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2bigkings · 2nd March 2007, 12:38

and it runs fine without any problems? :-)

thevoiceover · 3rd March 2007, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob0r

.... it does however makes powerdvd believe the mounted .iso has no AACS.

It doesn't play it though.... So how do you speculate they get these keys?

mrazzido · 4th March 2007, 16:23

i try to rip a Blu-Ray yet , :-) ripping in progress...

2bigkings · 4th March 2007, 16:54

it should work fine, new version support blu-ray region code removing :-)

mrazzido · 4th March 2007, 17:50

yeaj it workxx fine :-) great :-)

woodspire · 4th March 2007, 22:26

Have you tried to decrypt an iso file mounted with daemon tools ?

mrazzido · 4th March 2007, 22:46

yeah it does´nt work , anydvd says this movie is not aacs protected.

@ anydvd when you read here :-D

make a option where we can put manual the key inside.

i think some peoples copied the iso´s on hd , and have the keys from the key page.

me too i have 10movies on hd (crypted) and the keys , muslix tool work when i mount the cryped iso .

when we have the manual option in anydvd , anydvd can ripp these title´s then :-)

bob0r · 5th March 2007, 00:58

But there is still no way to aquire this key from the .iso right?
You MUST have a bluray (or hddvd) hardware player to get the key, right?

.... or?

ShadowFlare · 5th March 2007, 02:02

The reason it does not work is likely that AnyDVD HD is unable to get the volume ID from the iso image of the disc, since this is obtained through some communication with the drive. This information most likely does not exist in the iso image, since some authentication needs to be performed before the drive will give it out.

Hmm, if a full dump could somehow be made after authentication, could it be possible to have an image file that does contain the volume ID?

arnezami · 5th March 2007, 06:49

From what I understand about isos they do not contain the parts inside the Protected area (and currently probably also not the Burst Cutting Area). Those are the places the Volume ID is stored.

So: No. AnyDVD or our own program (which will use the Host Private Key) will not be able to retrieve the Volume ID. However if you already have retrieved the VUK from the origional this doesn't matter: a program (like BackupDVD) can still decrypt it. AnyDVD doesn't support purely VUK-based decrypting (yet) afaik.

This is slightly different from a real bit-by-bit copy of a disc. Here I'm not sure how much is actually copied. Certainly not the BCA. But if a Volume ID can be retrieved from a Rewritable disc (which is a nice experiment!

) then maybe we could re-encrypt the title key file and make sure it works in every player. But this is not certain.

Technically Daemon tools could add support for "fake Volume ID retrieval" which (for example) will always give a standard Volume ID (all zeros for example). Then when we create the iso we could also re-encrypt the Title Key file in the same way making it possible to play an encrypted iso. All highly speculative though.

enantiomer · 9th March 2007, 16:26

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.

b@nned · 9th March 2007, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by enantiomer

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.

that's interesting, i wonder if anydvd will fix this

guile · 10th March 2007, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by enantiomer

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.

I have the exact same drive and had (notice I said had?) the exact same problem. It is the enclosure, end of story. I just put the drive back in the machine...ZERO problems. Bite the bullet and put it back in.

g

HyperHacker · 10th March 2007, 05:51

Seems odd that one program works and one doesn't if it's a hardware problem...

guile · 10th March 2007, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperHacker

Seems odd that one program works and one doesn't if it's a hardware problem...

I agree but...we don't know how he was making his backupbluray backup. I am inclined to think he did not just use backupbluray and go straight from the disc (because that usually can take between 2 and 4 hours), but I don't know. When I use backupbluray, I copy all the contents of the encrypted disc to my hd, then point backupbluray to the folder. I have never had a problem this way, at least so far.

g

enantiomer · 10th March 2007, 07:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by guile

I agree but...we don't know how he was making his backupbluray backup. I am inclined to think he did not just use backupbluray and go straight from the disc (because that usually can take between 2 and 4 hours), but I don't know. When I use backupbluray, I copy all the contents of the encrypted disc to my hd, then point backupbluray to the folder. I have never had a problem this way, at least so far.

g

Thanks for the suggestion to move the drive onto an IDE channel. Unfortunately Blu-ray drives are still too expensive to dedicate to just one PC, so external enclosures are the only practical way to use them on multiple machines.

I've used both methods you describe above to make backups, and BackupBluray does not corrupt files either way. Of course, it's much faster to copy the contents first to the hard drive, then decrypt.

There is no problem with the external enclosure. Rather the evidence points to AnyDVDHD likely using USB2.0 isochronous transfer mode to speed up data transfers. This occurs at the expense of introducing errors during transfer. Asynchronous transfers (with retries when CRC checks fail) will guarantee error-free copying. Slysoft needs to look into this.

mrazzido · 29th March 2007, 17:53

hey! i ripped 3x times casino royal (bluray) with anydvd , the main movie file is after ripping
34.293.073.920 bytes the movie doenst played in POWERDVD / WINDVD Crashed

then i tried the java tool

(34.293.110.784 Bytes) only some bytes different.!!

the movie works great with windvd / powerdvd!

i think anydvd has a problem!

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woodspire Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 20	blu-ray decryption Have you tried to decrypt an iso file mounted with daemon tools ?

5th March 2007, 06:49	#70 \| Link
arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	From what I understand about isos they do not contain the parts inside the Protected area (and currently probably also not the Burst Cutting Area). Those are the places the Volume ID is stored. So: No. AnyDVD or our own program (which will use the Host Private Key) will not be able to retrieve the Volume ID. However if you already have retrieved the VUK from the origional this doesn't matter: a program (like BackupDVD) can still decrypt it. AnyDVD doesn't support purely VUK-based decrypting (yet) afaik. This is slightly different from a real bit-by-bit copy of a disc. Here I'm not sure how much is actually copied. Certainly not the BCA. But if a Volume ID can be retrieved from a Rewritable disc (which is a nice experiment! ) then maybe we could re-encrypt the title key file and make sure it works in every player. But this is not certain. Technically Daemon tools could add support for "fake Volume ID retrieval" which (for example) will always give a standard Volume ID (all zeros for example). Then when we create the iso we could also re-encrypt the Title Key file in the same way making it possible to play an encrypted iso. All highly speculative though. Last edited by arnezami; 5th March 2007 at 06:55.

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enantiomer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 35	Blu-ray file corruption! So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior). I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray. I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.

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HyperHacker Resident DRM Hater Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: International waters Posts: 242	Seems odd that one program works and one doesn't if it's a hardware problem... __________________ Because Moogles pwn.

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2nd March 2007, 12:38	#61 \| Link
2bigkings Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 117	and it runs fine without any problems? :-)

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	i try to rip a Blu-Ray yet , :-) ripping in progress...

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2bigkings Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 117	it should work fine, new version support blu-ray region code removing :-)

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	yeaj it workxx fine :-) great :-)

4th March 2007, 22:46	#67 \| Link
mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	yeah it does´nt work , anydvd says this movie is not aacs protected. @ anydvd when you read here :-D make a option where we can put manual the key inside. i think some peoples copied the iso´s on hd , and have the keys from the key page. me too i have 10movies on hd (crypted) and the keys , muslix tool work when i mount the cryped iso . when we have the manual option in anydvd , anydvd can ripp these title´s then :-)

5th March 2007, 00:58	#68 \| Link
bob0r Pain and suffering Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,337	But there is still no way to aquire this key from the .iso right? You MUST have a bluray (or hddvd) hardware player to get the key, right? .... or?

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ShadowFlare Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11	The reason it does not work is likely that AnyDVD HD is unable to get the volume ID from the iso image of the disc, since this is obtained through some communication with the drive. This information most likely does not exist in the iso image, since some authentication needs to be performed before the drive will give it out. Hmm, if a full dump could somehow be made after authentication, could it be possible to have an image file that does contain the volume ID?

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	hey! i ripped 3x times casino royal (bluray) with anydvd , the main movie file is after ripping 34.293.073.920 bytes the movie doenst played in POWERDVD / WINDVD Crashed then i tried the java tool (34.293.110.784 Bytes) only some bytes different.!! the movie works great with windvd / powerdvd! i think anydvd has a problem!