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27th February 2014, 13:01 | #23921 | Link |
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just a quick heads up - after updating from Catalyst 13.12 to 14.2 Beta 1.3 NNEDI scaling is working now. It really was "falling back" to Jinc chroma upsampling before - for whatever reason. All is good now Last edited by TheLion; 27th February 2014 at 13:04. |
27th February 2014, 14:48 | #23922 | Link |
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I agree with others that ED2 (ED11) dynamic is great. So, ED2>ED1>OD>RD, all with (opposite)color + dynamic. Tested in 3/4 bit this time since in 8 bit it's too hard to tell apart. Really happy that I can drive 720p24 content with Jinc3+AR chroma/luma, low debanding, ED2+col+dyn, no trade quality, with just a A10-5800k. Hope to get a 270X soon and see if I can push some NNEDI bliss. Great work madshi!
That looks interesting. Last edited by *Touche*; 27th February 2014 at 14:59. |
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Oops! Nevermind me then.
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27th February 2014, 15:24 | #23925 | Link |
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I will test the 270x this weekend against 770. Game wise the 280x has comparable performance to 770. However I suspect to see surprises with 270x due to its higher OpenCL performance. So it's going to be even more interesting.
Meanwhile feel free to make your own speculations. By the way, for 770 I had to use 327.23 (and even with that I got green screens if deinterlacing was running), for AMD What's the most stable driver to use? 14.2 Beta 1.3 as someone mentioned earlier? Last edited by seiyafan; 27th February 2014 at 15:28. |
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I'm hoping to get another Kaveri system soon that I can spend some time with to see how far it will go with madVR.
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27th February 2014, 16:01 | #23927 | Link | |
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But somehow also setting default debanding strength from low to high (same level like strength during fade in/outs) solves frame drops. Isn't this very odd? The drops occur btw. during fade in/outs. |
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27th February 2014, 16:31 | #23928 | Link |
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Just ran a few more tests:
-colorful noise still looks uneasy to watch -dynamic is still very obvious -A4's EE is annoying to look at on sharp & clear 1080p but it works wonderfully on blurry/noisy/low-bitrate videos, sharpening up without white halos, very cool stuff -ED11 is unforgiving, making it dynamic makes pristine 30fps 1080p look veiled as the noise is dancing around on top of the video but when going 64x NNEDI 24p 720p@1080p the dynamic noise dance still adds a noise veil but the latter is also injecting some much required "fake" grain and it wouldn't appear to be much of an issue from a distance...anyway don't shoot the messenger. -my Sammy TV's anti-glare layers are quite thick(even my cat's claws couldn't rip it ) but it comes with a semi-glossy finish so it's also veiling the picture anyway. OTOH glossy panels are unmanageable IME(the DELL S2440L that I briefly owned comes to mind) so it's all about compromises. I'd love a filename tag for dithering at some point if that's not too OCD'ed ^^ Last edited by leeperry; 27th February 2014 at 22:13. |
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Oh, great, I'll get to see what's possible in advance Last edited by *Touche*; 27th February 2014 at 16:40. |
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27th February 2014, 17:12 | #23930 | Link |
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[QUOTE=*Touche*;1670882]In 8 bit or lower?
I settled on 5bit with my projector ED11 OCD can see a difference on a large screen. Nice work madshi. And leepery Oblivion was great last night. Had to watch that movie one more time and never looked better. |
27th February 2014, 17:15 | #23931 | Link |
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Using ED2 with both options ticked and I'm completely sold I didn't like previous opposite colour dynamic - testbuild, but I just can't see the extra "energy" anymore, even if I kinda wanted to like OD more. Remarkable work madshi.
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I got the i1 Display Pro, I will gladly help (choose dynamic vs static). What to look for? Quote:
I really like the OD32 option too (better than ED option 1 [AD4]), and glad that its the default for madTPG. I really hope there will be NO cut back on the available options even though madshi already stated that there will be. Quote:
But I wonder why not go 8-bit if the projector/display can do 8-bit? Is there a substantial performance gain in 5-bit?
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Not yet. So far I've only been doing some quick 8bit tests to see if I was bothered by the noise energy of ED11 mono dynamic, like I was with A4 dynamic. This is definitely still the case with A4. I take notice of the dynamic dither rather quickly in 8bit, which is an instant fail. I tested this to re-confirm I still prefer A4 as mono static. ED11 mono dynamic is rather interesting. Unlike A4, I so far do not seem to be instantly taking notice of the dynamic movement. If I notice it at all, would still require more testing. Which leaves me with needing to do a comparison of A4 mono static against ED11 mono dynamic which I've yet to do. Quote:
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You were one of the last people that still liked AD4. You may even be the last person give the word before madshi kills it. Please take this comment lightly (not seriously)... So you think Static will be better for madTPG?
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I did a few "Report Uncalibrated" intermittent runs: Static, Dynamic, Static, Dy...etc..
I (the meter) see no difference at all. EDIT: Note that MadTPG is only 8-bit, (read my next post). Code:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on uncalibrated display device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command line: dispcal.exe -v2 -dmadvr -c1 -yn -Ibw -R Setting up the instrument Product Name: i1Display3 Serial Number: I1-13.A-02 Firmware Version: v1.03 Firmware Date: 05Jun12 Created MadVR window Place instrument on test window. Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: Measured display update delay of 37 msec, using delay of 155 msec Patch 3 of 3 Measuring VideoLUT table entry precision. Patch 9 of 9 Patch 9 of 9 Patch 12 of 12 Patch 12 of 12 Uncalibrated response: Black level = 0.0548 cd/m^2 50% level = 32.96 cd/m^2 White level = 141.75 cd/m^2 Aprox. gamma = 2.10 Contrast ratio = 2586:1 White chromaticity coordinates 0.3272, 0.3553 White Correlated Color Temperature = 5716K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 5716K, DE 2K to locus = 8.2 White Visual Color Temperature = 5395K, DE 2K to locus = 11.0 White Visual Daylight Temperature = 5505K, DE 2K to locus = 8.0 Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 11 bits Black drift was 0.003581 DE White drift was 0.066035 DE The instrument can be removed from the screen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on uncalibrated display device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command line: dispcal.exe -v2 -dmadvr -c1 -yn -Ibw -R Setting up the instrument Product Name: i1Display3 Serial Number: I1-13.A-02 Firmware Version: v1.03 Firmware Date: 05Jun12 Created MadVR window Place instrument on test window. Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: Measured display update delay of 37 msec, using delay of 155 msec Patch 3 of 3 Measuring VideoLUT table entry precision. Patch 9 of 9 Patch 9 of 9 Patch 12 of 12 Patch 12 of 12 Uncalibrated response: Black level = 0.0548 cd/m^2 50% level = 32.96 cd/m^2 White level = 141.49 cd/m^2 Aprox. gamma = 2.10 Contrast ratio = 2581:1 White chromaticity coordinates 0.3272, 0.3553 White Correlated Color Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 8.2 White Visual Color Temperature = 5396K, DE 2K to locus = 11.0 White Visual Daylight Temperature = 5506K, DE 2K to locus = 8.0 Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 11 bits Black drift was 0.001626 DE White drift was 0.000000 DE The instrument can be removed from the screen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on uncalibrated display device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command line: dispcal.exe -v2 -dmadvr -c1 -yn -Ibw -R Setting up the instrument Product Name: i1Display3 Serial Number: I1-13.A-02 Firmware Version: v1.03 Firmware Date: 05Jun12 Created MadVR window Place instrument on test window. Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: Measured display update delay of 36 msec, using delay of 154 msec Patch 3 of 3 Measuring VideoLUT table entry precision. Patch 9 of 9 Patch 9 of 9 Patch 12 of 12 Uncalibrated response: Black level = 0.0548 cd/m^2 50% level = 32.96 cd/m^2 White level = 141.57 cd/m^2 Aprox. gamma = 2.10 Contrast ratio = 2585:1 White chromaticity coordinates 0.3272, 0.3554 White Correlated Color Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 8.3 White Visual Color Temperature = 5395K, DE 2K to locus = 11.1 White Visual Daylight Temperature = 5505K, DE 2K to locus = 8.0 Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 12 bits Black drift was 0.002041 DE White drift was 0.000000 DE The instrument can be removed from the screen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on uncalibrated display device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command line: dispcal.exe -v2 -dmadvr -c1 -yn -Ibw -R Setting up the instrument Product Name: i1Display3 Serial Number: I1-13.A-02 Firmware Version: v1.03 Firmware Date: 05Jun12 Created MadVR window Place instrument on test window. Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: Measured display update delay of 36 msec, using delay of 154 msec Patch 3 of 3 Measuring VideoLUT table entry precision. Patch 9 of 9 Patch 9 of 9 Patch 12 of 12 Patch 12 of 12 Uncalibrated response: Black level = 0.0547 cd/m^2 50% level = 32.96 cd/m^2 White level = 141.49 cd/m^2 Aprox. gamma = 2.10 Contrast ratio = 2584:1 White chromaticity coordinates 0.3272, 0.3553 White Correlated Color Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 8.2 White Visual Color Temperature = 5396K, DE 2K to locus = 11.0 White Visual Daylight Temperature = 5506K, DE 2K to locus = 8.0 Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 10 bits Black drift was 0.000955 DE White drift was 0.058878 DE The instrument can be removed from the screen. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Report on uncalibrated display device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Command line: dispcal.exe -v2 -dmadvr -c1 -yn -Ibw -R Setting up the instrument Product Name: i1Display3 Serial Number: I1-13.A-02 Firmware Version: v1.03 Firmware Date: 05Jun12 Created MadVR window Place instrument on test window. Hit Esc or Q to give up, any other key to continue: Measured display update delay of 36 msec, using delay of 154 msec Patch 3 of 3 Measuring VideoLUT table entry precision. Patch 9 of 9 Patch 9 of 9 Patch 12 of 12 Patch 12 of 12 Uncalibrated response: Black level = 0.0547 cd/m^2 50% level = 32.89 cd/m^2 White level = 141.49 cd/m^2 Aprox. gamma = 2.11 Contrast ratio = 2585:1 White chromaticity coordinates 0.3272, 0.3553 White Correlated Color Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 11.4 White Correlated Daylight Temperature = 5717K, DE 2K to locus = 8.2 White Visual Color Temperature = 5396K, DE 2K to locus = 11.0 White Visual Daylight Temperature = 5506K, DE 2K to locus = 8.0 Effective LUT entry depth seems to be 10 bits Black drift was 0.000427 DE White drift was 0.076807 DE The instrument can be removed from the screen. Quote:
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direct compute, dithering, error diffusion, madvr, ngu, nnedi3, quality, renderer, scaling, uhd upscaling, upsampling |
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