe it gives me an error saying that my configuration does not support any of the included products.

oberon · 24th January 2007, 02:37

Toxik
Are you trying to install under vista. When I tried I got the same error so I just installed it on an other box

toxik · 24th January 2007, 03:29

no, xp media center.... what's more odd is that I had it installed before, under this system. I uninstalled it later and want to get it again just for the codecs.

moshmothma · 24th January 2007, 04:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik

no, xp media center.... what's more odd is that I had it installed before, under this system. I uninstalled it later and want to get it again just for the codecs.

I couldn't install on media center either.
Normal Xp worked fine.

22nd January 2007, 13:16	#201 \| Link
Eastermeyer Happy Easter! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 73	I demuxed a vc1-stream with the demux tool offered here,then i try to mux it into mkv with Haali , but this process is taking a incredible long time , is that normal ? __________________ Sorry for my terrible English! I am from Germany.

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Eastermeyer Happy Easter! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 73	Anyone managed to compile ffmpeg with the E-AC3 Patch ? __________________ Sorry for my terrible English! I am from Germany.

22nd January 2007, 19:45	#205 \| Link
planet1 ... space nerd ... Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Terra Posts: 163	AOB support ? @drmpeg Thx for this great tool . Since it already supports EVOBs and VOBs, how about adding the capability to demux AOBs as found on DVD-Audio ? regards

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honai Guest Posts: n/a	257638 frames. EDIT: Doh. Should've used Google calc right away. See below. Last edited by honai; 23rd January 2007 at 23:07.

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mixanobios Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 33	if it is 1h, 58m, 54s, 220ms then its 7134.22sec @24fps, thats 171221,8 frames (give or take :P) for 257638 frames we need a movie of 2 h, 58m, 54s, 916ms, which is about an hour less than titleduration. so please stop using Calc for windows!!! Last edited by mixanobios; 23rd January 2007 at 23:01. Reason: calc

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Ginsonic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austria Posts: 44	Is it only possible to play the mkv-files (video only) created with isochromas method with Sonic filters or do other working DirectShow filters (e.g. from WinDVD, PowerDVD) exist ?

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Warren Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 68	Yes but it only allows for detection and demuxing of an E-AC3 stream, not decoding.

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holzi Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 47	I didn't get any audio out of it. So I don't know. I just wait until a better demuxxer and decoder comes around.

23rd January 2007, 14:47	#208 \| Link
mixanobios Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Crete, Greece Posts: 33	the above audio graph does not work for Movie Equilibrium. Just sent a sample to demux author for him to have a look

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lordx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: France Posts: 34	When using a graph or player to render evo files, how to choose audio track ? If we have 2 or 3 audio tracks on the evo file, how to select track 2 or 3 ? I've the same problem using software when playing decrypted evo files, PDVD6.5 for exemple, unable to select audio track ....

23rd January 2007, 16:50	#210 \| Link
chros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,323	@lordx: you can't that's why we need demux ... I have been playing around Serenity' mianintro.evo and ape's idea, and it seems that Sonic filters is defenetly output 24 fps ! graph: mainintro.evo -> sonic demuxer -> sonic video decoder avs: DirectShowSource("MAININTRO.grf", audio=false, fps=24, seek=true, seekzero=false, framecount=1550) LanczosResize(1280,720) ConvertToYV12() Info() So it gives the 01:04:528 time, which is good. Q: How do we know if it produce the correct frames? A: try a larger framecount value (eg: 2300), and see that after the intro (01:04:528) it gives us grey color picture !!! So the tricky part is how we get the correct framecount ! Maybe ape can help us in this. If you give smaller framecount value it cuts the stream at the given point... It's okay with single files, but not with multiple evos So we must know the correct framecount ... I'll try this method with Serenity feauture_1.evo to see if it's correct ...

23rd January 2007, 17:14	#211 \| Link
honai Guest Posts: n/a	I don't quite see the problem. The framecount is simply calculated from the .XPL timestamps and the framerate, or am I missing something here?

24th January 2007, 00:29	#216 \| Link
edo1080 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	Just to unterstand: does the demux process cause any losso of video quality in the file? Is the video stream left unaltered by this process? How to join the 2 video files coming from demuxing?

24th January 2007, 01:59	#217 \| Link
toxik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	hey guys is installing scenarist the only way you can get the codecs to work? I'm having trouble installing the program, as soon as I open setup.exe it gives me an error saying that my configuration does not support any of the included products.

24th January 2007, 02:37	#218 \| Link
oberon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 15	Toxik Are you trying to install under vista. When I tried I got the same error so I just installed it on an other box

24th January 2007, 03:29	#219 \| Link
toxik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12	no, xp media center.... what's more odd is that I had it installed before, under this system. I uninstalled it later and want to get it again just for the codecs. Last edited by toxik; 24th January 2007 at 03:32.