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Old 1st May 2011, 16:23   #11881  |  Link
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I ran into some problems with subtitles streams.
The extracted files seemed OK, but when everything was done, when playing the file, many lines were missing, then they came back normally (not easy when the audio is Japanese).
Tried the file in BDSup2Sub, only 45 lines were found instead of 343.

Tried to extract the same sup file with MeGui (HD Streams extractor), and the sup file was valid with BDSup2Sub.

I don't know if this will work, but I tried switching the sup file with the one I got, but it's not cool to stay by your comp to switch files before the remux.
Is there a way to solve this problem ? Thanks.
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Old 1st May 2011, 17:18   #11882  |  Link
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@Kane;
If you kept the Workfiles folder, then just rename the subtitle stream you want, or demuxed outside of BD-RB, that you believe is good, to the exact name of the one you want to replace, and replace it. Then as long as you have all the settings EXACTLY the same as your original backup, BD-RB will rebuild it again with this newly renamed subtitle stream instead of the original one it demuxed.
But more important for jdobbs is the title and region of this original Blu-ray so he can determine the problem and correct it!
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Old 1st May 2011, 17:32   #11883  |  Link
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Oh, good to know. I thought it would re-encode it again. Yay for time saving.

BTW, the blurays are Clannad After Story, Japanese versions (the problem occurs on almost every bluray).

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Old 1st May 2011, 17:37   #11884  |  Link
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Oh, good to know. I thought it would re-encode it again. Yay for time saving.

BTW, the blurays are Clannad & Clannad After Story, Japanese versions (the problem occurs on every bluray).
Are there any error entries in the logs? By "every blu-ray" are you saying this happens with other discs as well?

Is it happening on Blu-Ray-to-DVD transfers or blu-ray backups?

Was there any resizing involved?

Was this an original commercial disc?
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Old 1st May 2011, 17:42   #11885  |  Link
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Nope, no error at all (same for every m2ts)
Code:
 - [16:52:11] Reencoding: VID_00001 (4 of 8)
 - [16:52:11] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 34.800 frames
   - Bitrate: 19.555 Kbs
 - [16:52:11] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
 - [17:27:46] Video Encode complete
 - [17:27:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [17:27:48] Multiplexing M2TS
And yes, it happens on other discs. I can't say for Clannad, I don't remember (but at least 1 disc out of 5 for sure), but for After Story, I tried 3 discs, and at least 1 m2ts had a subtitle problem.

It's a BD-25 backup, no resize, no audio re-encoding, and it's iso from commercial discs (~40 GB each)
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Old 1st May 2011, 18:13   #11886  |  Link
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Nope, no error at all (same for every m2ts)
Code:
 - [16:52:11] Reencoding: VID_00001 (4 of 8)
 - [16:52:11] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 34.800 frames
   - Bitrate: 19.555 Kbs
 - [16:52:11] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
 - [17:27:46] Video Encode complete
 - [17:27:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [17:27:48] Multiplexing M2TS
And yes, it happens on other discs. I can't say for Clannad, I don't remember (but at least 1 disc out of 5 for sure), but for After Story, I tried 3 discs, and at least 1 m2ts had a subtitle problem.

It's a BD-25 backup, no resize, no audio re-encoding, and it's iso from commercial discs (~40 GB each)
Hmm... if you're not resizing, it has to be a TSMUXER problem during demuxing.

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Has anyone else experienced this?
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Old 1st May 2011, 19:53   #11887  |  Link
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Hmm... if you're not resizing, it has to be a TSMUXER problem during demuxing.

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Has anyone else experienced this?
Though I do not usually use the subtitles, on occasion I use them when it is hard to hear or understand an actor / actress accent. On these, BD5/9 and BD-25 discs they always work perfectly. I have never experienced only some subtitles missing or not displayed. I am region A though, so maybe other regions / languages experience this.
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Old 1st May 2011, 20:05   #11888  |  Link
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Well, I think Japan is also Region A (even if those discs are region free).
And my problem only happens on English subs, Japanese were fine (even if I didn't keep them).

@jdobbs, I also think it's a Tsmuxer problem, as extracting them with eac3to work flawlessly.
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....I suspect the math allocating bitrates to the video streams was done prior to subtracting the room saved by dropping the (unusually large) extraneous content in the original rip.
You may already be aware of this jdobbs, but I've confirmed that 0.37.08 is still allocating space for ripped content outside the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders, even when the option is set to exclude this material in the rebuild.
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You may already be aware of this jdobbs, but I've confirmed that 0.37.08 is still allocating space for ripped content outside the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders, even when the option is set to exclude this material in the rebuild.
Is the additional material in the root folder, or in another folder? I just looked at the code, and it appears I'm not excluding information in the root (I'll fix that) but other folders are excluded.
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[HTML][/HTML]I have just experienced my first error in years! Same as reported by another reporter, rccland, and on the exact same movie, Die Another Day. I was remaking this BD-25 full movie backup, which I had done successfully a long time ago, but after checking my backup I discovered my Ritek BR2-00 media / disc was no longer good.
Was this error resolved for the next release? If not and you have this disc, give it a run and see what you find.
[HTML]-----------------------
[21:18:12] BD Rebuilder v0.37.08 (beta)
- Source: DIE_ANOTHER_DAY
- Input BD size: 36.90 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:35:31.163]
- Target BD size: 23.29 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- SHUTDOWN at completion enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:18:12] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [21:18:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00028]
- [21:19:06] Reencoding: VID_00028 (1 of 56)
- [21:19:06] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 92,908 frames
- Bitrate: 3,308 Kbs
- [21:19:06] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:27:23] Reencoding: VID_00028, Pass 2 of 2
- [21:46:50] Video Encode complete
- [21:46:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [21:46:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [21:47:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00029]
- [21:48:02] Reencoding: VID_00029 (2 of 56)
- [21:48:02] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 42,408 frames
- Bitrate: 3,314 Kbs
- [21:48:02] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 1 of 2
- [21:51:45] Reencoding: VID_00029, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:00:37] Video Encode complete
- [22:00:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:00:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:00:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00030]
- [22:01:09] Reencoding: VID_00030 (3 of 56)
- [22:01:09] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 40,730 frames
- Bitrate: 3,369 Kbs
- [22:01:10] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:04:38] Reencoding: VID_00030, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:12:55] Video Encode complete
- [22:12:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:12:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:13:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00031]
- [22:13:08] Reencoding: VID_00031 (4 of 56)
- [22:13:08] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 6,354 frames
- Bitrate: 3,306 Kbs
- [22:13:08] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:13:43] Reencoding: VID_00031, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:14:59] Video Encode complete
- [22:14:59] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:14:59] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:15:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00032]
- [22:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00032 (5 of 56)
- [22:15:14] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
- Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 24,934 frames
- Bitrate: 3,309 Kbs
- [22:15:14] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:17:42] Reencoding: VID_00032, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:23:44] Video Encode complete
- [22:23:44] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:23:44] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:23:49] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00034]
- [22:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00034 (6 of 56)
- [22:23:55] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,824 frames
- Bitrate: 11,968 Kbs
- [22:23:55] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:26:10] Reencoding: VID_00034, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:31:53] Video Encode complete
- [22:31:53] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:31:53] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:31:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00035]
- [22:32:03] Reencoding: VID_00035 (7 of 56)
- [22:32:03] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,551 frames
- Bitrate: 10,871 Kbs
- [22:32:03] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:34:22] Reencoding: VID_00035, Pass 2 of 2
- [22:39:15] Video Encode complete
- [22:39:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [22:39:15] Multiplexing M2TS
- [22:39:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00130]
- [22:39:50] Reencoding: VID_00130 (8 of 56)
- [22:39:50] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 16,438 frames
- Bitrate: 12,412 Kbs
- [22:39:50] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 1 of 2
- [22:48:15] Reencoding: VID_00130, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:08:02] Video Encode complete
- [23:08:02] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:08:02] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:08:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00131]
- [23:08:46] Reencoding: VID_00131 (9 of 56)
- [23:08:46] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,140 frames
- Bitrate: 12,300 Kbs
- [23:08:46] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 1 of 2
- [23:09:21] Reencoding: VID_00131, Pass 2 of 2
- [23:10:46] Video Encode complete
- [23:10:46] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [23:10:46] Multiplexing M2TS
- [23:10:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00132]
- [23:10:51] Reencoding: VID_00132 (10 of 56)
- [23:10:51] Collecting video information
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- BD-Rebuilder v0.37.08 (beta)
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libmpeg2": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
[23:10:53] - Failed video encode, aborted[/HTML]

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LABEL=DIE_ANOTHER_DAY
VERSION=v0.37.08 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=39618532809
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=38822092800
TARGET_SIZE=25008537600
REDUCTION=.623668015934473
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=1
COMPLETED=9
[00028]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=1480636805
RATE=3308
NSTART=27000000
NEND=166500000
NSIZE=1453867008
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00029]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=676809879
RATE=3314
NSTART=27000000
NEND=90675360
NSIZE=664621056
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00030]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=660141479
RATE=3369
NSTART=27000000
NEND=88155360
NSIZE=648026112
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00031]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=101205932
RATE=3306
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36540000
NSIZE=98856960
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00032]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
HYBRID=0
M2TS_TARGET=397451313
RATE=3309
NSTART=27000000
NEND=64437120
NSIZE=390279168
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00034]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=336946934
RATE=11968
NSTART=27000000
NEND=36053280
NSIZE=327333888
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00035]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=283654033
RATE=10871
NSTART=27000000
NEND=35540640
NSIZE=276492288
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00130]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=1466639180
RATE=12412
NSTART=27000000
NEND=57852000
NSIZE=1425512448
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00131]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=102439777
RATE=12300
NSTART=27000000
NEND=29139360
NSIZE=98568192
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00132]
AUDIO=100111
PGS=11111
M2TS_TARGET=94626703[/HTML]

[HTML][Options]
VERSION=0.37.0.8
MODE=0
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=1
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23850
TARGET_SIZE=23750
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=I:\DIE_ANOTHER_DAY\
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rccland reported that the original 00132.M2TS wouldn't playback. Can you test it? Maybe a bad M2TS included to confuse reencoding?
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rccland reported that the original 00132.M2TS wouldn't playback. Can you test it? Maybe a bad M2TS included to confuse reencoding?
My VID_00132.avs plays back perfectly with MPC, as does the original .m2ts. It is a 47 second long clip, which is an extra as to how the film was made. It starts out looking like the real clip, and then resizes to a PiP with the director explaining the scene.

EDIT:
Just some info:
If I set MIN_M2TS_SIZE=250, this VID_00132 is removed from the to be encoded list. This is a multi-m2ts movie, with three playlists. This VID_00132 is part of only one playlist. If I check the contents of this playlist with BDInfo, it shows 2 MPEG-4, AVC, 1080P clips for the several .m2ts files of this playlist. It is the same as VID_00131, but with this additional footage of how the scene was made. There are several of these double 1080P video within one m2ts file for this movie, it's just VID_00132 came up first in the to be reencoded list, causing the failure.

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My VID_00132.avs plays back perfectly with MPC, as does the original .m2ts. It is a 47 second long clip, which is an extra as to how the film was made. It starts out looking like the real clip, and then resizes to a PiP with the director explaining the scene.

EDIT:
Just some info:
If I set MIN_M2TS_SIZE=250, this VID_00132 is removed from the to be encoded list. This is a multi-m2ts movie, with three playlists. This VID_00132 is part of only one playlist. If I check the contents of this playlist with BDInfo, it shows 2 MPEG-4, AVC, 1080P clips for the several .m2ts files of this playlist. It is the same as VID_00131, but with this additional footage of how the scene was made. There are several of these double 1080P video within one m2ts file for this movie, it's just VID_00132 came up first in the to be reencoded list, causing the failure.
I'll pick up a copy of that film and runs some tests.
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I'll pick up a copy of that film and runs some tests.
Sorry to do that to you, but your library must be impressive!
Is there any info: playlists, clpi, etc... that I could provide that might help?
The 00132.m2ts file is 144 MB. If I zip and upload the playlist and clpi, would this be of help?
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Sorry to do that to you, but your library must be impressive!
Is there any info: playlists, clpi, etc... that I could provide that might help?
The 00132.m2ts file is 144 MB. If I zip and upload the playlist and clpi, would this be of help?
The library is getting impressive -- but the wallet... well, not so.
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The library is getting impressive -- but the wallet... well, not so.
I can understand!
If the files mentioned above could help, and possibly avoid your purchasing this one, I would be happy to send them.

Just for testing, I have added MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800, which is greater than the largest .m2ts file of this playlist, and now none of these offending m2ts files are on the reencode list.
BD-RB is running now, and I will let it continue and update the results.

More info:
Interestingly, the total reencode time is identical with and without MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800. ( 04:35:31.163 ) The additional files in the first failed run, of which VID_00132 is the first of 16 files, are NOT included in the second test with MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800.

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I can understand!
If the files mentioned above could help, and possibly avoid your purchasing this one, I would be happy to send them.

Just for testing, I have added MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800, which is greater than the largest .m2ts file of this playlist, and now none of these offending m2ts files are on the reencode list.
BD-RB is running now, and I will let it continue and update the results.

More info:
Interestingly, the total reencode time is identical with and without MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800. ( 04:35:31.163 ) The additional files in the first failed run, of which VID_00132 is the first of 16 files, are NOT included in the second test with MIN_M2TS_SIZE=800.
I want to avoid any impression of rules violation or copyright infringement, so I'd rather not exchange any files. I'll pick up the disc in the next couple of days.
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Is the additional material in the root folder, or in another folder? I just looked at the code, and it appears I'm not excluding information in the root (I'll fix that) but other folders are excluded.
It looks like it's still not properly excluding content in top-level directories alongside BDMV & CERTIFICATE.

Here's how I determined this: I started a backup to BD25 of The Thirteenth Floor, saw that it was proceeding as normal after a minute or so, and aborted. I created a subfolder in the root of the rip, alongside BDMV and CERTIFICATE, labled "PS3 UPDATE" and just dumped a ~20GB file into it. I restarted BD-RB, pointed it to a different directory for another rip, then back to The Thirteenth Floor rip directory to make sure it rescanned it, and started the backup: it failed quickly, reporting that there wasn't enough room.
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Originally Posted by A.Fenderson View Post
It looks like it's still not properly excluding content in top-level directories alongside BDMV & CERTIFICATE.

Here's how I determined this: I started a backup to BD25 of The Thirteenth Floor, saw that it was proceeding as normal after a minute or so, and aborted. I created a subfolder in the root of the rip, alongside BDMV and CERTIFICATE, labled "PS3 UPDATE" and just dumped a ~20GB file into it. I restarted BD-RB, pointed it to a different directory for another rip, then back to The Thirteenth Floor rip directory to make sure it rescanned it, and started the backup: it failed quickly, reporting that there wasn't enough room.
That's what I meant by:
Quote:
...it appears I'm not excluding information in the root...
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