BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[bassnut]

Ripped it 3 times now today. Eyes are going blurry ........ long weekend and all. Tomorrow I'll be able to think more clearly.

@turbojet ....... will look into your suggestions tomorrow when I can see and think more clearly and don't have as much on the go.

Thanks and have a good night all.

[leChameleon]

Originally Posted by turbojet

leChameleon: this may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem.

Hi turbojet, thank you for pointing me to this fix. Please forgive my ignorance but how does one tell if a "VC-1" scenario exists and of the two encoders/decoders which one to choose for the right application? I have read the linked information however I'm uncertain to know how to proceed. As I am working with production machines I need to be careful and log which modifications I make to the environment and why.

FFDShow - {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
MPCVideoDecoder - {008BAC12-FBAF-497B-9670-BC6F6FBAE2C4}


Edit 01:
I believe now I see where to locate the VC-1 information.

[leChameleon]

Originally Posted by turbojet

leChameleon: this may fix your VC-1 in windows 7 problem.

I have attempted to update the following key only (not delete all keys as suggested) in the registry for Windows 7 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\
Replace {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD} # Default
with {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} # FDDShow

Here are the results:

Originally Posted by MILK (2008) FULL BACKUP)

[23:17:04] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: MILK
- Input BD size: 40.00 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:58:51.303]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
[23:17:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [23:17:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- [23:17:09] Collecting video information [00000]
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- Bitrate: 3,407 Kbs
- [23:17:09] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
[23:20:12] - Failed video encode, aborted

[turbojet]

Originally Posted by leChameleon

I have attempted to update the following key only (not delete all keys as suggested) in the registry for Windows 7 64-bit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred\
Replace {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD} # Default
with {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7} # FDDShow

What you are doing is changing the DVD decoder to ffdshow (if 64 bit ffdshow64 in 64 bit players).

Only use the hack7mc link to take permission of
(32bit) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred or in
(64bit) HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

Then continue on to step 2 of Atak_Snajpera which is right click the preferred folder -> export to backup, right click the folder again and delete.

Then on to step 3 of his post.

It does work on Win7 64 and doesn't seem to affect WMP12/MCE. Some good news is I was able to fully encode a few VC-1 clips I have that crashed x264 with Vista/XP WMP11. Bad news is it didn't decode them properly and broke up into a bunch of pixels.

[pan07]

bassnut, i got the exact same problem as you on alien v predator, however i'm pretty sure i was successful first time by selecting quicker encode for extras.
will have another go when i get more time.

[leChameleon]

Originally Posted by turbojet

What you are doing is changing the DVD decoder to ffdshow (if 64 bit ffdshow64 in 64 bit players).

Only use the hack7mc link to take permission of
(32bit) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred or in
(64bit) HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\DirectShow\Preferred

Then continue on to step 2 of Atak_Snajpera which is right click the preferred folder -> export to backup, right click the folder again and delete.

Then on to step 3 of his post.

It does work on Win7 64 and doesn't seem to affect WMP12/MCE. Some good news is I was able to fully encode a few VC-1 clips I have that crashed x264 with Vista/XP WMP11. Bad news is it didn't decode them properly and broke up into a bunch of pixels.

Hi turbojet,
I first tried only to update 2 registry keys as I'm working on a production machine. I have not yet finished analyzing what the ramifications are for deleting the "Preferred" folder and all of its contents. I need to ensure it will not affect anything to do with ensuring a failure. I wrote a PM to Atak_Snajpera asking if he knew more about what he's asked to delete. In the mean time I'm reviewing each one trying to cross reference what's going on.

To confirm what you are saying, if the "Preferred" keys are backed up then deleted BD-Rebuilder 0.20.09 will complete these "VC-1" BD DVD rips?

I do want to thank you for finding this workaround and pointing me to it.

[leChameleon]

Sorry again for my ignorance. Where dose one make the necessary modifications requested here?
"3) change VC-1 decoder to wmv9 (FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration)"

Am I right to assume that I just need to change "disabled" to "wmv9" below?

[hoju3508]

That's correct.

Originally Posted by leChameleon

Sorry again for my ignorance. Where dose one make the necessary modifications requested here?
"3) change VC-1 decoder to wmv9 (FFDShow Video Decoder Configuration)"

Am I right to assume that I just need to change "disabled" to "wmv9" below?

[DaMacFunkin]

Originally Posted by stef73

hiya again damacfunkin ive just tried it again and now if you select which version of sex drive you want to see click stop then top menu the gui will pop up tried it on panasonic bd35 in living room and its working

Yes it does seem to work like that Does Jdobbs or anybody know why this happens? Its obviously a bug...

[iSeries]

Hi,

Not sure if its a bug with BD-RB or something else (x264?). I've been backing up my blu-rays (all movie-only) to BD-25, and after some experimentation when first using the program discovered that a custom target size of 24166mb (23.6gb) will consistently fill 98% of the disc (consistentlly as in 100% of the time).

However my last couple of encodes have been massively undersized, The Bourne Supremacy came out at 21.1gb, which only fills 91% of the disc, and Interview With The Vampire came out even less, only filling 90% of the disc!

Thinking it may be a problem with the latest version, I rolled back to v0.20.05 and did them again - with the exact same results.

Anyone have any ideas why all of a sudden I've got such a big undersize? Nothing has changed on my system.

Log:

[21:53:32] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: BOURNE_SUPREM_G51
- Input BD size: 31.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:31.505]
- Target BD size: 23.60 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[21:53:32] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:53:32] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00009]
- [22:07:04] Reencoding: VID_00009 (1 of 1)
[18:31:06]PHASE ONE complete
[18:31:06]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:31:06] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:43:37] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:43:37]JOB: BOURNE_SUPREM_G51 completed.

INI:

[Status]
LABEL=BOURNE_SUPREM_G51
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34219560960
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=34219560960
TARGET_SIZE=25339887616
REDUCTION=.740508846551841
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00009]
AUDIO=01000000
PGS=0000000000000000000000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=25339887616
RATE=25000
NSIZE=21269501952
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Capsbackup]

@iSeries;

Anyone have any ideas why all of a sudden I've got such a big undersize? Nothing has changed on my system.

Perhaps encoder saturation. This does not appear to be a very long movie [01:48:31.505], so unless there is a lot of extras to fill out the disc, it undersizes. More important, how does the encode look? Filling up the disc does not mean better quality.

[bassnut]

Ok turbojet I had a chance to read the info from your threads you sent me ...... VID_00060 is MPEG2 not VC1.



I tried setting MIN_M2TS_SIZE=400 but since VID_00060 is part of a bigger set BD Rebuilde Ignores this setting if my reading is correct and I understand it completely.

Still not sure why it worked last time but not this time. This was the very first BD I tried to back up to BD 25 and can't remember the settings I used ...... pan07 might be right I might have used quicker encode for extras.

Ran the disk through BDINFO but didn't see anything that stood out, but then I don't really quite understand it all yet.

PRED 1.txt

If you have any thoughts cool if not then then I will let it be till later and try again. Either way Thanks for your help.

[leChameleon]

Thank you turbojet and hoju3508. Many of the issues I filed above have been resolved thus far with your help.

turbojet was correct in my case with "VC-1" video on Windows 7 64-bit.
I hope sometime in the future not to have to delete registry keys but for now there have been no ramifications and our production continues without interruption.

I've not yet had the chance to view the quality of the video using wmv9 however 4 of the films that were failing have successfully run through using BD-Rebuilder 0.20.09.

[GaPony]

This isn't the only set of issues to accompany the latest revision of Windows 7. I'm sure Microsoft has some cleanup to do before going with its official release. Hopefully the wide release of the beta will provide them adequate feedback to get a good initial release to the streets this summer...or whenever it comes. I'd rather see them get it right, than on time.

[turbojet]

bassnut: with latest ffdshow tryouts from today installed go to video decoder settings, codec page, for MPEG2 set libavcodec. If it still doesn't work can you upload 00060.m2ts to a site like mediafire and share the download link.

leChameleon: your welcome I just remembered Atak_Snapjera's post which I think will be widely used info in the future.

GaPony: in my hour or so with windows 7 I was able to make WMP12 crash 3 times, definitely some work still needs to be done. While I could probably reproduce the problem, reporting bug reports to microsoft has proven impossible to me so far and I've given up.

[iSeries]

@ Capsbackup

Before re-encoding I always use tsMuxer to mux out just the movie with the main audio track to see if it will fit on a BD-R without re-encoding - in the case of The Bourne Supremacy it came out at over 25gb and needed to be re-encoded.

I did another test last night on an episode of Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The episode is 6.5gb. I used a custom size of 5.7gb (I have already successfully re-encoded this episode previously to this exact target size). The encode came out undersized at 4.6gb. I just can't understand why this has suddenly started happening.

[bassnut]

Well just as I read your post turbojet I looked over on the other computer as Alien Vs Predator completed. Quicker Encode For Extras ........ worked, it's burning now, not sure why though. I will download the new FFDshow later when I get home from work at 1X burn it won't be done before I leave and update everything then and see if it all worked.

When I read Pan07's comments it reminded me of the 3 coasters I had when I first burnt this movie ....... didn't take me long to go out and buy a few BD RE's for testing first after that. Up here the olny option is the big box stores for media and there, BD R's are $9 per pop. Unless they are on sale as they are now ...... reminds me I gotta go to best buy tonight.

I can order online but duty here kills the savings though Tiger Direct has Optical Quantum disks at $148 / 25. Anyone evere heard of them? They are supposed to tag out as Ritek which is what I am using now but they don't have samples to buy and a no return policy which amkes me hesitant.

Thanks for your help.

[Furiousflea]

Originally Posted by bassnut

Well just as I read your post turbojet I looked over on the other computer as Alien Vs Predator completed. Quicker Encode For Extras ........ worked, it's burning now, not sure why though. I will download the new FFDshow later when I get home from work at 1X burn it won't be done before I leave and update everything then and see if it all worked.

When I read Pan07's comments it reminded me of the 3 coasters I had when I first burnt this movie ....... didn't take me long to go out and buy a few BD RE's for testing first after that. Up here the olny option is the big box stores for media and there, BD R's are $9 per pop. Unless they are on sale as they are now ...... reminds me I gotta go to best buy tonight.

I can order online but duty here kills the savings though Tiger Direct has Optical Quantum disks at $148 / 25. Anyone evere heard of them? They are supposed to tag out as Ritek which is what I am using now but they don't have samples to buy and a no return policy which amkes me hesitant.

Thanks for your help.

I've burnt around a 1000 BD-R discs mostly at friends houses until recently and never had a problem with any brand other than the odd 1\20 coaster which is to be expected. (burning at 4x)

Personally I don't believe you can go wrong with ANY brand at the moment because the price point hasn't reached such a low level that manufacturers are cutting corners in quality as well as there only being about 3? manufactuers Matsushita\Ritek...who else?

Maybe the problem lies somewhere else, like where you're storing them\sunlight\?...

[GaPony]

I've had about the same experience with BD-R media. I've only burned about 200 BD-R 25 discs, of various brands, and have yet to get a coaster. I'd just look for the best price, as they all seem to be pretty good.

[Nkotok]

Originally Posted by iSeries

@ Capsbackup

Before re-encoding I always use tsMuxer to mux out just the movie with the main audio track to see if it will fit on a BD-R without re-encoding - in the case of The Bourne Supremacy it came out at over 25gb and needed to be re-encoded.

I did another test last night on an episode of Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles. The episode is 6.5gb. I used a custom size of 5.7gb (I have already successfully re-encoded this episode previously to this exact target size). The encode came out undersized at 4.6gb. I just can't understand why this has suddenly started happening.

I do the same thing as you do. And I have written about this problem here. BD RB has always been inconsistent with output size. I never get the same size. Most of the time it is undersized (I get around 94% of BD25 space) and one time the output size was too big to fit on a BD25! So I guess you were juts lucky for some time to get your reencodes' sizes right. Now welcome to reality.