smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer - Page 191

BZeeme · 26th October 2009, 09:46

Roman (or other)

Has development of tsMuxeR stopped?

No current info at smlabs.net. I seldom use it as stand-alone but other programs I use frequently do use it. I'm considering a donation but don't want to put money on it if it is a dead project.

73ChargerFan · 27th October 2009, 23:48

It's not dead, it is freeware developed by a commercial company. About once a year, they revisit it and update or add features as required. It is very useful & stable as is.

jj666 · 28th October 2009, 21:02

Yes, I'm sure only about 3 people donated also, which probably doesn't help development.

-jj-

BZeeme · 29th October 2009, 10:12

That's a shame as tsMuxeR is a critical component of many front-end tools doing BD manipulation.

G_M_C · 29th October 2009, 11:38

They could also choose to open up the source, to an more Open Source like license format. That's not unusual, even MS does it now and again.

It saves them the trouble of developing it further, and gives them a better developed product in return. They can then use that better tsMuxeR with their own producs, like they do now (it's a part of a suite as i understand).

They might save spending bandwidth, as we can expect the Open Source version to "pop up" in sorceforge or such

So it seems you can make this change benificial for all parties, making that there are several arguments in favour of such a change

73ChargerFan · 29th October 2009, 12:14

G_M_C

Except there is no other tool as functional as this one. IMO, it has a high value to them as a closed source product, that can be sold to a larger company later if they have a cash crisis. But, never say never.

Could you convince madshi about the benefits of open source?

G_M_C · 29th October 2009, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73ChargerFan

G_M_C

Except there is no other tool as functional as this one. IMO, it has a high value to them as a closed source product, that can be sold to a larger company later if they have a cash crisis. But, never say never.

You said the crucial thing yourself; "Except there is no other tool as functional as this one".

If that is the case, why havent they capitalized on it already ?

Pl4yit · 30th October 2009, 14:04

Just wanted to mention a problem that I have come across when feeding tsMuxeR with a PAL mpeg2 file and a SRT subtitle file.

Although the command line parameters indicate to render the subtitles for a video size of 720x576 (PAL), the rendered subtitle stream is in 720x480 (see tsMuxeR log here below copied from the GUI). The result is that the subtitles are not visible during playback.

Command Line:

Code:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --avchd --vbr --vbv-len=500
V_MPEG-2, "D:\video.mpeg2", fps=25
A_AC3, "D:\audio.ac3", lang=eng
S_TEXT/UTF8, "D:\English.srt",font-name="Arial",font-size=28,font-color=0x00ffffff,
bottom-offset=24,font-border=2,text-align=center,video-width=720,video-height=576,fps=25, lang=eng

Log copied from GUI:

Code:

SmartLabs tsMuxeR.  Version 1.10.6  http://www.smlabs.net
MPEG-2 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=25
Decoding MPEG2 stream (track 1): Profile: Main@8. Resolution: 720:576p. Frame rate: 25
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 3):  Resolution: 720:480  Frame rate: 25
Processed 62820 video frames
Creation of AVCHD playlist
Creation of AVCHD stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 5 sec

deank · 30th October 2009, 14:08

This bug was reported few months ago. That was one of the reasons to add advanced processing of subtitles in multiAVCHD to overcome certain bugs in tsMuxeR.

Pl4yit · 30th October 2009, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by deank

This bug was reported few months ago. That was one of the reasons to add advanced processing of subtitles in multiAVCHD to overcome certain bugs in tsMuxeR.

OK.
Thanks, Dean.

deank · 30th October 2009, 14:29

Another option is to prepare your subtitles first and then use tsMuxeR. You can convert your SRT to SUP/PGS with easySUP and then tsMuxeR will mux them just fine and they will be visible.

Pl4yit · 31st October 2009, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by deank

Another option is to prepare your subtitles first and then use tsMuxeR. You can convert your SRT to SUP/PGS with easySUP and then tsMuxeR will mux them just fine and they will be visible.

Great. I will have a look at EasySUP. Thanks for the info.

Ryu77 · 1st November 2009, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73ChargerFan

It's not dead, it is freeware developed by a commercial company. About once a year, they revisit it and update or add features as required. It is very useful & stable as is.

Once a year? The first release was in Jan 2008 and there have been close to 20 revisions since then (I could be wrong here as that was just a guess from the top of my head).

I think the reason why there was a delay of a few months for the most recent release is that tsMuxeR (as you said) has got to quite a stable point now. There might be a few little bugs still, but I haven't come across any.

73ChargerFan · 1st November 2009, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryu77

Once a year? The first release was in Jan 2008 and there have been close to 20 revisions since then

Yeah, 8 at the beginning, then none for almost a year, then 12 more. I'm happy though.

Boulder · 2nd November 2009, 18:59

I'm trying to mux a 5.1-channel AAC track with a video file, but tsMuxerR GUI doesn't recognize the file

The audio file is created out of a regular dts file using eac3to. Is there anything to check before I start looking for a different transport stream muxer?

deank · 2nd November 2009, 19:21

No, just convert your DTS to AC3 5.1 (not to AAC). AAC is not supported in Blu-ray/AVCHD anyway.

Boulder · 2nd November 2009, 19:25

I'd like to use the transport stream in my Popcorn Hour A-110, which decodes TS in hardware. Thus no need for Blu-ray compatibility

deank · 2nd November 2009, 19:27

Okay, but still you decided to reencode audio from DTS to AAC. If you want to use tsMuxeR, reencode it to AC3 instead and it will be okay.

Beastie Boy · 3rd November 2009, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boulder

I'm trying to mux a 5.1-channel AAC track with a video file, but tsMuxerR GUI doesn't recognize the file

The audio file is created out of a regular dts file using eac3to. Is there anything to check before I start looking for a different transport stream muxer?

tsMuxeR will accept AAC audio, but it must be a raw file, not in a container. MP4 or m4a files won't work. I tried this some time ago and used YAMB with mp4Box to demux the .aac stream from the container.
I did find that I had errors if the bitrate was too high, ie quailty greater than .90 or something with the Nero encoder.

Hope this helps. Cheers, Beastie.

Boulder · 3rd November 2009, 11:07

Thanks, that info will help me a lot

26th October 2009, 09:46	#3801 \| Link
BZeeme Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 81	tsMuxeR Status Roman (or other) Has development of tsMuxeR stopped? No current info at smlabs.net. I seldom use it as stand-alone but other programs I use frequently do use it. I'm considering a donation but don't want to put money on it if it is a dead project.

30th October 2009, 14:08	#3809 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	This bug was reported few months ago. That was one of the reasons to add advanced processing of subtitles in multiAVCHD to overcome certain bugs in tsMuxeR. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

30th October 2009, 14:29	#3811 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	Another option is to prepare your subtitles first and then use tsMuxeR. You can convert your SRT to SUP/PGS with easySUP and then tsMuxeR will mux them just fine and they will be visible. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

2nd November 2009, 18:59	#3815 \| Link
Boulder Pig on the wing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 5,733	I'm trying to mux a 5.1-channel AAC track with a video file, but tsMuxerR GUI doesn't recognize the file The audio file is created out of a regular dts file using eac3to. Is there anything to check before I start looking for a different transport stream muxer? __________________ And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon...

2nd November 2009, 19:21	#3816 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	No, just convert your DTS to AC3 5.1 (not to AAC). AAC is not supported in Blu-ray/AVCHD anyway. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

27th October 2009, 23:48	#3802 \| Link
73ChargerFan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 523	It's not dead, it is freeware developed by a commercial company. About once a year, they revisit it and update or add features as required. It is very useful & stable as is.

28th October 2009, 21:02	#3803 \| Link
jj666 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 153	Yes, I'm sure only about 3 people donated also, which probably doesn't help development. -jj-

29th October 2009, 10:12	#3804 \| Link
BZeeme Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 81	That's a shame as tsMuxeR is a critical component of many front-end tools doing BD manipulation.

29th October 2009, 11:38	#3805 \| Link
G_M_C Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,076	They could also choose to open up the source, to an more Open Source like license format. That's not unusual, even MS does it now and again. It saves them the trouble of developing it further, and gives them a better developed product in return. They can then use that better tsMuxeR with their own producs, like they do now (it's a part of a suite as i understand). They might save spending bandwidth, as we can expect the Open Source version to "pop up" in sorceforge or such So it seems you can make this change benificial for all parties, making that there are several arguments in favour of such a change

29th October 2009, 12:14	#3806 \| Link
73ChargerFan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 523	G_M_C Except there is no other tool as functional as this one. IMO, it has a high value to them as a closed source product, that can be sold to a larger company later if they have a cash crisis. But, never say never. Could you convince madshi about the benefits of open source?

2nd November 2009, 19:25	#3817 \| Link
Boulder Pig on the wing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 5,733	I'd like to use the transport stream in my Popcorn Hour A-110, which decodes TS in hardware. Thus no need for Blu-ray compatibility __________________ And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon...

2nd November 2009, 19:27	#3818 \| Link
deank Programmer (or just 教务长) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Valencia, Spain Posts: 4,251	Okay, but still you decided to reencode audio from DTS to AAC. If you want to use tsMuxeR, reencode it to AC3 instead and it will be okay. __________________ multiAVCHD - donate \| popBD \| uncropMKV \| mkv2avi \| easySUP

3rd November 2009, 11:07	#3820 \| Link
Boulder Pig on the wing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 5,733	Thanks, that info will help me a lot __________________ And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon...