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BeHappy - AviSynth-based audio transcoding tool Audio encoding via AviSynth On2 VP7 is great in quality but it is unusable for long-term video backup puposes! Sincerely Yours, MCPD/MCTS Last edited by dimzon; 22nd March 2006 at 13:24. Reason: VP62 is now LGPL, so we need only VP7 decoder |
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dimzon is right.....
If there is no open sourced decoder avail then if I make backups of my home videos and want to watch them in 20+ years on the successor of the successor of Longhorn then who guarantees me that I can still play them?
Maybe everyone will be using Linux by then (hehe). With the decoder source there is at least a chance someone will be able to port the code. Whats On2 stand point on this? |
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In commercial aspect MPEG4-like licensing scheme is more sutable IMHO. On2Tech, please, inform Your Marketers and Managers. Proprietary decoder is deterrent for wide usage of Your really nice codec. And it's one of the reason to choose H264 family!
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We understand your concerns. All I can say is that we are not aware of any plans to open source the decoders or encoders for VP6 or 7 at present.
However, On2, have, as I am sure you are aware, made significant contributions to the open source community in the past and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that we will make further such contributions in the future. It seems to me your comments / concerns could equally be applied to, for example, RV10. Any codec in fact where the source code is not freely available. You are no doubt aware that VP6.2 is the new codec in Flash 8 and MacroMedia also have rights to use VP7 at a later date. Perhaps the huge distribution that this implies may alleviate some of your concerns. On2Tech |
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There is no guarantee for 20 years later anyway? Who guarantess that my CDs still will play, or even my DVDs? Who guarantees that I can still connect my USB devices to my computer in 20 years? Who guarantees that there are still compilers for C and C++ code in the future. Who guarantees that anyone will actually port this code to a new OS and/or architechture? I'm sorry, but I find this discussion a little bit academic and not serving any other purpose than poluting this thread now the question has been answered that it won't happen any time soon.
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Well, i don't agree with stephanV. I think the point dimzon is making is very important.
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imho the point is on2 doesnt want to make it opensource and also not openformat.
obviously they think they can make more money if the keep it closed (and i think they are right with such an opinion). and for them it also propably doesnt matter what in 10 or 20 years is, because at that point, if the company still exists, they will propably have released vp20 already and dont care about vp6/7 anymore nothing wrong with that. thats capitalism... does this also mean that its the best for the consumer? no. but than again i have been know as a supporter for open standards a long time already so to make it short this discussion leads to nothing imho
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