Media Player Classic supports Matroska v2, *.mp4, *.mov, and MPEG-4 Timed Text - Page 21

chros · 31st January 2006, 12:24

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Originally Posted by clsid

Apple trailers now work ok with the internal MP4 splitter

Same here, too, thanks

Wedgedkc · 31st January 2006, 13:55

I have a couple of avi files that crash the player when using the vmr9 (renderless) renderer but they work with the system default renderer. I have attached the log file from dr watson if thats of any help.

Egh · 31st January 2006, 15:29

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Originally Posted by celtic_druid

Hey, at least I fixed it so that it runs on XP. There was a problem with the autogenerated manifest file. win2k didn't case since it didn't use it. I actually tested it on an XP machine, classic look though, no fancy theme crap.

So a correction. Celtic cares about XP, but not themes. Still if I knew what the problem was, I would fix it.

Well I never had problems with running your builds on XP (I used your iirc August build for couple of months). Apart from classic theme (and even putting xml manifest in the folder with mpc didn't help).

celtic_druid · 31st January 2006, 15:44

I tested the default XP theme and it ran fine here.

Think it was the 2005.11.27 build that wouldn't run under XP.

Liisachan · 2nd February 2006, 08:48

New build by celtic_druid.
It has a new (?) checkbox called "VMR9 mixer mode" and i've not yet figured out what it does...

mplayerc2006.02.02.2kxp.7z
mplayerc2006.02.02.2kxp.7z

celtic_druid · 2nd February 2006, 09:44

From the tooltip/rc file.

"Puts VMR9 (renderless) into mixer mode, this means most of the controls on its property page will work and it will use a separate worker thread to renderer frames."

Odd, I get the avi splitter tooltip for Haali's renderer.

Elias · 2nd February 2006, 13:33

Gabest sent me his latest build yesterday, and I tried it with mov files containing AAC/AVC. It worked great! How does Celtic's latest build work with mov files containing AAC/AVC? (I don't have time to try it). Excuse me if it has already been answered... I don't have time to follow this thread that much either as I used to

Elias · 2nd February 2006, 13:39

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Originally Posted by bond

he should simply remove the mov support. after all his splitter is a mp4 splitter and not a mov one

people should use mp4. mov should be banned to quicktime only

I perfectly agree!

SeeMoreDigital · 2nd February 2006, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Elias

Gabest sent me his latest build yesterday, and I tried it with mov files containing AAC/AVC. It worked great! How does Celtic's latest build work with mov files containing AAC/AVC? (I don't have time to try it). Excuse me if it has already been answered... I don't have time to follow this thread that much either as I used to

Just tested Celtic Druid's most recent build with MOV's containing 2Ch and 6Ch AAC audio and it seems to be working okay

bond · 2nd February 2006, 19:29

yeah the splitter is now called "mp4/mov splitter", as thats what it is

SeeMoreDigital · 2nd February 2006, 19:58

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Originally Posted by bond

yeah the splitter is now called "mp4/mov splitter", as thats what it is

Yeah... I notice this too!

Personally I would have liked to have seen separate "MP4" and "MOV" selectivity.... I don't like the thought of seeing "glorious" MP4 lumped together with "crappy old" MOV

Cheers

Stebs · 2nd February 2006, 21:31

Awesome!

With the latest Option "VMR9 mixer mode", (hardware)deinterlacing and the other image enhancing stuff from the Nvidia Mpeg2 Decoder now finally work in the VMR9 (renderless) mode!
Without "VMR9 mixer mode", the Nvidia Decoder says all is ok and that it is working in the DirectX VA modus A, but deinterlacing simply doesnt work. Now with "VMR9 mixer mode" it finally works as expected

VMR9 (windowed mode) always worked but, as you know, it lacks subtitles and Shaders.

And all my HD MOV Trailers from Apple Site now work too with internal splitter!

Thankyou Gabest!

PS. Since newest GPUs (Geforce 6-7; Ati R1xxx) do (or shortly will) support AVC accelleration in Hardware per DirectX VA -and given complexity of HD AVC files, this is much needed- what about acceleration support with MPC + ffdshow?, I guess it's ffdshow that needs to be adapted, right?
Anybody knows this is planned for future?

SeeMoreDigital · 2nd February 2006, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Stebs

PS. Since newest GPUs (Geforce 6-7; Ati R1xxx) do (or shortly will) support AVC accelleration in Hardware per DirectX VA -and given complexity of HD AVC files, this is much needed- what about acceleration support with MPC + ffdshow?, I guess it's ffdshow that needs to be adapted, right?
Anybody knows this is planned for future?

Have you tried the CoreAVC direct-show decoder filter?

chros · 3rd February 2006, 00:56

I have found a trailer which Haali's splitter doesn't want to open, but MPC does !!!

Who would think that ?

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_se...ight_watch/hd/
night_watch-tlra_h480p.mov

chros · 3rd February 2006, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stebs

Awesome!

With the latest Option "VMR9 mixer mode", (hardware)deinterlacing and the other image enhancing stuff from the Nvidia Mpeg2 Decoder now finally work in the VMR9 (renderless) mode!
Without "VMR9 mixer mode", the Nvidia Decoder says all is ok and that it is working in the DirectX VA modus A, but deinterlacing simply doesnt work. Now with "VMR9 mixer mode" it finally works as expected

VMR9 (windowed mode) always worked but, as you know, it lacks subtitles and Shaders.

Are you talking about playing DVD-s / VOB files ?
nVidia Purevideo decoder is needed for this ?

Thanks

Stebs · 3rd February 2006, 19:19

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Originally Posted by SeeMoreDigital

Have you tried the CoreAVC direct-show decoder filter?

No, not yet.
Until now I thought it was (just) some new (still alpha/beta) AVC decoder that was reported to be even faster than ffdshow. Does it really support hardware decoding? - I think i have to do some googling

Stebs · 3rd February 2006, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by chros

Are you talking about playing DVD-s / VOB files ?
nVidia Purevideo decoder is needed for this ?

Thanks

All mpeg2 Files, normal Vobs (DVD) but DVD-s Streams too, also .tp files (Transport Streams).
The Nvidia Purevideo decoder is definately not needed for watching those files, intergrated mpeg2 of MPC works well, BUT, if you want those extra Viedo Features of Geforce6+ Class GPUs (hardware acceleration, deinterlacing etc: http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html ), you need some Mpeg2 decoder that supports those features (through DirectX VA).
That can be the Nvidia Purevideo decoder but afaik also new versions of PowerDVD and WinDVD support it. Ati does also support similar features through Directx VA (and those even work then with the Nvidia Purevideo decoder).

I have some HD Mpeg2 files that use 100% CPU (XP3200+) with MPC mpeg2 decoder. With Nvidia Purevideo decoder, I have 40% CPU and better image quality.

This is nice-to-have for mpeg2, but for AVC, acceleration is going to be really important.

clsid · 4th February 2006, 00:07

Anyone else having troubles with embedded subtitles in MP4? Timedtext subs work for me, but VSFilter doesn't get loaded for vobsubs. The same files work ok with Haali's splitter.

videomixer9 · 4th February 2006, 14:31

purevideo should be boycotted just because it's a total ripoff to advertise cards with features and then you can only use this wondertool if you pay another 10-20 bucks on it and only with one decoder or others that license the tech for cash, not talking about it only working on one single OS.

ATI and NVIDIA are both big assholes, no open usable technology, only totally closed properietary stuff. It's sad ppl won't boycott both, but prolly it's more important to get the new games and stuff running no matter if the tech is total properietary. If there'd only be one good chip designer that'd do all this openly and have better performance than both of those evil companies, they could close their lousy companies.

bond · 4th February 2006, 14:51

there is no open standard for hardware acceleration of h.264 comparable to dxva for mpeg-2 (maybe because m$ didnt want to support h.264?)
therefore the card manufacturers are forced to develop something on their own (which doesnt mean that it wouldnt have been possible that they join forces and develop something together instead of two different systems)

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bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	yeah the splitter is now called "mp4/mov splitter", as thats what it is __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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videomixer9 ffdshow fan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 580	purevideo should be boycotted just because it's a total ripoff to advertise cards with features and then you can only use this wondertool if you pay another 10-20 bucks on it and only with one decoder or others that license the tech for cash, not talking about it only working on one single OS. ATI and NVIDIA are both big assholes, no open usable technology, only totally closed properietary stuff. It's sad ppl won't boycott both, but prolly it's more important to get the new games and stuff running no matter if the tech is total properietary. If there'd only be one good chip designer that'd do all this openly and have better performance than both of those evil companies, they could close their lousy companies. Last edited by videomixer9; 4th February 2006 at 14:34.

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bond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9,770	there is no open standard for hardware acceleration of h.264 comparable to dxva for mpeg-2 (maybe because m$ didnt want to support h.264?) therefore the card manufacturers are forced to develop something on their own (which doesnt mean that it wouldnt have been possible that they join forces and develop something together instead of two different systems) __________________ Between the weak and the strong one it is the freedom which oppresses and the law that liberates (Jean Jacques Rousseau) I know, that I know nothing (Socrates) MPEG-4 ASP FAQ \| AVC/H.264 FAQ \| AAC FAQ \| MP4 FAQ \| MP4Menu stores DVD Menus in MP4 (guide) Ogg Theora \| Ogg Vorbis use WM9 today and get Micro$oft controlling the A/V market tomorrow for free

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celtic_druid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,171	I tested the default XP theme and it ran fine here. Think it was the 2005.11.27 build that wouldn't run under XP.

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Liisachan 李姗倩 Lǐ Shān Qiàn Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,340	New build by celtic_druid. It has a new (?) checkbox called "VMR9 mixer mode" and i've not yet figured out what it does... mplayerc2006.02.02.2kxp.7z mplayerc2006.02.02.2kxp.7z

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celtic_druid Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,171	From the tooltip/rc file. "Puts VMR9 (renderless) into mixer mode, this means most of the controls on its property page will work and it will use a separate worker thread to renderer frames." Odd, I get the avi splitter tooltip for Haali's renderer.

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Stebs Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 57	Awesome! With the latest Option "VMR9 mixer mode", (hardware)deinterlacing and the other image enhancing stuff from the Nvidia Mpeg2 Decoder now finally work in the VMR9 (renderless) mode! Without "VMR9 mixer mode", the Nvidia Decoder says all is ok and that it is working in the DirectX VA modus A, but deinterlacing simply doesnt work. Now with "VMR9 mixer mode" it finally works as expected VMR9 (windowed mode) always worked but, as you know, it lacks subtitles and Shaders. And all my HD MOV Trailers from Apple Site now work too with internal splitter! Thankyou Gabest! PS. Since newest GPUs (Geforce 6-7; Ati R1xxx) do (or shortly will) support AVC accelleration in Hardware per DirectX VA -and given complexity of HD AVC files, this is much needed- what about acceleration support with MPC + ffdshow?, I guess it's ffdshow that needs to be adapted, right? Anybody knows this is planned for future?

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chros Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,323	I have found a trailer which Haali's splitter doesn't want to open, but MPC does !!! Who would think that ? http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_se...ight_watch/hd/ night_watch-tlra_h480p.mov

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clsid ***** Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,647	Anyone else having troubles with embedded subtitles in MP4? Timedtext subs work for me, but VSFilter doesn't get loaded for vobsubs. The same files work ok with Haali's splitter.