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Old 12th October 2015, 07:58   #33481  |  Link
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Those of you with crash problems:

Here are 2 XySubFilter test builds:

1) Build 709: Same as the older 705 build, just with my position changes for v0.89.8 added:

http://madshi.net/XySubFilter709.7z

2) Build 741: Same as the latest 744 build, but *without* my position changes for v0.89.8:

http://madshi.net/XySubFilter741.zip

Please test both builds with v0.89.8. Probably one of these will have the crashes and one not. Which is which?

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Yes; older one is b705.

They are quite random and unpredictable. E.g. there is a file which crashed every time almost immediately after opening at first, but since then I can't get a single crash or sub misplacement on it - very strange. I tried several mkv with ass (both 16:9 and 4:3) and one avi with srt, both in fullscreen and touch from inside window. Everything crashes at first, but after several times with one file (restarting player even if not crashed) it seems that crashes are gone or less frequent. But the random subtitle size/position changes can still reappear on them (not leading to crash).

Yes, atm it seems no crashes and no bad size/positioning in this combination. Will check more thoroughly a bit later.
The random size/position changes are not reproducable at all? It's not always the same video file / playback position where it occurs, but totally random? And does this problem occur only when using the new XySubFilter build? Does it occur when using an old madVR build (e.g. v0.89.6) with the new XySubFilter build?

Can you also please test this random size/position changes with the 2 builds linked at the top of this post?

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I believe I have the same problem as XMonarchyY. Windows 8.1 GTX980 358.50 (also occurred in 355 branch). MPC-BE 1.4.5 MadVR 89.4

Not sure if baii was describing the same problem but I also didn't have this issue in 88.16 with D3D11 path. Stutter is easily reproducible by pausing and resuming at ~1 second intervals or stepping frame by frame (ctrl+right). The render and present queues are 'empty' following a pause resume cycle but the D3D11 path (present every vsync) stutters i.e. plays back a previous frame before advancing and the debug OSD increments the presentation glitch count accordingly. D3D9 new path seemingly unaffected
Referencing other users which have reported something several pages ago doesn't really help me much, because I don't feel like spending a lot of time searching for the posts you might have meant (or not). If you want to reference other users, please quote them, or at least post a link to their posts, so that I know what you're talking about.

Anyway, your D3D9 and D3D11 screenshots both show an empty render queue. But the D3D9 OSD shows only dropped frames while the D3D11 screenshot shows both dropped frames and presentation glitches. So I'm not fully sure how to interpret these screenshots and your report.

If you have a problem with D3D11 mode, with queues not filling after unpausing, then please create a debug log for that situation. Thanks.
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Old 12th October 2015, 08:30   #33482  |  Link
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Just bought a new motherboard and Intel i5 6600 GPU. Going to use the integrated graphics from Intel (Intel 530).

Can someone help me out with the chain I need to setup in order to get everything setup correct? My main purpose is watchting full HD Blu-Ray content..

Are the following settings correct:

1. At the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel: Quantization Range on FULL RANGE (other possiblities are DEFAULT RANGE and LIMITED RANGE)

2. At the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel: IT Content: Enabled (other option is DISABLED )

3. At the Intel HD Graphics Control Panel: YCbCr: Disabled (other option is ENABLED)

4. In madVR properties: PC Levels 0-255

5. In LAV Video configuration: RGB Output levels: Untouched (as is) (other options are TV (16-235) or PC (0-255)

6. On my display device (Epson TW9200 projector): HDMI Range on EXTENDED (other option is NORMAL)
I'm also interested in these, although I don't have option for 1) , 3) , 6) .
2) IT Content : I disabled it, the small help says that for watching video content you should disable it, though I don't know what the preferred state is.
4) in MadVR, is the same: PC Levels 0-255
5) RGB Output levels in LAV, I use default (I think) : PC (0-255)

Though, some videos are still looked washed out, but you can use the Source Level trigger feature (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+I) of madVR to switch to double or triple expanded.

(I will have more questions about this when I'll gather up my thoughts )
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Old 12th October 2015, 09:23   #33483  |  Link
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I dont have any crashes, but would those crashes also appear when using the new official build cyberbeing put out?
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Old 12th October 2015, 09:25   #33484  |  Link
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Just tested the both xysubfilter builds:

my winner is - "Build 741: Same as the latest 744 build, but *without* my position changes for v0.89.8"

the other build gives me higher rendering stats 2.00-3.00 ms above my usual stats.
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Old 12th October 2015, 09:29   #33485  |  Link
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Just tested the both xysubfilter builds:

my winner is - "Build 741: Same as the latest 744 build, but *without* my position changes for v0.89.8"

the other build gives me higher rendering stats 2.00-3.00 ms above my usual stats.
You're supposed to test for crashes.
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You're supposed to test for crashes.
No crashes here with both builds
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Old 12th October 2015, 10:27   #33487  |  Link
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5. leave lavfilter at default.

1-4, 6. test it with a test file. sounds ok but no one knows for sure.
Thanks for your reply Huhn. What test file do I use and where can I download this?
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Old 12th October 2015, 10:32   #33488  |  Link
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Thanks for your reply Huhn. What test file do I use and where can I download this?
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-di...libration.html

2-apl clipping

i personally use 1-Black Clipping only to verify things.
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Old 12th October 2015, 11:06   #33489  |  Link
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Just tested the both xysubfilter builds:

my winner is - "Build 741: Same as the latest 744 build, but *without* my position changes for v0.89.8"

the other build gives me higher rendering stats 2.00-3.00 ms above my usual stats.
That's probably because moving subtitles into the black bars can cost a bit of extra rendering performance in some situations (one more processing step). There'll probably be an option to move subtitles (or not) in a future madVR build, which should then give you the same lower rendering times with the latest XySubFilter build, if you decide not to move the subtitles into the black bars. Anyway, for now I need feedback from those users who can reproduce crashes, before it makes sense to even look at render times at all.
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Old 12th October 2015, 11:07   #33490  |  Link
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operating system : Windows 10 x64 build 10240
system language : English
system up time : 1 day 13 hours
program up time : 15 seconds
processors : 8x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3635QM CPU @ 2.40GHz
physical memory : 4318/8079 MB (free/total)
free disk space : (C 267.09 GB
display mode : 1920x1080, 32 bit
process id : $bc
allocated memory : 400.26 MB
largest free block : 122845.83 GB
executable : mpc-hc64AMD.exe
current module : MADHCNET64.DLL
module date/time : 2015-07-19 22:53
version : 1.0.17.10
compiled with : Delphi XE7
madExcept version : 4.0.12
madVR version : 0.89.8
callstack crc : $bbb85766, $def5b678, $e2ce3e7c
exception number : 1
exception class : Exception
exception message : Zugriffsverletzung bei Adresse $7ff836225aeb in Modul 'ntdll.dll'. Schreiben von Adresse $24.

I get this very reproducibly. It's a crash upon exit (which doesn't really affect anything--playback is fine), but I have noticed that it now takes several seconds for mpchc to load up.
1. Open something that has subs. (external srt in this case)
2. Full screen it. (FSE)
3. Exit MPCHC. Crashes.
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Old 12th October 2015, 11:20   #33491  |  Link
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Half a crash report doesn't help, I'd need the full thing. Upload it somewhere, thanks. And does this only occur when using XySubFilter? If so, try the 2 test builds posted a couple posts above.
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Old 12th October 2015, 11:45   #33492  |  Link
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Madshi,

So far no crashing problem with xySubfilter. However, I noticed the ff:

1. Fonts are bigger
2. I think we still can place the subtitle i row lower. This would allow us to use the black bar totally and watch the movie without distraction
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Old 12th October 2015, 12:19   #33493  |  Link
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Hey Madshi, with 741 there is no flicker nor crashes with OD. 709 crashes with OD, but doesn't flicker. Tell me if you want me to test some more. Going back to old Beta2 705 "solves" the issue.

[edit] Official 3.1.0.744 build crashes with OD. No flicker.

[edit2] Random dithering also causes exact same crashes as OD. No dither and ED's work.

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Can you guys confirm that switching back to an old XySubFilter build "solves" the issue? Which older XySubFilter build are you using? How often do these crashes occur? Do they only occur with specific video files? Or with all video files? And quite important: When using madVR v0.89.6 with the new XySubFilter build, do the crashes occur or not?
Using madVR 0.89.2 (the one I was previously using) with the 744 XySubFilter build I don't get any crashes.

madVR 0.89.8 with your test builds gives this:

741 no crash, subs obviously inside the content box (not moved to black bars)
709 crash, with this bug report http://pastebin.com/b8ep8htk

It's worth noting that 709 crashes only when the rendering window size is enlarged. As long as there aren't "extra" black bars to render subs on, it works just fine.
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1. Fonts are bigger
2. I think we still can place the subtitle i row lower. This would allow us to use the black bar totally and watch the movie without distraction
You need to intervene on style settings to fix both.
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Old 12th October 2015, 13:20   #33496  |  Link
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Ok, YxP and ashlar42, I now rather think that it's probably not a bug in XySubFilter, but in madVR, although I'm not sure. Could you please go back to v0.89.8 and XySubFilter 744, and then please:

1) Create a debug log which captures the crash.
2) Upload your settings ("settings.bin" file in madVR folder, or "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\madshi\madVR\Settings").
3) Make a screenshot of the debug OSD from with exact window size setup in which the crash occurs, so that I can see which size your video had, which size the monitor, which scaling algos were used etc.

Thanks!
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Old 12th October 2015, 13:27   #33497  |  Link
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Will do right now.
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Old 12th October 2015, 13:34   #33498  |  Link
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http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-di...libration.html

2-apl clipping

i personally use 1-Black Clipping only to verify things.
which numbers/bars do I need to see?
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Old 12th October 2015, 13:39   #33499  |  Link
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Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ieryunkr0s...-bugreport.rar
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Here you go: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php...28829079096907
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