Vapoursynth - Page 157

LigH · 27th July 2018, 07:22

I don't have much experience with editing vector graphics. But the original ingredients used to be just that...

LigH · 27th July 2018, 15:16

another ICO

kolak · 27th July 2018, 17:48

Looks over-done/complicated for an icon

poisondeathray · 27th July 2018, 18:23

I looks better IMO, but personally , I would go even more transparent for the film. Yellow python dude is not getting exposure

Also the original yellow logo path (I saw this on google images too) , seems to have a problem - the (viewer) right edge of is missing some points or flattened compared to the blue python's rounded border

poisondeathray · 28th July 2018, 00:39

Why is 32x32 required to be supported ? Looking at the wikipedia link, XP supports 48x48. And it seems like XP support is getting phased out everywhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_(file_format)

lansing · 28th July 2018, 01:55

More modification:

videoh · 28th July 2018, 03:04

I think this whole concept looks stupid. Vapoursynth deserves much better. IMHO.

Myrsloik · 28th July 2018, 15:33

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Originally Posted by lansing

More modification:

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poisondeathray · 28th July 2018, 17:47

I think the original python logo and colors (blue/yellow) should be retained, at least in a way that makes it still recognizable - that helps with identification and association with the "python" the programming language

a rough idea - maybe the "film" can be fed through the logo, as if you feed film through a projector ? maybe something like this ?

(256x256 animated gif demo)

at 48x48 you can still see sprocket holes and python "eyes" , so they should still be visible as a 48x48 static ico. But 32x32 would require modifications and reframing - I'm still not sure why 32x32 is required to be supported ?

what characteristics or ideas makes it "vapoursynth" ? I understand python is important aspect, and I see "vaporware" as a tag below, but we know it's real and works

, but what other things or ideas do you want in a logo ?

ChaosKing · 28th July 2018, 19:06

idk why but I immediately thought of this: uuuh yeahhhh, nice infinite ass wipe xD
Maybe it's just my dirty mind

TheFluff · 29th July 2018, 00:08

well, ffms has a toilet paper roll for its logo so the shoe fits

Sparktank · 29th July 2018, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisondeathray

I would start using VS if it had a logo like this.

If this was going to be a movie studio logo before the picture, I can see this turning around to project on the silverscreen: "aVAPOURSYNTHproject"

HuBandiT · 29th July 2018, 00:38

(apologies for concepts only and no artwork)

concept #1: the python dudes (as image content) within one very visible film frame

concept #2: python dudes in reduced size in lower right corner of icon (as customary when an icon references a technology employed), with blue python dude's eye shining white (read: consider making "white" darker in other areas of the icon) as it is projecting (with some kind of visible light rays) an image onto one frame a film strip which occupies the main area of the icon; if enough space available, show three (or 0.5 + 1 + 0.5) frames of the film strip, top frame already has a fully formed image, middle frame (where blue dude is projecting with his eye) is forming, bottom frame blank (awaiting to be imaged)

foxyshadis · 29th July 2018, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisondeathray

(256x256 animated gif demo)

This is the first thing that ever made me wish Windows supported animated file icons.

LigH · 29th July 2018, 14:14

There is indeed an ANI file format. But hardly compressed, only a stack of DIBs, I believe. It was mainly intended for animated mouse cursors.

poisondeathray · 30th July 2018, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuBandiT

concept #2: python dudes in reduced size in lower right corner of icon (as customary when an icon references a technology employed), with blue python dude's eye shining white (read: consider making "white" darker in other areas of the icon) as it is projecting (with some kind of visible light rays) an image onto one frame a film strip which occupies the main area of the icon; if enough space available, show three (or 0.5 + 1 + 0.5) frames of the film strip, top frame already has a fully formed image, middle frame (where blue dude is projecting with his eye) is forming, bottom frame blank (awaiting to be imaged)

Like austin powers / dr. evil - sharks with fricken laser beams attached to their heads!

"visible light rays" can be done as volumetric lights, but it's difficult to retain as an ico or small logo. A colored light example in the video below. And I don't think you'd be able to fit all that in a small ico.

Also why only blue python with fricken laser beams? It seems yellow python gets no love

But you can have different graphics for the logo (e.g. something that you put on a webpage, or use in a video), vs the ico . But I think they should share some themes and traits. eg. Python dudes with their official colors at least. I like them better than Lord Mulder's cute green guy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparktank

If this was going to be a movie studio logo before the picture, I can see this turning around to project on the silverscreen: "aVAPOURSYNTHproject"

Maybe something like this, with the python symbol/logo as the "o" some people misspell "vapOursynth". Not suitable for an ico , but an example of how you might use a possible logo. Colored light projection/ volumetric rays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKELqibwR8A

I don't like the text. But you need something that is synonymous with "vapoursynth". I also apologize for the font, its myriad pro, but I don't know what the official "font" is. Python uses Flux Regular "core.text" uses Terminus but it's an ugly font.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosKing

idk why but I immediately thought of this: uuuh yeahhhh, nice infinite ass wipe xD
Maybe it's just my dirty mind

maybe it was that ffms2 logo's subliminal effect ? or something Freudian

gives new meaning to "clean python code"
https://s22.postimg.cc/4s2tzj6vl/clean_python_code.jpg

hajj_3 · 5th August 2018, 13:29

It would be nice if you could add support for Python 3.7

ObenS · 5th August 2018, 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by hajj_3

It would be nice if you could add support for Python 3.7

r45 will support Python 3.7

Wolfberry · 10th August 2018, 12:35

Internal functions like Binarize() Deflate()/Inflate() Median() Minimum()/Maximum() work in float in R44, but the doc still says they can only work in interger, I think this will confuse some users.

Also, MakeDiff() and MergeDiff() behave differently in float, the output is identical to "x y -" and "x y +" instead of "x y - 0.5 +" and "x y + 0.5 -" that one will normally expect.

Is this the intended behavior? I had implemented some workaround in my script due to this issue.

Myrsloik · 10th August 2018, 17:30

Makediff is kinda up for debate. The only reason it's offset in integer is to have zero in the middle. With float there are no concerns like that. Discuss!

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,782	I don't have much experience with editing vector graphics. But the original ingredients used to be just that... __________________ New German Gleitz board MediaFire: x264 \| x265 \| VPx \| AOM \| Xvid

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,782	another ICO __________________ New German Gleitz board MediaFire: x264 \| x265 \| VPx \| AOM \| Xvid

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poisondeathray Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,377	I think the original python logo and colors (blue/yellow) should be retained, at least in a way that makes it still recognizable - that helps with identification and association with the "python" the programming language a rough idea - maybe the "film" can be fed through the logo, as if you feed film through a projector ? maybe something like this ? (256x256 animated gif demo) at 48x48 you can still see sprocket holes and python "eyes" , so they should still be visible as a 48x48 static ico. But 32x32 would require modifications and reframing - I'm still not sure why 32x32 is required to be supported ? what characteristics or ideas makes it "vapoursynth" ? I understand python is important aspect, and I see "vaporware" as a tag below, but we know it's real and works , but what other things or ideas do you want in a logo ? Last edited by poisondeathray; 28th July 2018 at 18:00.

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HuBandiT Registered User Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 12	(apologies for concepts only and no artwork) concept #1: the python dudes (as image content) within one very visible film frame concept #2: python dudes in reduced size in lower right corner of icon (as customary when an icon references a technology employed), with blue python dude's eye shining white (read: consider making "white" darker in other areas of the icon) as it is projecting (with some kind of visible light rays) an image onto one frame a film strip which occupies the main area of the icon; if enough space available, show three (or 0.5 + 1 + 0.5) frames of the film strip, top frame already has a fully formed image, middle frame (where blue dude is projecting with his eye) is forming, bottom frame blank (awaiting to be imaged) Last edited by HuBandiT; 29th July 2018 at 00:47.

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kolak Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 2,843	Looks over-done/complicated for an icon

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poisondeathray Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,377	I looks better IMO, but personally , I would go even more transparent for the film. Yellow python dude is not getting exposure Also the original yellow logo path (I saw this on google images too) , seems to have a problem - the (viewer) right edge of is missing some points or flattened compared to the blue python's rounded border

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poisondeathray Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,377	Why is 32x32 required to be supported ? Looking at the wikipedia link, XP supports 48x48. And it seems like XP support is getting phased out everywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICO_(file_format)

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lansing Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,657	More modification:

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videoh Useful n00b Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,667	I think this whole concept looks stupid. Vapoursynth deserves much better. IMHO.

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TheFluff Excessively jovial fellow Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: rude Posts: 1,100	well, ffms has a toilet paper roll for its logo so the shoe fits

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LigH German doom9/Gleitz SuMo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany, rural Altmark Posts: 6,782	There is indeed an ANI file format. But hardly compressed, only a stack of DIBs, I believe. It was mainly intended for animated mouse cursors. __________________ New German Gleitz board MediaFire: x264 \| x265 \| VPx \| AOM \| Xvid

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hajj_3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,126	It would be nice if you could add support for Python 3.7

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Wolfberry Helenium(Easter) Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Hsinchu, Taiwan Posts: 99	Documentation Update Internal functions like Binarize() Deflate()/Inflate() Median() Minimum()/Maximum() work in float in R44, but the doc still says they can only work in interger, I think this will confuse some users. Also, MakeDiff() and MergeDiff() behave differently in float, the output is identical to "x y -" and "x y +" instead of "x y - 0.5 +" and "x y + 0.5 -" that one will normally expect. Is this the intended behavior? I had implemented some workaround in my script due to this issue. __________________ Monochrome Anomaly

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Myrsloik Professional Code Monkey Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kinnarps Chair Posts: 2,555	Makediff is kinda up for debate. The only reason it's offset in integer is to have zero in the middle. With float there are no concerns like that. Discuss! __________________ VapourSynth - proving that scripting languages and video processing isn't dead yet