ffdshow tryouts project: Discussion & Development - Page 454

jruggle · 8th November 2009, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeperry

BTW, any idea who I could ask to see 32float DTS please? I tried to sign up on the ffmpeg user mailing list, but never received any confirmation email...I tried w/ 2 different email providers.

You could put in a feature request on the issue tracker.
http://roundup.ffmpeg.org/roundup/ffmpeg/

Brazil2 · 8th November 2009, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsid

The problem only seems to occur with EVR Custom Presenter.
It also only occurs when the output colorspace is NOT equal to YV12. If I force YV12 (uncheck all others), then it plays fine.

I don't know why this happens or how to solve it. But maybe anyone else knows. Maybe one of the MPC devs.

The funny thing is that it's working fine for me on an old PC using a very old version of ffdshow that I never bothered to update. It's playing fine with YUY2 and EVR custom output:

There is some kind of little 'hop' at the start but after that it's playing fine. Also the file is using variable frame rate mode, maybe that's the reason of the troubles ?

Code:

Frame rate mode                  : Variable
Frame rate                       : 29.212 fps
Minimum frame rate               : 7.442 fps
Maximum frame rate               : 31.120 fps

EDIT:
That's on XP 32 bits
Radeon 9800 Pro
ffdshow-20050303-sse (the very latest SSE build from Milan Cutka!

)
MPC-HC 1.2.1043 using the built-in splitter

albain · 8th November 2009, 17:05

Hi,

new FFDShow HD bitstream beta build

This new build adds the following feature : testing several subtypes if the official one fails. This should bring bitstream support to the xonar.

I didn't change the bitstream code yet

Damien

leeperry · 8th November 2009, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jruggle

You could put in a feature request on the issue tracker.
http://roundup.ffmpeg.org/roundup/ffmpeg/

I will

PS: hah, live.com/gmail.com/lavache.com appear to never get any confirmation from their bots..oh well, it's open source but closed group I guess

SamuriHL · 8th November 2009, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

Hi,

new FFDShow HD bitstream beta build

This new build adds the following feature : testing several subtypes if the official one fails. This should bring bitstream support to the xonar.

I didn't change the bitstream code yet

Damien

Well that's quite interesting. I can try that out in a bit.

liquidskin76 · 8th November 2009, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

Hi,

new FFDShow HD bitstream beta build

This new build adds the following feature : testing several subtypes if the official one fails. This should bring bitstream support to the xonar.

I didn't change the bitstream code yet

Damien

Cool, time to dig out my Xonar! Was started to get worried that i might not be able to bitstream with my GeForce 9300 HDMi audio!

When you say bitstream, are you hoping for DTS-HD as well?

Cheers

Sebastiii · 8th November 2009, 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

Hi,

new FFDShow HD bitstream beta build

This new build adds the following feature : testing several subtypes if the official one fails. This should bring bitstream support to the xonar.

I didn't change the bitstream code yet

Damien

Hi,

Could you explain what you use for bitstream

?
If i use MPC-HC ffdshow Audio don't start.
If i make GRF with graphstudio, i can play but no sound and no light comes on.
Did we use MPC Audio Wasapi Renderer (i think yes lol).

So this is the log and Screenshot of my Graphstudio :

And

Log Debugview release Beta29

Thanks for all

Seb.

Skinleech · 8th November 2009, 18:55

I will try it in a while also.

Thank you yet again!

Skinleech · 8th November 2009, 20:11

Ok, so using the latest ffdshow bitstream pack & MPC Audio renderer, I get no sound on anything except regular ac3 which is fine.

The files don't play at all and the debugview logs keep going as long as MPC is active.

Will pastebin the logs for each soon.

SamuriHL · 8th November 2009, 20:12

Same result I got with the last version.

albain · 8th November 2009, 20:47

For this one the goal is just to make the connection accepted by the audio driver for the xonar (not for 4xxx series yet).
There is a new "try mode" that will for bitstream formats try several media types. Maybe this will also make DTS-HD work

You won't get more sound that with sebastii tests but I just need the logs (debugview) to confirm or not the connection.

What's next : I have to analyze sebastii's last logs, and reproduce as much the bitstream, then the work will be finished on FFDShow's side.

Then the last part : the MPC audio renderer implementation, which must not be correct (buffer size, buffer feeding) otherwise you would get some sound.

Be patient, this takes a lot of time, and most of us have a job in parallel (besides I spent some time lately on Media Control)

SamuriHL · 8th November 2009, 21:04

No problem on my side, albain, with the patience thing. You've put a remarkable amount of time and effort into this and it's very appreciated! Take your time. I'm sure it'll come. I'm hoping my work schedule slows down after tomorrow so I can do more testing. It's been crazy the past couple weeks.

So, I fully get the real world stuff getting in the way concept. I hope others understand, as well.

albain · 8th November 2009, 21:08

Oh my....

@Sebastii : the audio renderer you got is buggy.

Please use this one

@Sebastii : can you also test a TrueHD stream with this audio renderer (the buffer has been resized)
MPC audio renderer with TrueHD buffer size

Thanks !

You should see the light again on your receiver

Skinleech · 8th November 2009, 21:23

Albain, I have no issue with being patient at all either, I'm very grateful for your time and effort and will continue to help in any way I can. I've seen it exactly as you describe - an attempt to connect several times. Here are the logs for you:

TrueHD: http://pastebin.com/f4f0f2692
DTS-HD: http://pastebin.com/f5a30e648
DDplus: http://pastebin.com/f2d1bb3f0
LPCM: http://pastebin.com/mf03c6f5
AC3: http://pastebin.com/f2995de44

Thank you as always.

albain · 8th November 2009, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinleech

Albain, I have no issue with being patient at all either, I'm very grateful for your time and effort and will continue to help in any way I can. I've seen it exactly as you describe - an attempt to connect several times. Here are the logs for you:

TrueHD: http://pastebin.com/f4f0f2692
DTS-HD: http://pastebin.com/f5a30e648
DDplus: http://pastebin.com/f2d1bb3f0
LPCM: http://pastebin.com/mf03c6f5
AC3: http://pastebin.com/f2995de44

Thank you as always.

Sorry, but the mpc audio renderer was a debug version that only wrote to a file, which explains the "Setfilename ok" trace in it.

This explains why you guys don't get any light and sound. Sorry for that

Please use the link in previous post

tetsuo55 · 8th November 2009, 21:36

May i suggest donations of cash or hardware to albain?
This would speedup this research a 100fold

the Onkyo TX-SR607 is about 400 euros and supports all the formats we are testing

Hdmi cable is about 10-20 euros

5xx0 card is about 120 euros
Xonar is about 130 euros

Skinleech · 8th November 2009, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

Sorry, but the mpc audio renderer was a debug version that only wrote to a file, which explains the "Setfilename ok" trace in it.

This explains why you guys don't get any light and sound. Sorry for that

Please use the link in previous post

No problem.

I will try shortly and post back the traces for you.

Skinleech · 8th November 2009, 22:38

TrueHD: http://pastebin.com/f773f1256 - Sound but in PCM, started to stutter about 70 seconds in.
DTS-HD HR: http://pastebin.com/f4dedbb2 - No Sound, file played fine
LPCM: http://pastebin.com/f7b18c985 - played in PCM
DDplus: http://pastebin.com/d6399a732 - played in PCM
AC3: http://pastebin.com/f6ecf0699 - played video, no audio. Likely a setup issue, as changiong from Asus Speakers to Asus Spdif device in Windows audio mixer gave the following:
AC3 2: http://pastebin.com/f4d374802 - played fine, DD showed up on avr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo55

May i suggest donations of cash or hardware to albain?
This would speedup this research a 100fold

If albain sets up a Paypal or similar I will happily send something over.

8th November 2009, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo55

May i suggest donations of cash or hardware to albain?
This would speedup this research a 100fold

the Onkyo TX-SR607 is about 400 euros and supports all the formats we are testing

Hdmi cable is about 10-20 euros

5xx0 card is about 120 euros
Xonar is about 130 euros

Unfortunately, even the top-of-the-line receivers from Onkyo (and Denon) suffer from HDMI implementation issues. You should take a look at AVSforum where countless HTPC users report issues with various combinations of GPU/IGP + receiver. Some work, some don't.

The only route, and this is what Intel, nVidia and ATI engineers are doing, is to purchase and test several different receivers.

In any case, the Denon 1610 (caveat from first paragraph still applies) could do the job and can be had for as low as 315 EUR. A quality HDMI cable can be purchased from Amazon for about 5 EUR.

albain · 8th November 2009, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetsuo55

May i suggest donations of cash or hardware to albain?
This would speedup this research a 100fold

the Onkyo TX-SR607 is about 400 euros and supports all the formats we are testing

Hdmi cable is about 10-20 euros

5xx0 card is about 120 euros
Xonar is about 130 euros

Thanks :-) but I already have an okyo 606, and I wait that AMD releases a passive 5xxx card. I hope that it will be released soon

@Skinleech : thanks, it is better with the new renderer, but your logs seem incomplete. Can you check ?

8th November 2009, 20:47	#9071 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	For this one the goal is just to make the connection accepted by the audio driver for the xonar (not for 4xxx series yet). There is a new "try mode" that will for bitstream formats try several media types. Maybe this will also make DTS-HD work You won't get more sound that with sebastii tests but I just need the logs (debugview) to confirm or not the connection. What's next : I have to analyze sebastii's last logs, and reproduce as much the bitstream, then the work will be finished on FFDShow's side. Then the last part : the MPC audio renderer implementation, which must not be correct (buffer size, buffer feeding) otherwise you would get some sound. Be patient, this takes a lot of time, and most of us have a job in parallel (besides I spent some time lately on Media Control) Last edited by albain; 8th November 2009 at 21:03.

8th November 2009, 21:08	#9073 \| Link
albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Oh my.... @Sebastii : the audio renderer you got is buggy. Please use this one @Sebastii : can you also test a TrueHD stream with this audio renderer (the buffer has been resized) MPC audio renderer with TrueHD buffer size Thanks ! You should see the light again on your receiver Last edited by albain; 8th November 2009 at 21:24.

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tetsuo55 MPC-HC Project Manager Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,317	May i suggest donations of cash or hardware to albain? This would speedup this research a 100fold the Onkyo TX-SR607 is about 400 euros and supports all the formats we are testing Hdmi cable is about 10-20 euros 5xx0 card is about 120 euros Xonar is about 130 euros __________________ MPC-HC, an open source project everyone can improve. Want to help? Test Nightly Builds, submit patches or bugs and chat on IRC

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albain Media Control author Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 1,014	Hi, new FFDShow HD bitstream beta build This new build adds the following feature : testing several subtypes if the official one fails. This should bring bitstream support to the xonar. I didn't change the bitstream code yet Damien

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Skinleech A.K.A Mangoat Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 203	I will try it in a while also. Thank you yet again!

8th November 2009, 20:11	#9069 \| Link
Skinleech A.K.A Mangoat Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 203	Ok, so using the latest ffdshow bitstream pack & MPC Audio renderer, I get no sound on anything except regular ac3 which is fine. The files don't play at all and the debugview logs keep going as long as MPC is active. Will pastebin the logs for each soon.

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	Same result I got with the last version.

8th November 2009, 21:04	#9072 \| Link
SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	No problem on my side, albain, with the patience thing. You've put a remarkable amount of time and effort into this and it's very appreciated! Take your time. I'm sure it'll come. I'm hoping my work schedule slows down after tomorrow so I can do more testing. It's been crazy the past couple weeks. So, I fully get the real world stuff getting in the way concept. I hope others understand, as well.

8th November 2009, 21:23	#9074 \| Link
Skinleech A.K.A Mangoat Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 203	Albain, I have no issue with being patient at all either, I'm very grateful for your time and effort and will continue to help in any way I can. I've seen it exactly as you describe - an attempt to connect several times. Here are the logs for you: TrueHD: http://pastebin.com/f4f0f2692 DTS-HD: http://pastebin.com/f5a30e648 DDplus: http://pastebin.com/f2d1bb3f0 LPCM: http://pastebin.com/mf03c6f5 AC3: http://pastebin.com/f2995de44 Thank you as always.