Media Player Classic Home Cinema (MPC-HC) - DXVA! - Page 520

Mercury_22 · 6th November 2009, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

Actually it only applies to M2TS streams. For MKV I get the DTS-HD blocks correctly

Yes after more testing I can confirm that internal MPEG spitter it's stripping off the HD from DTS-HD but the internal Matroska splitter doesn't

korsan · 6th November 2009, 22:39

I have placed all subtitles (srt) in a seperate folder (subtitles).
How can I configure mpc to read the subtitles from there?
Thanks.

Keiyakusha · 6th November 2009, 22:42

MPC-HC should do that by default. Check if your subs are named correctly...

Polcius · 6th November 2009, 23:00

What's better to watch mkv's:

- Haali Splitter
or
- MPC-HC with default settings and decoders?

korsan · 6th November 2009, 23:18

Thanks Keiyakusha it worked!

Mercury_22 · 6th November 2009, 23:31

Ok I found where the DTS-HD problem has started

Quote:

Revision 984 - Directory Listing
Modified Sun Jan 25 20:01:24 2009 UTC (9 months, 1 week ago) by beliyaal

Added: Support for Blu-ray clip info (language for audio and subtitles in m2ts files)
Changed: Sort MPEC audio streams according to quality. The best quality stream will be played by default.
Fixed: Strip the non-core info from DTS-HD tracks until a decoder is available. Fixes problems with SPDIFer.
Fixed: If Blu-ray clip info is available all subtitle streams will be available from the start of the clip.

So with rev 983 no stripping off the HD from DTS-HD and with rev 985 HD blocks are stripped off from DTS-HD

@albain can you confirm this please ?

And can someone revert this please ?

test12314124 · 7th November 2009, 00:28

What is the latest status on ATI cards and DXVA? Still problems? Planning on buying HD4650 and using latest drivers.

clsid · 7th November 2009, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polcius

What's better to watch mkv's:

- Haali Splitter
or
- MPC-HC with default settings and decoders?

Both

Haali splitter + MPC-HC with default settings.

73ChargerFan · 7th November 2009, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury_22

Ok I found where the DTS-HD problem has started
So with rev 983 no stripping off the HD from DTS-HD and with rev 985 HD blocks are stripped off from DTS-HD

@albain can you confirm this please ?

And can someone revert this please ?

It needs to be an option - "Enable DTS-MA Pass-through"
otherwise, someone with a dts receiver won't get the dts core.

saint-francis · 7th November 2009, 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by test12314124

What is the latest status on ATI cards and DXVA? Still problems? Planning on buying HD4650 and using latest drivers.

What kind of problems do you mean? I have a 3870 and I've never had an issue with DXVA.

Tenki · 7th November 2009, 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Eiri

I think he's talking about the "CUDA powered upscaling" on PowerDVD 9. It's not really HD. It's just really postprocessed.

Yeah, but it really looks better.

lych_necross · 7th November 2009, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jong

It is very odd because the graph suggests the refresh rate is an exact multiple (or very close to an exact multiple) of the frame rate - there is clearly no 3:2 pulldown, as shown on your other screenshot

You are sure you are not using Reclock scripting to change the refresh rate when Reclock is being used?

Anyway, I would not worry about it too much. If both look smooth to you, both in absolute terms and relative to each other, maybe your TV is performing inverse telecine as leeperry mentions, or maybe both have 3:2 pulldown and it does not bother you, or maybe you do not notice 3:2 pulldown.

Whatever, don't look too hard you only risk spotting something that has never bothered you in the past but which will then destroy your enjoyment for several months while you struggle to fix it!

I just checked and I am not using any reclock scripting. I'll bet that somewhere there is a bug that is preventing MPC-HC from detecting refresh rates when Reclock is used. I'm not going to worry about.

Mercury_22 · 7th November 2009, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by 73ChargerFan

It needs to be an option - "Enable DTS-MA Pass-through"
otherwise, someone with a dts receiver won't get the dts core.

Agree but breaking one thing to "solve" another I don't think it's the way to go

And with the changes that AFAIU are coming ( MPC wasapi audio renderer and maybe bitstreaming ) "DTS-MA Pass-through" will be solve without breaking DTS-HD, I think.
So for this things to have a chance to be implemented we need the HD for DTS to be working with the internal mpeg splitter

EDIT
Albain has find the solution

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

...
@Mercury22

Right, this is due to this modification : in MpegSplitter.cpp, line 1449
if I replace #if 1 by #if 0 I can see DTS HD blocks again

Code:

else if (m_mt.subtype == MEDIASUBTYPE_DTS || m_mt.subtype == MEDIASUBTYPE_WAVE_DTS) // DTS HD MA data is causing trouble, lets just remove it
{
#if 0

So can any of the devs add this in the SVN ? Please !

amigenius · 7th November 2009, 13:50

Hi,

How can i get ATIs Edge enhancement to work in MPC?

I tried it with MPC - Video decoder in DXVA Mode and with coreavc in Software mode.

Tried all Renderes (custom evr, standard evr, vmr9, vmr7 and overlay)

It just doesn't work.

But if i play the same Blu-Ray in PowerDVD 7/8 ATIs Edge enhancement works.

Relevant Systemcomponents:

mpc build 1.3.1290.0 (32 bit)
catalyst 9.10
ATI 4870
Vista 64 Bit

cya

mark0077 · 7th November 2009, 14:29

Maybe you have to output in the nv12 colorspace which seems to be necessary for things like hardware deinterlacing

unfortunately alone mpc can't output in this colorspace so u will need ffdshow perhaps to do this for you. Worth a shot trying it but maybe someone else will have a better solution

hdboy · 7th November 2009, 15:49

I'm confused by the shader options. when I turn on pixel shaders, the "Toggle pixel shader" is unchecked; when I turn it off, it's checked, which seems backward. then there's also "Pixel shader disabled", which seems redundant and at any case mislabeled. It should be called "No pixel shader" since that's what happens when you select it. It's like you label power switch On and Off, you don't call it "Power turned on" "Power turned off". I know it's nit-picking but I think grammar correctness is next to godliness

What are screen space pixel shaders vs regular pixel shaders? I can't tell what it does. Toggling it on and off still shows a check next to "screen space pixel shaders disabled" and has no visible effect on the screen.

Keiyakusha · 7th November 2009, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdboy

What are screen space pixel shaders vs regular pixel shaders? I can't tell what it does.

Regular applied before resize, screen space - after.

Gleb Egorych · 7th November 2009, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gleb Egorych

Build 1312 cause problems for me too. I have stuttering, in Vista only at that.

Played H.264/AAC/MP4/29.97fps file on Vista x64/EVR-CP/optimal renderer settings/8800GT/FW191.07/ReClock. It's OK with rev1296. EVR-CP in WinXP is fine using both revisions.

Attached screenshot to demostrate the problem. Builds 1312+ are affected, screenshot is made in 1330. Last good is 1311.

amigenius · 7th November 2009, 17:05

Hi,

enforcing nv12 via ffdshow does not help enabling the ATI hardware edge enhancement

So... is there any solution?

cya

73ChargerFan · 7th November 2009, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury_22

Agree but breaking one thing to "solve" another I don't think it's the way to go

Beliyaal didn't break anything a year ago - there was no hardware capable of bitstreaming dts-hd then. thpppt!

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amigenius Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8	Hi, How can i get ATIs Edge enhancement to work in MPC? I tried it with MPC - Video decoder in DXVA Mode and with coreavc in Software mode. Tried all Renderes (custom evr, standard evr, vmr9, vmr7 and overlay) It just doesn't work. But if i play the same Blu-Ray in PowerDVD 7/8 ATIs Edge enhancement works. Relevant Systemcomponents: mpc build 1.3.1290.0 (32 bit) catalyst 9.10 ATI 4870 Vista 64 Bit cya Last edited by amigenius; 7th November 2009 at 14:27.

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korsan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Netherlands Posts: 5	I have placed all subtitles (srt) in a seperate folder (subtitles). How can I configure mpc to read the subtitles from there? Thanks.

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Keiyakusha 契約者 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,576	MPC-HC should do that by default. Check if your subs are named correctly...

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Polcius Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 102	What's better to watch mkv's: - Haali Splitter or - MPC-HC with default settings and decoders?

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korsan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Netherlands Posts: 5	Thanks Keiyakusha it worked!

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test12314124 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 4	What is the latest status on ATI cards and DXVA? Still problems? Planning on buying HD4650 and using latest drivers.

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mark0077 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,106	Maybe you have to output in the nv12 colorspace which seems to be necessary for things like hardware deinterlacing unfortunately alone mpc can't output in this colorspace so u will need ffdshow perhaps to do this for you. Worth a shot trying it but maybe someone else will have a better solution

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hdboy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 130	I'm confused by the shader options. when I turn on pixel shaders, the "Toggle pixel shader" is unchecked; when I turn it off, it's checked, which seems backward. then there's also "Pixel shader disabled", which seems redundant and at any case mislabeled. It should be called "No pixel shader" since that's what happens when you select it. It's like you label power switch On and Off, you don't call it "Power turned on" "Power turned off". I know it's nit-picking but I think grammar correctness is next to godliness What are screen space pixel shaders vs regular pixel shaders? I can't tell what it does. Toggling it on and off still shows a check next to "screen space pixel shaders disabled" and has no visible effect on the screen.

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amigenius Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 8	Hi, enforcing nv12 via ffdshow does not help enabling the ATI hardware edge enhancement So... is there any solution? cya